I am too dumb to use Linux!

Hello 😛
Its 8am on a Thursday Morning, its the best time to start using Linux!!! Alrighty so first of all I haven't been using Linux really long at all, because really I started using Linux around the Summer just not as a dailydriver as to avoid making my Life miserable.
Heres the deal IQfy, I just installed VirtualBox and I want to start learning Linux from scratch so tell me your fav-distro and I'll try it out anon. I've been wanting to switch to Linux for years, I'm SICK of autoupdates, I'm SICK of proprietary software and spyware spying on me.
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tl;dr RANT:
Thats another thing, using Wine over the Summer was a PAIN to install and a PAIN to configure and let me explain why. Theres just a million bugs with every kind of program that runs but for whatever reason IQfy told me to use Wine and I don't fricking know how to use it so I was so much more MISERABLE. Its hard to explain to anons who have only ever used default Linux because really Linux is not supposed to be like Windows or MAC, its really just a bunch of little programs that work together but you get the point.
Anyways, maybe I'm just not smart enough maybe I just don't have the wisdom for Linux. I'll start with this, I hate Windows but I really really love Linux but you know I can understand using Windows as its easier to use with "normie"-programs such as Steam...BUT, that being said I am way too dumb to use Linux, I cannot figure Linux out as its the hardest to use OS. Of course there are different distros of Linux, but I think a lot of times what IQfy doesn't think about which is really annoying, is how they get MAD, especially at us Linux-noobies. Not just mad but I mean when IQfy gets REALLY REALLY upset like "RRRRRRRR look at all of these Linux-noobs on IQfy there so stupid I'm getting so angry!!!", now of course this is not every anon but IQfy is a weird place in a general sense which in turn divides the Linuxusers and oftens feels as the hostility increases at an ever rapid rate.
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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >.BUT, that being said I am way too dumb to use Linux, I cannot figure Linux out as its the hardest to use OS. Of course there are different distros of Linux, but I think a lot of times what IQfy doesn't think about which is really annoying, is how they get MAD, especially at us Linux-noobies.
    >since summer
    it took me two years of use in a virtual machine to get used to linux
    'didnt try hard at all, i just did my coding stuff in linux bc it was easier to set up everything this way
    maybe pick up python or webdev in general so you have a solid reason to use linux

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it took me two years of use in a virtual machine to get used to linux
      Really??? If you had to do it all over again what advice would you give yourself?
      >maybe pick up python or webdev in general so you have a solid reason to use linux
      I'll check it out, I've been wanting to code my own Website but its really different than I thought it would be. Any distros you would recommend for this?

      install gentoo
      this isn't even a joke

      gentoo?! Isn't that the hardest distro to install?

      https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64
      https://wiki.archlinux.org/
      chat.openai.com

      read, read, read

      Thanks you anon!

      this ain't your personal blog you Black person

      Well it is now 🙂

      Not gonna read your bible but just install Debian it just works

      Debian, got it, thanks I'll check it out anon also for the record I have only been using Ubuntu.

      >tl;dr longer than the actual message

      Is that a yes, am I too dumb to use Linux :*(

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I have only been using Ubuntu.
        Ubuntu is based on Debian. Btw Arch and Gentoo are not for beginners they were trolling you

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          not trolling, you don't learn japanese by living in UK :d

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is this bait or are you a clinically verified autist

        I don't mean that in a mean way either, I'm just genuinely curious

        If this is a genuine plea for help, you seem like the kind of person who would respond well to stuff like "Unix for the Beginning Mage" https://lab46.g7n.org/_media/haas/ufbm.pdf

        Generally you shouldn't be thinking too hard. The reason people use GNU/Linux systems isn't just ideological, they're also much easier and more convenient once you recalibrate your expectations.

        By far the absolute easiest way to learn how to use GNU/Linux happily is by having a mentor to teach you.
        Someone IRL or via messaging software to whom you can just ask questions. Specifically one person though, someone with whom you have rapport and who's willing to help you, personally. Asking out in public is generally unhelpful. Learning things happens interactively, not through documentation textdumps. You need someone who can teach you the jargon when it appears, best practices, and neat "extra" ideas that augment usability.

