How would you rate Benjamin Franklin's suggestions on being a virtuous person? 1. TEMPERANCE.

How would you rate Benjamin Franklin's suggestions on being a virtuous person?
1. TEMPERANCE. Eat not to dullness; drink not to elevation.
2. SILENCE. Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself; avoid trifling conversation.
3. ORDER. Let all your things have their places; let each part of your business have its time.
4. RESOLUTION. Resolve to perform what you ought; perform without fail what you resolve.
5. FRUGALITY. Make no expense but to do good to others or yourself; i.e., waste nothing.
6. INDUSTRY. Lose no time; be always employ’d in something useful; cut off all unnecessary actions.
7. SINCERITY. Use no hurtful deceit; think innocently and justly, and, if you speak, speak accordingly.
8. JUSTICE. Wrong none by doing injuries, or omitting the benefits that are your duty.
9. MODERATION. Avoid extreams; forbear resenting injuries so much as you think they deserve.
10. CLEANLINESS. Tolerate no uncleanliness in body, cloaths, or habitation.
11. TRANQUILLITY. Be not disturbed at trifles, or at accidents common or unavoidable.
12. CHASTITY. Rarely use venery but for health or offspring, never to dulness, weakness, or the injury of your own or another’s peace or reputation.
13. HUMILITY. Imitate Jesus and Socrates.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He said Germans weren’t white lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They aren't, they're closer to scythians or mongols than they are to whites. I'll post a rough map of where white people come from in my next post itt.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They aren't, they're closer to scythians or mongols than they are to whites. I'll post a rough map of where white people come from in my next post itt.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hilarious PoleBlack person cope. They both hate and want to be Germans so bad.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My take:
    >SILENCE
    Maybe among strangers, but among friends and family being rowdy is no vice.
    >FRUGALITY
    If something is beautiful or glorious, especially in relation to God, then extravagance is the proper response. In fact, I would say the actual ideal is to be a miser toward oneself, and a profligate toward the other.
    >INDUSTRY.
    ewww
    >CLEANLINESS
    This seems like autism to me. I understand it, but I also reject it.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Based and autistic, as always from Franklin. Based for its idealism and moral purity; autistic for its hopelessly naive belief in the efficiency of logic. IIRC, Ben tried to improve his prose with the same analytical eye and failed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Franklin: one of the most famous autobiographies in global letters.
      U? Post.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    /// They're going to their neighbors' for a shindig /// In the course of a few decades, American publishing had transformed from a parochial cultural industry, mostly centered on the East Coast, into an international, corporate affair /// She made a searing attack on her political enemies /// Up-country traders and porters were makers of their own destiny, and were not hapless casualties of change /// Her second movie followed close on the heels of her successful film debut /// The analysis needs to be more granular /// These shops are offering the physical accoutrements of polite manners - lace, gloves, linen underclothing, snuff, and gentleman's powdered wigs /// That lawsuit was just a blip compared with what was to come /// There are still a few kinks to be worked out of the plan before we start production /// When one strained oneself to listen to the speaker one could make out that some important male writers were speaking in generalities /// She started gabbling away at me in Spanish and I didn't understand a word /// I find many aspects of your proposal to be inadequate. For one thing, you don't specify where you'll get the money /// A player with that kind of talent is tipped for the top /// The room was decorated with twee little pictures of animals /// He's always sneering at the way people dress /// I thought I saw someone skulking in the bushes - maybe we should call the police /// The question is, does his statement on this mean anything, or it is just an obeisance to the popular ideas of the moment? /// His assistant’s carelessness is exasperating him /// I have a lot of saggy skin on my stomach since I lost weight /// She fleshes out the characters in her novels very well /// Miss Bennett whiled away the hours watching old films /// This could have caused increased numbers of mosquitoes that could serve as vectors for the disease /// All I can do now is to carry out his wishes, that will be my expiation for my neglect /// Their stage act is a little too raunchy for television /// Tania stared at him aghast, unable to speak /// They wore garlands of summer flowers in their hair /// Pine needles turning from tawny to amber /// Alcoa, a global aluminum products producer, is cutting a third of production at its smelter in Norway /// The map has an inset (= a small extra map) in the top corner that shows the downtown area in more detail /// An Egyptian stela dating from more than four and a half thousand years ago, now in the collection of the Louvre, depicts the Princess Nefertiabet dressed in what looks like elegant contemporary evening wear /// A large portion of this overlap is due to the prominence of crustaceans in fish diets /// Her clothes lay strewn on the floor /// We would be remiss if we failed to mention that lithium has multiple mechanisms of action beyond those outlined in the previous paragraph /// This piece of land has been tilled for hundreds of years ///

