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What does Atheism offer society? What's its benefits?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nihilism

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Was Hitler a nihilist? He was always going around shouting, "seek hell, seek hell"

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is this Nile-ism from pharoah? Didn't that water turn to blood already?

  2. 3 months ago
    OP

    By "Atheism" I mean the science-focused skeptical brand of Atheism as seen with Richard Dawkins

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well first and foremost you want truth. A side benefit is that normal people wants to have sex before they get married for countless reasons, and they’re not interested in obsessing over the Bible and theology until they find some ugly chick possibly on the autism spectrum at a church who smells like milk

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        jesus christ dude, your orienting your life and the first thing your on about is sex?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you specifically mean that particular brand of atheism then its just the application of a broader philosophy of scientific empiricism to the claim of God, in which case the benefits it offers are everything produced by scientific empiricism, for example all of modern medicine.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, not quite. You can just apply empiricism to everything except religion, but that creates a lot of cognitive dissonance. So the real benefit of atheism in this context is relieving that cognitive dissonance.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/yhHCdcm.jpg

      What does Atheism offer society? What's its benefits?

      >What does Atheism offer society?
      >science-focused skeptical brand of Atheism
      The exact same things as science-focused brand of theism, except with no history, culture and spiritual dimension.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >culture
        Christian music, fashion, movies, TV shows, affect, nightlife (lol) are all corny and gay, and the holidays that have some Christian origin are now better off without the addition of visiting the local fat pedo in a dress with the grandmas of the town in church

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Christian fashion
          Huh?
          >Christian TV shows?
          HUH?
          >Christian nightlife
          ...... Anon, I'm not American. I don't know what the frick passes for culture over the pond, but ... not this.
          >gay
          Hmm, right. Maybe atheism will solve the gayness... it's not going that direction right now lol. So until it happens, I will be in beautiful churches that my ancetors built, singing songs that they sang for generations and venerating saints who are literally part of the same community as me.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            lol well in America if all non-Christian art, and entertainment, disappeared it would be bleak.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            You’re right we should all listen to Christian soft rock and only play board games

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >rock
            >board games
            >>>>> Americans think of this when they hear "culture"
            At least give me a chance to mock you. How can I possibly top this?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yeah he forgot having bake sales I guess.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            That’s Christian culture in America anon, it sucks I know that’s what I’m saying. They are the cultural equivalent of a bologna sandwich

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Protestantism and it's consequences have been a disaster for American development.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Protestantism is what made the US the world's most powerful nation

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >venerating saints who are literally part of the same community as me
            Anon most of the saints you worship probably lived thousands of miles from you unless you're greek.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Every country and virtually every century has their saints.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >are all corny and gay
          Of course they are. When your focus is preaching to a choir first-and-foremost, whatever media you're making is inevitably going to suck.
          Regardless of what ideologies you're preaching

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Atheists can come here and try to destroy people's hope for a better future and life. Other than that, I don't know.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not believing moronic shit without any good reason makes you harder to manipulate. Just look at American conservatives if you want to see what happens without atheism.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's all the same. Atheist scripture always starts with "New Study Suggests" followed by a study redone twenty times, with plenty of omissions. You replace universal morality, with data, putting yourself unduly on the top of the chain of existence, when in reality, we don't create, only perceive, discover, and interact with what we are given.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Atheist scripture always starts with "New Study Suggests" followed by a study redone twenty times
        Yeah anon if you want truth with maximum certainty you need to be incredibly thorough and even then you need to be careful about solid claims
        It’s not for everyone, for example you are not smart enough to understand even the concept of rigorously pursuing truth

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Are you being purposely obtuse? I meant the studies are redone to satisfy the researcher's confirmation bias.
          There is no "ultimate truth" just human hubris and a futile reach for infinitude as a finite being.
          The only way is to have faith.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Faith doesn't really bring you any closer to truth, arguably even less so since you're essentially just making shit up and going "yup thats good enough". It doesn't really produce any worthwhile results other than the person getting to feel a bit smug and self assured.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Studies are replicated to confirm the finding and it’s not always done by the same people, in fact I’m pretty sure OTHER scientists have to replicate the findings with the same methods as well before it’s taken seriously.
            You’re just not intelligent anon, sorry. You might not be dumb but you’re not smart enough for this.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Atheist scripture
        Stopped reading there. Go back.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I’m sure he’ll be in the next thread claiming that science is Christian

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the only way I can criticize atheism is by calling it a religion
        IQfy is actually a moron board

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Atheism was ultimately whatever people decided to make it, it offered a blank slate to build new philosophy on top of. Sadly people decided to just replace Christianity with Christianity-lite but gay sex is allowed.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It offers the truth

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is the truth?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a lie

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    For the leader. By David:

    Fools say in their hearts,
    “There is no God.”
    They deal corruptly, their deeds are vile,
    not one does what is right.

