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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    when companies will truly be desperate universities will be pressured to switch from computer science to computer engineering.
    I trust the invisible hand of the market, even at the cost of a few brown peolle being blowm off airplanes (I fly airbus)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this. doomer posters don't realize how the world works

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was just pondering my concentration for the rest of my degree. Systems it is then.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Nah the market will make it right even though we are currently seeing that almost all companies are trying to push their duties on somebody else

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Boomers/gen x are gonna start mass retiring in upcoming decade anon who pioneered the computer industry . Millennials and gen z are sitting on shoulders of giants who once they leave everything will start collapsing. For frick sakes Lockheed Martin had to force guys back from retirement to make stinger missiles from fricking 80s. We are abstracting so much that no one knows how it works deep down . Your avg college vlsss nowadays might teach you JavaScript , Python and Java plus some higher level languages if lucky but not into depth required to understand it fully .

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Who cares honestly. Let it crash down, it'll get rebuilt in a new fashion by people that know how to build things.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This. It's not like computers are that great anyway. Fun hobby sure, but if they go away we'll be fine.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It's not like computers are that great anyway. Fun hobby sure, but if they go away we'll be fine.
            Imagine writting this unironically, million would die (yes millions of white people) if computers suddenly stopped working

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I challenge you to take a hard paper from 50 years ago in your field and truly understand it quickly.
        Now multiply this for how many technologies and components a stinger launch system has and maybe you'll realize bootstrapping old bleeding edge technology is insane

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          sounds like boomerware is pure shit then and deserves to be forgotten.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            sounds like the unforseen emergency of the ukraine war has caused a peculiar and unprecedented situation where semi-obsolete technology on the verge of retirement had to be bootstrapped again causing a slew of completely understandable issues that /misc/cels just couldn't help but use to hate on women and minorities

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I guess, sure. doesn't mean it isn't shit.
            Most the legacy shit my dad worked on before he retired was unmothballing full moron engines like the F-1 for the airforce even though SSME outclasses for all practical and modern uses. but hey, it is what it is.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >just couldn't help but use to hate on women and minorities

            As if you'd need to jump through hoops to do just that. Its easier after you've been married for a few years and pay taxes.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This is only going to cause more troons to take the Rust hammer to everything they see.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is how we got there in the first place and this is how we'll get back there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this. doomer posters don't realize how the world works

      first two posts by absolute NEETs, never change, IQfyentoomen

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this. doomer posters don't realize how the world works

      >just trust the system goyim, nature will heal itself heeheehee

      peak npc mentality. hey buddy, did those riveting jobs ever comeback? does any trade school teach it? how about animation drafting? no? dont worry you can just use chat gpt to describe it for you and then hire 10 pajeets and hopes one of them knows how.

      only true among MERICANS
      in China there are those who learn the fundamentals
      competency crisis only impacts countries lowering themselves to the lowest common denominator

      china, israel, and russia. 2 out of 3 being designated 'enemies'. realistically it should be all 3 but oey gevalt, not until the boomers die from old age. I love how boomers outsourced all our tech to china and then gave israel all our tax money so they could grown their own industries.

      Not at all true. There were always people passionate about things and it has only been that group of people who ever did anything really low-level/"hard".
      If anything, the exposure of the new generations to technology will only increase the amount of "low-level" people.

      you want to know why art gays cry about ai so much? because they never learned the basics and cant do 'art' without computer tools. And any art done with computer tools can ultimately be done better by a computer using computer tools.

      Ultimately, the inability to comprehend the basics means future advancement is hard locked into existing techtrees with existing technology. Your videogames arent getting better because theres nobody with the comprehension to make them better. You get triple a goyslop and indy pixel shit and nothing else because people are just haphazardly building ontop of existing tools and concepts but not innovating anything (except the monetization side of the product). This isnt a big deal with manchild toys, it is a big deal when we need new bridges.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia
        genuinely curious anon, could you elaborate? I understand China and Israel: the west outsourced most critical production to China (and the gay island which China could easily take), and we shower Israel in our money
        What about Russia though?