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      /// He liked to fulminate over moral depravity and the decline of traditional family life /// A stone mason was employed to engrave the following epitaph on a tradesman's wife: "A virtuous woman is a crown to her husband" /// The sudden onset of rain caught everyone by surprise, and people scrambled for cover /// Yes, certainly the happy ending necessarily doesn't mean that, you know, everybody goes prancing in the sunlight and dancing /// Law, in his view, to be law at all must at a minimum comport with certain norms: regularity, publicity, clarity, stability /// Alex was the cryptonym for Colonel Oleg Vladimirovich Penkovsky of the GRU, a man who had provided the British and American intelligence services with information beyond price /// The senator has gotten into hot water with constituents over his callous remarks /// They slunk away a few minutes later, looking significantly less wienery /// With poetry, as with going to sea, we should push from the shore and reach a certain elevation before we unfurl all our sails /// The Iowa caucuses get a lot of attention during the presidential primary season /// After he was misquoted in the interview, he knew he would have to run the gauntlet of his colleagues' anger /// We want you to give us the lowdown on your teammates /// Your glum mood can rub off on those around you /// The report states that vandalism is a pestilence that must be stamped out /// I spent the night scrunched (up) in the back of the car /// The killer acted without fear of retribution /// The café is a fun, casual spot, great for a pop-in after work with friends ///

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based and correct, but Benjamin Franklin is very untrustworthy. Being a high ranking Mason, he is the sort of person to say this and do otherwise. Setting that aside, a difficult set of rules to actually follow.

      /// He liked to fulminate over moral depravity and the decline of traditional family life /// A stone mason was employed to engrave the following epitaph on a tradesman's wife: "A virtuous woman is a crown to her husband" /// The sudden onset of rain caught everyone by surprise, and people scrambled for cover /// Yes, certainly the happy ending necessarily doesn't mean that, you know, everybody goes prancing in the sunlight and dancing /// Law, in his view, to be law at all must at a minimum comport with certain norms: regularity, publicity, clarity, stability /// Alex was the cryptonym for Colonel Oleg Vladimirovich Penkovsky of the GRU, a man who had provided the British and American intelligence services with information beyond price /// The senator has gotten into hot water with constituents over his callous remarks /// They slunk away a few minutes later, looking significantly less wienery /// With poetry, as with going to sea, we should push from the shore and reach a certain elevation before we unfurl all our sails /// The Iowa caucuses get a lot of attention during the presidential primary season /// After he was misquoted in the interview, he knew he would have to run the gauntlet of his colleagues' anger /// We want you to give us the lowdown on your teammates /// Your glum mood can rub off on those around you /// The report states that vandalism is a pestilence that must be stamped out /// I spent the night scrunched (up) in the back of the car /// The killer acted without fear of retribution /// The café is a fun, casual spot, great for a pop-in after work with friends ///

      I never read, nor will ever read, your posts, spammer.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We share a birthday and we're both Autistic Presbyterian English-Americans so 13/13.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >fatty talks about temperance
    Stopped reading right there

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do you suppose Ben Franklin would watch a lot of anime if he were alive today? What would be his housing/living situation? What would be his living reaction to having the gay agenda pushed in his face 24/7?

    Also, I was thinking a lot about the same questions of John Milton when I was at work yesterday. It didn't make me laugh out loud and look like a total idiot like usual, but I just felt like ChatGPT in a way.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I really need to read his biography

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It’s pretty good, I didn’t know much of his level of accomplishment until I read it. Guy had a hell of a life.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are you literally moronic, bro?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes actually, I'm doing something called sober IQ reduction which is from heat stroke and asphyxiation rather than from drugs; I used to hit myself in the head too but I was afraid of damaging my neck and eyes. Reading Giacomo Leopardi along with my life experiences convinced me that having intelligence was asking for trouble, so I have been deliberately causing brain damage. I am probably around 91 IQ down from where I started around 108

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >moronmaxxing
          I kneel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If someone with a 91 iq is capable of syntax such as this... I don't dare consider the iq of the average zoomer today.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Mason
    At this point I ignore all american authors and thinkers. My country is evil.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You’re free to move somewhere else then, Paco

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're free to crawl back down into your tunnel, yid

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm white. And where can I move? Nowhere. I hope this country sinks into the sea

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Eat not to dullness
    ben... easy on the turkey

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Franklin's parents were both pious Puritans. The family attended the Old South Church, the most liberal Puritan congregation in Boston, where Benjamin Franklin was baptized in 1706.

    Franklin's father owned a copy of a book, Bonifacius: Essays to Do Good, by the Puritan preacher and family friend Cotton Mather, which Franklin often cited as a key influence on his life. "If I have been", Franklin wrote to Cotton Mather's son seventy years later, "a useful citizen, the public owes the advantage of it to that book"

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >13. HUMILITY. Imitate Jesus and Socrates.
    Sound advice, one all decent freemasons should follow.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Sound advice, one all decent freemasons should follow.
      I see what you did there

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Do you have something good to add?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't take the advise of fatasses

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Was a vegetarian because it was cheap. Good man. Chadding out teaching the lads to swim. Based.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >12. CHASTITY.