    From heaven Adonai observes humankind
    to see if anyone has understanding,
    if anyone seeks God.

    But all turn aside, all alike are corrupt;
    no one does what is right,
    not a single one.

    Don’t they ever learn,
    all those evildoers,
    who eat up my people as if eating bread
    and never call on Adonai?

    There they are, utterly terrified;
    for God is with those who are righteous.

    You may mock the plans of the poor,
    but their refuge is Adonai.

    How I wish Isra’el’s salvation
    would come out of Tziyon!
    When Adonai restores his people’s fortunes,
    Ya‘akov will rejoice, Isra’el will be glad!

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >these are the people accusing you of being a nerd and wearing a fedora

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are mass graves full of skeletons of people who did not fear Adonai. Giants who used to pluck humans form the ground and eat them like a snack, God put them down. And man still thinks he has the right to be arrogant and proud and not fear their Creator.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Giants who used to pluck humans form the ground and eat them like a snack, God put them down.
      So, where are the remains?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pink himalayan salt

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gay sex and pornography

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It offers absolutely nothing, unless you count throwing away morals as "something".

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even when I was Christian neither myself or others based all their morality off Christianity. There were even rules which you personally didn’t see the point of but followed because they were gods orders, and ones like don’t kill and steal where they were followed on their own merit.
      Are you telling me you don’t have a conscience?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need the bible to tell you basic morals like "don't steal and don't murder"?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t. supports killing of unborn children

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          if it literally doesn't even have a brain its not really much of a child. Very few people actually support third trimester shit.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >t. literally dehumanizing an actual human being
            Don't get me wrong, we might not differ all that much in the final analysis and results of our beliefs. But the idea that you can ditch 2k years of moral history and just wing it by empathy is completely dysfunctional and the constant swings of pendulum between pro-life and pro-choice make it the most apparent of all. You can empathy your way into "comfort trumps stupid life". You can empathy your way into "don't kill human beings ever". It's a shit compass.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            But you're not ditching 2k years of moral history, just changing it, which is essentially what Christians did with hellenist philosophy.
            The abortion debate, at least excluding the people who support third trimester abortions, is much more a debate on when a person becomes a person more than it is a moral discussion.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            We're not ditching our history, no. We're developing it. Hellenism is neither here nor there.
            >when a person becomes a person more than it is a moral discussion
            Well since it is about killing a (perhaps) person or not, its moral aspect is completely dominant. You wouldn't say that discussing if israelites count as human was a merely technical discussion either during the holocaust.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You wouldn't say that discussing if israelites count as human was a merely technical discussion either during the holocaust.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I would argue otherwise. Secular academics are considering histories previously considered "pagan" or "barbaric" in the past because of religious bias. A religious Christian scholar would tend to look only at certain point of history, while a secular academic would look into subject in Norse and Hawaiian examples rather than hyperfixation post-5th century western world.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Secular academics are considering histories previously considered "pagan" or "barbaric" in the past because of religious bias.
            Literally who is doing this? Most modern Philosophy of any kind has some roots in Plato or Aristotle.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Literally who is doing this?
            Historians. Ever read any recent paper?
            >Most modern Philosophy of any kind has some roots in Plato or Aristotle.
            "we name this land civilised and, because they eventually became le Jesusians, therefore only their philosophers are philosophers!!! Chinese are pagan barbars :(, natives are mudhut mudhut :(" is throwing rest of world history into trashcan.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Recent papers? Historians write books or journal articles.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you’re that concerned about morality you should be arguing about what is right instead of trying to convert them to a religion

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >if it literally doesn't even have a brain its not really much of a child.
            Ok, atheists don't have brains.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Petty boring answer, as expected from Christians

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You assume my stance on abortion based on...what exactly?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What morals does Christianity give us that we wouldn't have without it?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Crickets as always.
        Just a bullshit talking point they love throwing out that makes no sense

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          God.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        A solid set of moral guidelines that don't just devolve into "because i feel like it's right lol"

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >A solid set of moral guidelines that don't just devolve into "because i feel like it's right lol"
          But that's exactly what Christian morals do devolve to, which is why different Christian denominations read the Bible differently, and thus have different morals. E.g. some mormons practicing polygamy while other denominations don't allow it.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Christian morals are no more solid and are usually written so vaguely theres about a dozen different ways to read into them.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If atheism is correct it offers the benefit of not basing our decisions off a false assumption.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The illusion of free will.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      God gaves us free will.