        >artgays seethe because they lack basics
        very true

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >(I fly airbus)
      Aren't those made by French Black folk?? Not defending Böing, but it's not the like French are world-class engineers, and French construction labor is somewhere between Italian and British quality.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I dunno they used to be pretty good when it come to nuclear energy, trains and boats.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      very true. im experiencing it now. boomers are retiring left and right.

      t. mainframe systems programmer zoomer

      what you're asking is a re-ndustrialization base in america as well as high cost investment from greedy VCs. not gonna happen Black person.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    only true among MERICANS
    in China there are those who learn the fundamentals
    competency crisis only impacts countries lowering themselves to the lowest common denominator

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >overlook basics so they never learn all about system
    Which system?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The systems that are being abstracted away in the realm of tech is the low-level operation of hardware. For instance, most computer users and even many programmers do not have a deep understanding of how a CPU processes machine code, how a motherboard manages data flow between different hardware components, or how an operating system manages memory at the hardware level. This knowledge is becoming less common as higher-level programming languages and user-friendly operating systems abstract these details away, allowing users to perform complex tasks without needing to understand the underlying hardware processes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Most programmers don't need to familiarize themselves with all that PC specific shit. 99% of people who write software for PC's don't need to worry about low level electronics, and 99% of the people who do understand electronics aren't writing software for PC's

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i guess you weren't talking about PC's specifically, but still that concepts of how it works across all computers is pretty easy compared to doing anything in practice. They still put it in college courses so there isn't a point to be made about it unless you want everyone to know that linux uses the old BIOS memory map data structure for some reason

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Any real world system ultimately.
      >https://www.conradbastable.com/essays/elite-underproduction-why-we-cant-solve-hard-problems-anymore
      But systems of finance and effective communication (ie spin) will be just fine or even better.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Any real world system ultimately.

        Anyone who worked with legacy systems knows a world would be better off without the legacy systems. Sometimes we really should build new systems. Zoomers will have to figure it out.

        The fact that old systems need so much maintenance and/or obscure knowledge that's almost inapplicable in any other area is a clear sign old systems are just shit.

        Having worked with FIX and GDS, 3 and 5 years respectively, it's insane world keeps going 'round.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Information_eXchange
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_distribution_system

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Fricking kek

          im a zoomer and i went into electrical engineering exactly for this reason
          i think there will be a time of reckoning when we realize that we dont have enough hardware people because all young technically-minded folks went to software and the boomers and gen Xers with all the industry knowledge died off

          Anon I came to this realization recent and realized my CS degree is a total meme. I won't go to college for electrical engineering because I can't afford it. Is it possible to self-study the entire degree?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            electrical engineering is like the math in that you really benefit from a structured learning approach with accountability where you're forced to do problem sets and study for exams. deeply studying electrical engineering outside a structured learning framework requires a crazy amount of willpower and interest, like math.
            it's not easy to self-study like programming. unlike programming, the resources that are available are more niche and obtuse and less hand-holdy in my experience. you either have to already have knowledge of the material to make use of them or have an expert (like an instructor) walking you through them.

            maybe you could find some sort of online structured course thing im not sure. i think it would be more realistic to pivot towards more low-level programming domains like embedded, operating systems, databases, hpc, gpgpu or graphics, etc.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks anon.
            Ya know what would be a good use for AI? Helping high IQ people learn these things an order of magnitude faster. But nooooooo that can't happen because of le heckin' representayshun. Making it GAY is a bigger priority

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not at all true. There were always people passionate about things and it has only been that group of people who ever did anything really low-level/"hard".
    If anything, the exposure of the new generations to technology will only increase the amount of "low-level" people.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >If anything, the exposure of the new generations to technology will only increase the amount of "low-level" people.