        IQfy is unhelpful and also pretty stupid. If IQfy sees you having a problem they don't know how to solve, they'll get embarrassed and blame you for getting the problem in the first place and insist that if you'd simply done as they do, the problem wouldn't have arisen to begin with. Sometimes this is true, but oftentimes this is cope.

        Here's specifically how you use Wine. Wine is a program which you will run through your "terminal" simply by typing its name, like you'd run any other software in the terminal. Then, as an argument, you input the FILENAME of the executable file you want to run via Wine. You have a location you're "inside" in your terminal, so if you're not in the directory where the executable is, type its full path. For example, running "ftl.exe":
        wine /home/<yourusername>/Games/ftl/ftl.exe would run ftl.exe via Wine.

        You may need to configure Wine to run ftl.exe properly. Cont. in next post

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i think FTL has a native build

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >it took me two years of use in a virtual machine to get used to linux
          Really??? If you had to do it all over again what advice would you give yourself?
          >maybe pick up python or webdev in general so you have a solid reason to use linux
          I'll check it out, I've been wanting to code my own Website but its really different than I thought it would be. Any distros you would recommend for this?
          [...]
          gentoo?! Isn't that the hardest distro to install?
          [...]
          Thanks you anon!
          [...]
          Well it is now 🙂
          [...]
          Debian, got it, thanks I'll check it out anon also for the record I have only been using Ubuntu.
          [...]
          Is that a yes, am I too dumb to use Linux :*(

          Note that the path I posted is an example. Obviously, your software will not be in the /home/<your_username>/Games/ftl directory. Usually, in fact, you'd just run wine while you're inside the directory that has the file you want to run. In the aforementioned case, if you're in the correct directory, you'd simply run wine ftl.exe.

          It is good practice to configure Wine separately for different uses. Ideally you'd configure it separately for each and every program, but that's pretty tedious. I, instead, have a couple of different configuration presets, saved in different locations.
          For the FTL case, you would usually generate this with
          WINEPREFIX=/your/path/here winecfg and setting the cfg. Winetricks is a helper script that makes it a lot more intuitive to do so, and if you have this installed (and you should), then instead of winecfg you could simply use winetricks.
          Let's say that I save my FTL prefix under /home/Anon/ftl. To run FTL, I would then do as before, but with the WINEPREFIX assigned
          WINEPREFIX=/home/Anon/ftl wine /home/Anon/Games/ftl

          What this does on a logical level is set an environment variable (meaning a variable that the software you're running is able to see).
          The env var is named WINEPREFIX and its value is /home/Anon/ftl
          Now, even if I call a different executable, if I specify the same WINEPREFIX env var when running wine, I'll use the same configuration options and hard drive storage paths (the fake C:/ drive that wine creates for example) as when I'm running ftl. The fact that the WINEPREFIX is in /home/Anon/ftl (/home/<yourusername> can be abbreviated as ~/ which resolves to the same path) simply means that all the files and configuration etc. will be in that folder. You can inspect it in your file browser etc. as a normal directory. The name of the folder doesn't matter, just that it's set as your WINEPREFIX and that it's configured.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            is this bait or are you a clinically verified autist

            I don't mean that in a mean way either, I'm just genuinely curious

            If this is a genuine plea for help, you seem like the kind of person who would respond well to stuff like "Unix for the Beginning Mage" https://lab46.g7n.org/_media/haas/ufbm.pdf

            Generally you shouldn't be thinking too hard. The reason people use GNU/Linux systems isn't just ideological, they're also much easier and more convenient once you recalibrate your expectations.

            By far the absolute easiest way to learn how to use GNU/Linux happily is by having a mentor to teach you.
            Someone IRL or via messaging software to whom you can just ask questions. Specifically one person though, someone with whom you have rapport and who's willing to help you, personally. Asking out in public is generally unhelpful. Learning things happens interactively, not through documentation textdumps. You need someone who can teach you the jargon when it appears, best practices, and neat "extra" ideas that augment usability.