    Lol lmao hell fire club hound dog

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1. TEMPERANCE
    Eat and carouse with Bacchus, or munch dry bread with Jesus, but don’t sit down without one of the gods.

    2. SILENCE
    Be still when you have nothing to say; when genuine passion moves you, say what you’ve got to say, and say it hot.

    3. ORDER
    Know that you are responsible to the gods inside you and to the men in whom the gods are manifest. Recognize your superiors and your inferiors, according to the gods. This is the root of all order.

    4. RESOLUTION
    Resolve to abide by your own deepest promptings, and to sacrifice the smaller thing to the greater. Kill when you must, and be killed the same: the must coming from the gods inside you, or from the men in whom you recognize the Holy Ghost.

    5. FRUGALITY
    Demand nothing; accept what you see fit. Don’t waste your pride or squander your emotion.

    6. INDUSTRY
    Lose no time with ideals; serve the Holy Ghost; never serve mankind.

    7. SINCERITY
    To be sincere is to remember that I am I, and that the other man is not me.

    8. JUSTICE
    The only justice is to follow the sincere intuition of the soul, angry or gentle. Anger is just, and pity is just, but judgement is never just.

    9. MODERATION
    Beware of absolutes. There are many gods.

    10. CLEANLINESS
    Don’t be too clean. It impoverishes the blood.

    11. TRANQUILITY
    The soul has many motions, many gods come and go. Try and find your deepest issue, in every confusion, and abide by that. Obey the man in whom you recognize the Holy Ghost; command when your honour comes to command.

    12. CHASTITY
    Never ‘use’ venery at all. Follow your passional impulse, if it be answered in the other being; but never have any motive in mind, neither offspring nor health nor even pleasure, nor even service. Only know that ‘venery’ is of the great gods. An offering-up of yourself to the very great gods, the dark ones, and nothing else.

    13. HUMILITY
    See all men and women according to the Holy Ghost that is within them. Never yield before the barren

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The soul of man is a dark forest. The Hercynian Wood that scared the Romans so, and out of which came the white-skinned hordes of the next civilization.

    Who knows what will come out of the soul of man? The soul of man is a dark vast forest, with wild life in it. Think of Benjamin fencing it off!

    Oh, but Benjamin fenced a little tract that he called the soul of man, and proceeded to get it into cultivation. Providence, forsooth! And they think that bit of barbed wire is going to keep us in pound for ever? More fools they.

    ...

    And, by the way, I always thought books of Venery were about hunting deer.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He's the nation's first moderate: promoted morality, but only so much.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Besides the "get rich" stuff, he didn't follow a single one of his own precepts.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ugly, lame, and boring. English Puritanism is ugly, American Protestantism is ugly, their direct modern descendant, the woke, is also ugly, each becoming progressively lamer and more boring. For virtue to influence people, it must be awe-inspiring, beautiful, and cool.
    I'm not saying that America never produced awe-inspiring things. Quite the contrary, it produced a lot of cool things, even if most of them belonged to "low culture", from the cowboy movies to Art Deco architecture to late 20th century action movies. But its tragedy was that what is "cool" in America hardly ever meets what is "virtuous". Had America ever managed to combine the two, its global cultural hegemony would be absolute, more than what the Catholic church could ever dream of. Unfortunaly, it seems that the moment for this has now passed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >America America AMERICA AMERICA AMERICA
      least obsessed third-world shitholer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      pseud of pseud posts

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with this completely. America is an aesthetic wasteland in terms of culture, the land itself, however, being quite beautiful. Puritanism was a great mistake of epic levels of autism and there's a reason why their homelands found this doctrine insufferable.

      This Nietzsche quote is fitting:
      >The Lutheran Reformation, in all its length and breadth, was the indignation of the simple against something complicated.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Tranquility
    Didn't stop him from seething and coping at Germans moving into "his" city and actually being productive and literate compared his angloid compatriots.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      seething subhuman hun detected

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >drink not to elevation.
    Already I'm out.
    >Be not disturbed at trifles, or at accidents common or unavoidable.
    Pretty good at that, particularly when it comes to avoidance.
    >CHASTITY
    Nothing wrong with a long slow lovey wank. But, if you can't do without prostitutes on a regular basis, it's obvious you're fricked.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >if you can't do without prostitutes on a regular basis
      Careful not to set that bar so low its on the ground, anon...