      but not the percentage.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > percentage is constant
        yeah, that's my point, probably always has and probably will be, so why are people crying for another made up crisis?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >yeah, that's my point, probably always has and probably will be, so why are people crying for another made up crisis?
          Beats me. It looks like opportunity.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          doomers are fricking doomers no matter what generation. they're always wrong, always.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is something of a competency crisis but it's coming from the top not because of any generational skill gap (although boomers are notoriously malicious when it comes to training their replacements). There is no shortage of people who understand the foundations of computers and their never has been (even the early 00s thing where TI engineers allegedly forgot that transmission lines were a thing was completely blown out of proportion). Many people see that their shitty education left them without this knowledge and project that onto everyone else.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nani are transmission lines

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmission_line
        Everything you pump AC current through will become a transmission line whether you want it to or not, causing electromagnetic interference. This is non-negligible in chip design. You need to account for it with careful coupling. Allegedly in the early 00s TI hired a round of EE grads that didn't know this and that's why they almost went out of business for selling shit chips. However that's not what happened 1) because fricking obviously they took a physics 2 class and 2) it had more to do with low-quality materials.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Taking a physics class and being aware of practical implications of stuff they told you there is not at all the same thing

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You have a low IQ.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're under a false impression that you don't because you've never tried to apply something you've been taught in class in real practice

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            wrong

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Keep coping

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Serious question: what do you think people with physics degrees do?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Quantitative Analysis for stock trading companies

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're under a false impression that you don't because you've never tried to apply something you've been taught in class in real practice

            Keep coping

            >b-but everyone is dumber than me mom said so
            Don't ever change, IQfy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            We wouldn't be having this conversation if you've tried

            Serious question: what do you think people with physics degrees do?

            What do (You) think they do? Degree doesn't magically make you competent in all things under the sun, it's just a foundation that you build upon when you land a specific job and get hands-on experience that fills the gaps and makes your otherwise broad but shallow knowledge to click in place. Just because you can recite Lenz's law doesn't mean you can also automatically figure out that you need to account for emf when doing a seemingly unrelated task of placing discrete components in a computer program without someone pointing that out to you first.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, yes, but on the other hand my physics class literally talked about having to design hardware around the fact that there's a constant background radio hum at the frequency of power transmission lines because, yes, a giant cable a mile long with AC running through it is, in fact, basically just an antenna.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    only true in crapitalism.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      also note that crapitalism isn't true capitalism, but true capitalism is like true communism, it was never really tried.

      • 1 month ago
        sage

        true capitalism (anarcho capitalism) has been tried and it was glorious. look up cospaia.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ignore my name i forgot that it was saved

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    based until
    >no one is teaching hecking fortran!
    midwit take

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Boomers grew with technology as it was developing, things were simpler back then. Nowadays you are dealing with too much abstraction (which is both bad and good), and there's too many things for one single person to learn

    [...]

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      False and moronic
      You're dumb and you're giving yourself too hard a challenge on top of that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Convincing arguments, hadn't though about that

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    APL Chads
    Our time is coming

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI will decode the abstraction

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Europe and East Asia still produce a shitload of real engineers (french, german, taiwanese and korean schools no doubt have better engineering schools overall than the US). The US will just do like it always did: import them.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    now that i think about it, i think TPTB are purposely doing this so they can finally enslave the world since it might be a burden for us all to have this level of technology. the super israelites will continue to secretly have advanced computers while the rest of the world goes into a crisis

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not true at all, long before this is an issue big consultancy firms will convince businesses with legacy shit to replace it with some garbage wrote in react and java.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the FORTRAN bit is moronic
    any decent programmer can pick up programming language in a few days
    if we needed to reimplement BLAS or whatever in rust or whatever it would be done easily
    they still taught how to make binary adders and about microcode and assembly when I studied
    what you should be worried about is the trades, very little of the knowledge for skills like carpentry or plumbing is written down, if the chains of apprentices are broken and we don't have robots doing it (or they stop working) we have to figure it out from scratch

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >americans turning into a consumer country since israelites took it over
    not even a bad thing, it's very funny

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why are we talking about millennials? They're now in their 30s and 40s.