            IQfy is unhelpful and also pretty stupid. If IQfy sees you having a problem they don't know how to solve, they'll get embarrassed and blame you for getting the problem in the first place and insist that if you'd simply done as they do, the problem wouldn't have arisen to begin with. Sometimes this is true, but oftentimes this is cope.

            Here's specifically how you use Wine. Wine is a program which you will run through your "terminal" simply by typing its name, like you'd run any other software in the terminal. Then, as an argument, you input the FILENAME of the executable file you want to run via Wine. You have a location you're "inside" in your terminal, so if you're not in the directory where the executable is, type its full path. For example, running "ftl.exe":
            wine /home/<yourusername>/Games/ftl/ftl.exe would run ftl.exe via Wine.

            You may need to configure Wine to run ftl.exe properly. Cont. in next post

            >it took me two years of use in a virtual machine to get used to linux
            Really??? If you had to do it all over again what advice would you give yourself?
            >maybe pick up python or webdev in general so you have a solid reason to use linux
            I'll check it out, I've been wanting to code my own Website but its really different than I thought it would be. Any distros you would recommend for this?
            [...]
            gentoo?! Isn't that the hardest distro to install?
            [...]
            Thanks you anon!
            [...]
            Well it is now 🙂
            [...]
            Debian, got it, thanks I'll check it out anon also for the record I have only been using Ubuntu.
            [...]
            Is that a yes, am I too dumb to use Linux :*(

            Adding to that, once you have your WINEPREFIX, you can use the same one for all your software you need wine for. What I do is, that if I run into a conflict, (let's say that I need 32-bit architecture for example), I simply make a new prefix. For a 32-bit architecture, I would do something like
            WINEPREFIX=/home/Anon/32bitwineprefix WINEARCH="win32" winecfg or ~/32bitwineprefix instead of /home/Anon, it's the same thing. Now, you may notice that if you have many wineprefixes, this leaves a ton of extra directories in your ~/ (usually written as "your /home" even though it's technically your /home/username). This is why it's a good idea to make the prefixes somewhere else. You could, for example, make a dir named "Wineprefixes" in ~/ and then put the individual wineprefixes in there. This is as simple as just making the ~/Wineprefixes dir (e.g. using mkdir or your file browser) and then writing WINEPREFIX=~/Wineprefixes/<prefixname> instead.

            Again, all of this is excess. In reality, you could just run wine <path/to/binary> without any env vars, and it's really as simple as that. If it doesn't work, you can check WineHQ for whether that specific program is compatible, and/or if it needs workarounds. Additionally, you can add different versions of wine which are patched for specific software. All of this adds to the load of things that you feel you need to know, I'm sure, but in reality you don't need anything beyond your own use case. Your understanding will expand as your need for more features and a better workflow expands. Take it slow and steady, and get some advice on where to start looking from people you trust in a 1-on-1 setting, not from IQfy unless it's specifically a friendly GNU/Linux thread or similar.

            That's all assuming this isn't bait, which tbh it really smells like.

            i think FTL has a native build

            It does have a native version yeah, but slipstream mod manager requires a Windows executable. You're right though

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    install gentoo
    this isn't even a joke

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i mean considering even debian dropping support for x86 and my server is 32-bit, then yes. i will actually be installing x86 gentoo. hopefully lack of systemd wont be an issue when writing my custom daemons

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64
    https://wiki.archlinux.org/
    chat.openai.com

    read, read, read

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this ain't your personal blog you Black person

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not gonna read your bible but just install Debian it just works

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tl;dr longer than the actual message

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Part of me thinks this is a troll thread, but I'll bite.

    The best way to learn Linux is to just use it. Setting it up in a virtual machine or dual booting it with Windows are bad ideas in my opinion. When you use either of those options, it is more or less guaranteed that as soon as you encounter a serious issue you will just get frustrated, give up and go back to Windows. Ideally you should just uninstall Windows and make Linux your only operating system. This way you will be forced to learn how to use it, because you have no other choice.