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >do as i say, not as i do
    in his letters he talks about slamming milfs and inventing contraptions to keep his wife from catching him with his mistresses

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      he also says not to eat too much but is clearly a fat frick himself

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This old oear shaped weirdo was slamming milfs looking like that and i cant get fricking laid

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just be a world famous scientist and author, bro.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nice, didn’t know he‘s Christian.
    Yeah I agree with all of it.
    Seems no different than Socrates‘ moral code I reckon.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These are just the seven cardinal virtues rebranded.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Franklin. Rank moralist and didacticist. A favorite between the ages of 8 and 14. Essentially a writer for very young people. Romantic in the large sense.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Beyond pretentious post.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Franklin, a yokel and peddlar of corny trash, vulgar clichés, Philistinism in all its phases, imitations of imitations, bogus profundities, crude, moronic and dishonest pseudo-advice. Now, if we want to pin down Franklin's influence in contemporary writing we must look for it in Freudian symbolism, moth-eaten mythologies, social comment, humanistic messages, political allegories, overconcern with class or race, and the journalistic generalities we all know in Amerikkka today. His “voice” in writing is that of the whining dork and twerp, the nerd who gets kicked in the teeth and runs away. And his “persuasion” is that of the Bozo, the pinhead, the middle-class loser, and the used car salesman.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/ep6Abvz.jpg

          filtered

          >pretentious pseuds doubling down on their pseudery
          Didn't read your post, dummy. I don't care what you have to say.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Holy Based.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            cringe

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >thinks a moronic Latinx post is based
            Can't you "people" just go build a website for yourselves somewhere? You're cancerous.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Puritanism is anti-based, so it follows. You're free to defend yourself.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        filtered

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          try having an iq above 130 next time, chimp

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't he a womanizer? Wasn't he fat, and often partook in revelry? By the way, where did he write all of these? I have read a fair amount of his works, and never came across any of these statements.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      These were written by him as a teenager, in his autobiography. How have you not read them? He never claimed to have been perfect, either.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I have read half his autobiography and don't remember it, besides some very bizzare views on the nature of God and diety. I guess for me it is difficult to take someone's view on virtue seriously who had a reputation for being highly indulgent and debauched.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He was actually a chad who women threw themselves at because he was extremely famous for the time. By all accounts he was a nice and polite person.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This but the complete opposite. I only take people's views on virtue seriously if they're highly indulgent and debauched.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Useless like every other virtue list that was ever made and will ever be made. They just say obvious stuff, often contradictory stuff. For example, Patience is a virtue, but also you must be proactive, don't wait until the iron is hot to strike, make it hot by striking.

    Often these virtue lists are written to point at someone else and call them dumber for not displaying whatever arbitrary values you want them to display. Like I could point to an American and say they have no TEMPERANCE because they eat and drink like pigs at sports events. Or I could look at the French and say they have no HUMILITY because their sexual liberties are not Christ-like. In reality, there are more than 300 million Americans in the world and you can bet that many of them are fitter, more beautiful than me.
    These virtues are also used by institutions to discipline their personnel into a way of thinking that is beneficial for the institution, as in the army, the church, colleges...).

    We all know what a good person is with some minor changes from culture to culture and some changes in what lifestyles are acceptable and desired from generation to generation.

    Most of the difficulty of human life does not come from choosing the correct or incorrect set of values to live by. Instead, the difficult parts about living life as a human are:

    > 1 Choosing the correct option with limited information (What will make me more happy, divorce and search for a better love life but risk being alone or stay and try to improve the relationship and myself will every other relationship be just like this one ?).
    > 2 Finding the correct course of action in duality, aka two virtues that are opposite but both correct (should I have fun or work this very moment, should I be more ambitious and pursue a career or should I be content and enjoy what I have).
    > 3 Staying true to our values. (I value fitness but did I go for a run this morning?)
    > 4 Making the best of shitty circumstances. (For example get cancer or Parkinson's and still be moral and treat others with kindness and be happy with the time I have left.)

    This are the strugles you will have in your life anon. I you are tring to figure out what values to have try to be action orited. Don't aspire to vague virtues like TEMOERANCE, as you better not show TEMPERANCE if someone is hurting your loved ones. Instead in day to day situation, what people you admire and see what they do and then do the same, what people who you think low of and avoid doing what they do.

    Most people think of big dramatic moment, but instead think of the action you do at least 3 times a day like greating people, starting/ending conversation, helping other, how you talk to your parent/old people/children...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >midwit filtered by Virtue
      Never fails. Study Plato's Meno. Perhaps you'll be cured, but I doubt it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Also, [don't wait until the iron is hot to strike, make it hot by striking], and so forth, are aphorisms--they are meant to contain a kernel of common wisdom, not explicate a virtue.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >1. TEMPERANCE

    Already lost me.

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