    Go watch one of those vids about the AMD labs - most of those dudes working on the day-to-day design of new processors are millennials.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is a problem that is going to solve it self if we let it.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mate, in the upcoming competency crisis. Computers are going to the least of your worry.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Gonna be fun watching bridges collapse.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This
      You should see all the morons in healthcare

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      >oh no Instagram is slow because CS majors are incompetent
      is less of a concern when pilots are incompetent too and an airliner crashes once a month.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's why everything is slowly being migrated to RUST or JavaScript

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Loss of knowledge due to age is a real phenomenon, but it would take significantly longer time than just all boomers and xrs to die out, before it would become somehow unrecoverable.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't everyone learn c and assembly in univeristy? My univeristy even made us make git by ourselves. The much bigger competency crisis will be in the "hard, but the pay is not great" fields. Computer science has enough draw that we can still retain standards, but what about civil engineering? Civil engineering is more important to society than creating some shitty webapp, but the only people that I knew did it only because they were too moronic for other forms of engineering and my (supposedly elite) univeristy was happy to accept them.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We don't need to think about the low levels anymore, AI will do that for us.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >We don't need to think about the [Insert name], [Insert tool name] will do that for us
      glad that homosexuals like you are getting fired all over the industry right now and can't get employed anymore.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        cope, I work management and I've fired many monkes like you who think they're irreplaceable.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >cope, I [insert his power fantasy]
          ywnbaw.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Cope more pajeet.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            kek! it's always projection with your kind, rajesh. go find a train station and do a selfie.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >n-no u!
            Wow good one.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All of this could have been avoided if you had just learned how to install Arch manually.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >in the future, there will be no economic incentives to maintain basic systems
    kek I mean in a way yes because we'll all be fricking dead

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Incompetency crisis
    Oh, you mean the desperate lack of unskilled individuals?
    Stopped reading there btw this thread sucks and no one here can read worth a damn

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The uni I went to started with logic gates. Bootcampers won't know anything lower level than C++, but that's because they don't have ambitions to go lower. Otherwise they would have gotten a CS degree.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bootcampers can take CS50 too

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    im a zoomer and i went into electrical engineering exactly for this reason
    i think there will be a time of reckoning when we realize that we dont have enough hardware people because all young technically-minded folks went to software and the boomers and gen Xers with all the industry knowledge died off

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its even worse since its too costly to upgrade things. there are critical societal services like flooding turbines and nuclear defense systesm still runinning on analogue switches, cobol, tape machines from the 60s. 40k techpriests rubbing genderaffirming oils on things in hopes it makes machines happy will be a reality soon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >40k techpriests rubbing genderaffirming oils on things in hopes it makes machines happy will be a reality soon.
      can't wait

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pretty sure everyone senior with a job is appalled at the kind of grammar and wording you see in emails from any new hire under 22 years old, at least in England.

    You will literally get emails like "hey, the last client that, spoke to us they want meeting redone, appointment on a different day."

    I'm sure most senior management have given up and accepted it's all gone to shit and are just looking to retire asap.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm sure most senior management have given up and accepted it's all gone to shit and are just looking to retire asap.

      That's the fricking worst
      >"Thank God I'll be dead by then, haha!"
      You have fricking kids and grandkids who will be alive boomer

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's okay to get to a point of using tools without knowing how they work. Nobody knows how cars work anymore but everyone's still driving. It's the consequences of a woman led workforce.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    doomer posting.
    Absolute worst case scenario is like this.
    But underestimates that people can and are willing to learn all this