    Contrary to popular belief, I believe Arch is a good distro for beginners. The setup can be challenging and you can expect it to take you a few hours if you're a complete beginner, but once it's done you will feel accomplished, you will have a better understanding of how Linux works, and you will have a better understanding of your own setup which makes it easier to fix any issues.

    But Arch isn't for everyone, and if you want a distro that just works, you should go with Debian. I have had bad experiences with so-called beginner-friendly distros like Ubuntu, I find that a lot of things in Ubuntu just break and you have no idea how to fix it.

    You shouldn't really need to run Wine very often, or even at all, in 2024. One of the main reasons people fail with Linux is that they still try to use all of their Windows-specific software. You will find that almost all software you're used to has a free and open source alternative in Linux. Generally Wine should only be used as a last resort.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I just installed VirtualBox
    This is nice to start because "it just works", but when you want to learn something new, try virt-manager (uses qemu)
    >I want to start learning Linux from scratch
    I hope you have fun learning and get the feeling that you finaly own your pc. Btw "Linux from scratch" is (diy) distro in it self.
    >so tell me your fav-distro and I'll try it out anon.
    If you don't know what is Systemd or don't give shit at this time, start with Ubuntu LTS. Then move to Arch. Then finally start using Artix with init system you think would be fun to try out. Most important thing is to just use some distro you think is fun and not give a frick about what IQfy, Reddit or anyone thinks "is better". They are all the same shit and only thing that matters or makes difference is what you learn and can do. You can use Arch with Unity DE. You can use SteamOS with dwm and custom kernel. You can use RedStarOS with latest kernel and use your camera as a mouse. Distro don't matter that much. You can even compile most of the stuff and just use it with different distros. Sometimes there is that one thing that doesn't work with other thing like muslc with nvidia or bluetooth with OpenBSD, but most of the times you can create the same shit in a different distro.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I've been wanting to switch to Linux for years, I'm SICK of autoupdates, I'm SICK of proprietary software and spyware spying on me.
      Check FSF website for 100% libre free software distros (Parabola is Arch based). Just you to know, most of the Linux users use automated security updates (but they work like you want them instead of being forced and you have a choice to use that or not). Users also use large amounts of proprietary software on Linux and that is also ok, because it is you who makes the decision.
      >using Wine over the Summer was a PAIN to install
      First priority when using OS, is to use native applications that they support. Don't use Linux thinking it is Windows. Second priority is to use games through Steam (or just use proton outside of steam) and third priority is to use them in a VM. Just always try to use native Linux applications.
      >Theres just a million bugs with every kind of program
      Windows has 30-50 thousand NEW bugs every month. That is how things work in software development.
      >IQfy told me to use Wine
      Well there is most important rule; never listen what IQfy thinks. IQfy is full of morons that have failed in life and this place is only place where they know some useless things to think they are above everyone. Nobody actually gives a shit what WM/DE or if your terminal emulator has gpu acceleration or how you use bitmap fonts with patched rendering or something. These are fun things to learn, but it is you who uses the pc, end of the day. If you like to use mouse with a WM or really like comic sans as a terminal emulator font, then use it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I've been wanting to switch to Linux for years, I'm SICK of autoupdates, I'm SICK of proprietary software and spyware spying on me.
      Check FSF website for 100% libre free software distros (Parabola is Arch based). Just you to know, most of the Linux users use automated security updates (but they work like you want them instead of being forced and you have a choice to use that or not). Users also use large amounts of proprietary software on Linux and that is also ok, because it is you who makes the decision.
      >using Wine over the Summer was a PAIN to install
      First priority when using OS, is to use native applications that they support. Don't use Linux thinking it is Windows. Second priority is to use games through Steam (or just use proton outside of steam) and third priority is to use them in a VM. Just always try to use native Linux applications.
      >Theres just a million bugs with every kind of program
      Windows has 30-50 thousand NEW bugs every month. That is how things work in software development.
      >IQfy told me to use Wine
      Well there is most important rule; never listen what IQfy thinks. IQfy is full of morons that have failed in life and this place is only place where they know some useless things to think they are above everyone. Nobody actually gives a shit what WM/DE or if your terminal emulator has gpu acceleration or how you use bitmap fonts with patched rendering or something. These are fun things to learn, but it is you who uses the pc, end of the day. If you like to use mouse with a WM or really like comic sans as a terminal emulator font, then use it.