      >See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
      >But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them; 30:18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
      >I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live
      Deuteronomy 30:15-19

      He clearly gave us free will, we can choose to do good or evil.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Truth.
    It's better to accept reality than to live in a make-believe fantasy world of your own making.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What does Atheism offer society?
    Individualism, which is necessary for society's leaders to develop in themselves.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What does Atheism offer society?
    Nothing. Ideologies are more important than religions in modern times anyways, after seeing left-wing Catholics I came to this conclusion. Religions can not offer anything in moder times too, therefore.
    >What's its benefits?
    Not being afraid of some chaotic entity from ancient times will burn you in lava because you touched your penis in wrong way.
    Also, freethinking and analytic pwrspective rather than pre-supposing because an ancient book told you so.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Secular societies generally have lower crime rates, better living standards, less corruption and instability, and better education than highly religious ones. So there's that.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      *western secular societies which were prosperous and actually safer prior to being secular.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Christian places on earth are generally worse and there seems to be zero correlation between religious vs. secular demographics and crime rate.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Freedom from asinine religious dogma.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    a chance to become christian.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Atheism is our future reality. Globally, people are caring less and less for religion. If atheism offers anything to the world, its the encouragement of critical thinking.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do indians only care to piss off muslims in pakistan?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      famous secularizing Iran on the map

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >replace white culture with atheism
      >white people stop breeding because men can be women somehow
      >import millions of religious muslims and mexicans to replace population
      >atheism is the future!

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The only correlation here is HDI, not atheism. Higher levels of human development lead to both lower fertility and atheism as the average person has access to higher quality of education.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Atheism is true, so it means you're not believing in lies.

    Religion may have some benefits but it isn't true.

    So the best approach is having any benefits of religion, plus the truth that God doesn't exist. So go and make sure you have friends, like a Christian would meet people at church. Make sure you understand the history of the universe to at least a layman's understanding, just like a Christian has their own story for the creation of the universe - but theirs is false, of course.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Basically no obstacles to any sort of scientific progress.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's actually a YouTube video about this.
    Make of it what you will.

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Atheism" should be lowercased and you basically mean "secular."
    As in, 'How would society benefit from secularism.'
    In which case religions can cause divides and schisms. This is not an issue to worry about in secularism.

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What does Atheism offer society? What's its benefits?
    so, christcucks gave up trying to prove themselves right and are now angling for "ok, it's not true but at least it's beneficial to society"? besides look at religious societies and tell me they aren't shitholes.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Show me some majority Atheist countries

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Estonia, Latvia, Sweden, Finland, Czech Republic, Japan, both Koreas, China, France

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What does Atheism offer society? What's its benefits?
    Christian IQfy OP's are mentally incapable of doing anything else in their lives but proselytizing their israelite worship on IQfy.

    • 3 months ago
      OP

      I don't proselytize
      Much less proselytize as a means of pushing my political views

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      honestly this. it’s because they don’t have the faculties required to think 10 seconds into a thought. what did atheism make? how about common fricking decency? how about airbags? how about literally creating the foundation for saving trans lives? but no, they probably could get to the first one (if they’re like 90th percentile IQ amongst Christians), but after that 10 seconds is up, poof. they are more inclined to think that sky daddy grew their beyond burger, or made their vaccine. anything but a team of dedicated atheist thinkers taking the stage like an army rationally equipped avengers of science. shame, honestly.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What does Atheism offer society?
    Truth
    >What's its benefits?
    What benefits are religious morons offering?

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not being tied down to an outdated moral code or trying to justify, find loopholes in, or willfully misinterpreting the moral code.
    >Story specifically about boning your sister in-law if your brother dies
    >A-actually it's about masturbation

    If Christian morality is so shit that you have to purposely undermine it what's the actual benefit of it?

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