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the underlying systems that a lot of us are building on top of are becoming less well known
    >one boomers and older generations retire [...] will be impossible to maintain since those who had those skills died off
    There's a sci fi horror short story with this premise that was written in 1909 called The Machine Stops.
    Humanity lives underground in pods, interconnected by a massive machine, but it's so old that nobody knows how it works, and everybody just worships it and treats it as a deity as its lowly breaks down over time.
    This end was predicted 100 years ago.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, that one is great.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I like the Foundation version better
      >Finally build planetary scale Atomic power and space vessels
      >Maintenance period start reaching centuries
      >Longterm systematic power fracturing leads to a lack of engineers who has trained at the galactical capital on how to maintain them
      >Random planetary government can now do maintenance, but since nobody is building new stuff they can't do more than surface maintenance

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cs is just applied maths
    anyone's who's interested in it will eventually have to pick up the fundamentals, i.e. logic, logic gates, etc
    there is no fear that we will somehow forget this because "it's not being taught", it's as dumb as saying people doing maths phds forget how to do basic addition and division

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's a massive gap between logic gates and anything resembling modern processor in performance or capabilities. Sure you'll eventually reinvent it back in like 10 or 20 years but you're staying in the stone age in the meanwhile.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        when i was in school we implemented a small cpu in a simulator in about a month
        >Sure you'll eventually reinvent it back
        that wouldn't be that bad, we can get rid of all the legacy instructions

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          8080 is easy, it's something like pentium with microcode, pipelines, multi-level cache, branch predictors and all the other arcane stuff that will take time and effort to reinvent.

          [...]
          wanted to add that if we forgot how to do the nanometer scale lithography and somehow lost that knowledge completely
          that's the stuff that'd take decades to reinvent
          the design of the cpu is the easy part

          With just the loss of ability to produce modern chips a lot of shit will come crashing down. Most importantly, we might even lose access to the available documentation that only exists in digital form.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        when i was in school we implemented a small cpu in a simulator in about a month
        >Sure you'll eventually reinvent it back
        that wouldn't be that bad, we can get rid of all the legacy instructions

        wanted to add that if we forgot how to do the nanometer scale lithography and somehow lost that knowledge completely
        that's the stuff that'd take decades to reinvent
        the design of the cpu is the easy part

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "We forgot how to go to the moon"
    Goy problems

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do the israelites have a secret base on the moon?!

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Complete bullshit. The hard truth is that every program ever devised in any language is destined to go down that route. When the program is scrapped, it is rewritten. The cycle repeats

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hehe all the squiggly lines looks like a techno city and higways!!!! :DDDDD
    anyway I love technology, let's get a craft beer sometime

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bullshit. Universities still teach the basics, you're not getting through a Comp Sci program without learning assembly and a good amount of math. Bootcampers aren't learning the basics but they represent an increase in the amount of jobs in the field, not the amount of competent people.
    People don't understand what the competence crisis actually means. It's only a concern of companies that have cut corners so long that they no longer have anyone who's trained on their internal system. It's not going to be incompetent pilots crashing planes, it's going to be the airlines logistics being fricked because they didn't pass on the torch and now nobody knows the system. Really it'll be a good thing, creative destruction is a healthy part of progress.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Comp Sci programs haven't taught assembly in over 3 decades.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://catalog.mit.edu/subjects/6/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That seems unbelievable, like in the sense that you just made it up. They almost certainly teach you how assembly works and and some go as far as have you implement a VM for a basic instruction set to get into the nitty gritty details of your fetch-decode-execute cycle.

        And these aren't exactly difficult things to learn. You can see a guy walk through how you would build that exact thing in hardware, with a bunch of logic chips. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyznrdDSSGM&list=PLowKtXNTBypGqImE405J2565dvjafglHU

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How true is this /g:
    https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2005/12/29/the-perils-of-javaschools-2/

    Its a problem a generation old at this point and it frickin shows.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Lazy kids. Whatever happened to hard work?
      >A sure sign of my descent into senility is b***hin’ and moanin’ about “kids these days,” and how they won’t or can’t do anything hard any more.
      >When I was a kid, I learned to program on punched cards. If you made a mistake, you didn’t have any of these modern features like a backspace key to correct it. You threw away the card and started over.
      >[monty python reference]
      This is the worst opening to an article I've ever read. God I hate boomers. I stopped reading here

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm an angry zoomer and you need to pay attention to how I dislike something.