      >that runs but for whatever reason IQfy told me to use Wine and I don't fricking know how to use it so I was so much more MISERABLE.
      Never listen to IQfy and make your own research and test everything by yourself.
      >Anyways, maybe I'm just not smart enough maybe I just don't have the wisdom for Linux. I'll start with this, I hate Windows but I really really love Linux but you know I can understand using Windows as its easier to use with "normie"-programs such as Steam...BUT, that being said I am way too dumb to use Linux, I cannot figure Linux out as its the hardest to use OS. Of course there are different distros of Linux, but I think a lot of times what IQfy doesn't think about which is really annoying, is how they get MAD, especially at us Linux-noobies. Not just mad but I mean when IQfy gets REALLY REALLY upset like "RRRRRRRR look at all of these Linux-noobs on IQfy there so stupid I'm getting so angry!!!", now of course this is not every anon but IQfy is a weird place in a general sense which in turn divides the Linuxusers and oftens feels as the hostility increases at an ever rapid rate.
      tl;dr you are being gaslighted, internet isn't serious business, learn things and use what you like, don't post if you don't want answers ~ Like I said, IQfy is just full of morons and trolls (like every social media site is that I don't use or I use with throw away accounts). They are just people that you don't know, that don't know you even exist, that are gaslighting because they are bored and that is sometimes really fun. I also do that sometimes. I have a bad day or I'm really bored. I check threads and just gaslight multiple people, then seeing they start argue with tens of messages, I just remove cache and refresh the page without reading those answers. There they are arguing, thinking it matters while I don't even see their messages.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >is how they get MAD, especially at us Linux-noobies
    you're not just a "noobie" you're a little fegget
    this board is being abused by a low life apple Black person for years.
    we have no patience left for RTFM questions, complains, or any form of newcomers dogshit.
    if you showed a shred of interest, you wouldn't start the thread by introducing yourself(WHO GIVES A SHIT?!) and criticizing the community, instead if you started with a technical question that driven from an actual effort and a process of learning many of us would be happy to answer you in /sqt/.
    the problem with you fricking "people" that you are not even trying or as you said too stupid to even begin, how hard is it to search for a reference book, for a course doing something instead of browsing here and ask the same moronic question over and over again

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I only read the thread title. post too long
    However, it's hard to imagine that you know less than I did. Look, dl vbox, load debian stable .iso and test drive it.
    Personally I tried a bunch of distros, trying to save you some time, get debian.
    Next step, follow the directions and install it.
    Remember to go through the install step by step. Look up any questions, write notes if you need to. I had zero, that is not a single issue, and 2+ years later it is dead on reliable.
    Lastly, I went linux because windows 7 telemetry updates were a hassle and win 10 worse in that no choice to deselect. Makes me happy still to be rid of that.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's a fake screenshot. So sad!

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mint is my daily driver, but tinycore and Puppy will always have a place in my heart. Puppy especially. Both are smol so gr8 for VMs

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just get a Raspberry Pi or some shit and start messing around with selfhosting stuff you should learn it pretty suickly that way

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    same here
    the problem with Linux is that its made by and for trannies. In the rare case that you are one of the few on IQfy that doesn't want to turn himself into a ''women'', it might indeed be hard to understand linux

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically, You should start namegayging if you’re going to be using this like a blog. It’d be nice to see the development of this story

    I always recommend Pop!OS but I know the thing
    > Yes, Do as I say!
    So I would recommend Linux Mint or Debian for “just werks” or Arch for learning the full knowledge of your system.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    if you're trying to use Wine for gaming, it's a lot easier and more convenient to use Lutris.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Too many words
    Go back to www.reedit.com

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