        Refusal to read leads to competency crisis.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Try not writing shit articles then.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            A man that refuses to read has no advantage over a man that cannot read.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Boomers gatekeep all of the critical information to protect their jobs
    >Never pass it down
    >No current workers understand anything of the old systems
    >Boomers start dying out
    >Young men start dropping out of workforce, because frick that
    >Boomer replacement is some Somali or other type of African working there as part of government scheme

    The future looks bright.
    Oh yeah and let's throw in all of the push for having 50% workforce in important systems being female.
    The moronic system brought all of this shit on itself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Im a Somali anon and made this post

      Why did you specify Somali ? Is kinda weird

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      cs was og a woman's field though and op's problem is specific to the us anyway. eastern countries (japan, russian, china, etc.) are totally fine kek

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cs was og a woman's field though
        Where in hell did you get that notion?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          google

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            An engineer or scientist would decide the inputs to the computer, write them down, and then a technician would do the physical input on the computer before handing the printed output back to the programmer. The technician jobs were almost all women, and the people actually writing the programs were almost all men. Jesus christ, you were raised to be ignorant and stupid, and you took to it marvelously.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it overestimates the importance of education and training
    the competence crisis is a crisis of filtration, not of training. the people who fricked up boeing are untrainable.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's all documented in design specs, manuals, or otherwise. they still teach basic computer science principles in school, if anything the programs are more intuitive now. low level component design is a popular hobby currently. drone development often involves development in assembly or otherwise directly interacting with machine ops and that has grown into a large field full of young engineers. you're all out of pocket, completely on one. believe whatever makes you feel like a smart guy though, I guess.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It isn't true in the sense that the op suggests. Computer Science is no longer one single discipline. Now you have such specializations as Computer Engineering. Just because young people don't know how to etch their own silicon, it doesn't mean that civilization is falling apart (for that reason anyway). Just like other academic disciplines, CS as a field is becoming more specialized.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    by the time society collapses you'll be dead or we have perfected escapism vr on the level of cyberpunk where you can hook someone up to a brain dance+feeding tube.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    plenty of people are learning bottom-up about computers. there is literally no issue and original OP is schizofrenic.

    the real problem is the black race and women

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The competency crisis is real but OP is a fricking moron regardless. A four or six year degree is not a "crash course", this is plenty of time for a proper curriculum. The problem is that said curricula have totally gone to shit because of dropping academic standards and rising demand for degrees, especially in CS.

    For that matter, on-the-job training is rapidly dying. Instead of onboarding the new hires, every company wants them to already be familiar with as much as the tech as possible because this makes them fungible. My old man's been programming since before I was born and his major was fricking microbiology, yet he makes some damn good bank because he's an expert in semi-obscure corporate tech that the vast majority of devs haven't even heard of. Where did he learn how to use this shit? His first job.

    The tech industry killed itself. Dumbass zoomers are simply dancing on the grave.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, each individual thing humans have developed insofar as tech goes isn't that difficult to learn if you had to learn it. If I had to guess, the people spouting 'competency crisis' are people who are unable to learn to do things via research and testing, and extrapolate that to everyone. The knowledge is out there, and you just need to look it up and follow it and try to get it working.

    I know it's hard to to accept that you may be on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How true is this /g:
    Western Civilization is gonna have an 1848 moment while trying to conduct wars on behalf of America's Greatest Ally. So probably pretty true.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >everybody talking about CPUs and hardware
    >no one wonders how the frick they managed to get typewriters to type themselves out a message in the 1950s

    teletype is the real voodoo to me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >teletype is the real voodoo to me
      it's just a converted telegraph signal with some sort of binary encoding that gets translated to paper via modified typewriter components. but yea, for the time, it was probably crazy cybernetic magic to most people who saw it for the first time.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the construction industry is about to fail because modern carpenters don't learn about forestry

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