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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would put more weight on "knowing" vim than actually using it. If you know it, but don't use it (eg anymore), that's legit. Don't care what your reasons are. If you use it, but don't know it, you're a 2020 YouTube Linux zoomer. Lots of applications silently use vim-like keybinds. Good shit-test.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Had to use Vim for SillyTavern. IMO it's not really worth it unless you really have to use it. Nowadays mostly just a nice gimmick, considering much better alternatives exist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, vim is completely useless. Of course you should use the bindings everywhere, instead of making code some point and click adventure.

      But what do I know, I am not some free time maxing meet who relearns his keybindings twice a month.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    only reason i use vim keybinds (on emacs, btw) is because it's less key strokes and im lazy
    i dont see how that equates to competence

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I use Vim... But still incompetent. Most of the time I declare a macro by pure accident. But I love the command line, so I don't mind. I do not use add-ons, they slow it down.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    please don't make vim the next metrics, I don't want pajeets to spam the internet with useless how-tos about it, making real stuff harder to find

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Vim used to be my primary text editor until about 5 years ago. Switched to Emacs since then and never looked back. While I initially used Emacs with Evil, over time I started to appreciate non-modal editing. I am still not convinced which is the best overall.

    However, you're an idiot if you think that the editor someone uses is an indicator of competence. I have met very good and very bad programmers using all kinds of editors/IDEs and there was no correlation. Still, I do believe that tooling is important and it pays off to choose a good text editor among many other things.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm in your position from the past (vim -> emacs with evil mode). I wish I liked Emacs default bindings but just moving around seems kind of limited. What do you use to navigate quickly? Just C-(f|b|p|n) feels slow.
      Also is setting capslock to ctrl worth it?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        when you understand C-f,b,p,n are used for cli navigation, nano, and many others that use readline you find out its not so slow.
        capslock -> ctrl could be good training wheels to transition but its a crutch.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I use C-fbnp for terminal navigation, but I mean it's slow for navigative text files. Let's say I'm 20 lines below a function definition I want to change a parameter to. How would I navigate to it without just holding C-p until I reach the line then using M-f to reach the parameter?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just C-20 C-p it's the same thing to 20-k in vim or you can just use avy so you can move the cursor just to whatever string on the workspace

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            C-u 20 C-n or C-s and type in the function params you want to change

            also these cover most navigation issues
            C-a, C-e, M-f , M-b, C-v, M-v, M-<. M->

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I switched to readline's vi-mode because I got annoyed with the emacs commands even just when I had to deal with long lines on the command line.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm encountering a problem with my NeoVim setup and I need some assistance. I have a init.lua file in my NeoVim directory with a simple line of Lua code

    According to a tutorial I'm following, upon opening the NeoVim directory, this script should execute and display "hello" at the bottom of the window, just below the status line. However, when I navigate to my nvim directory in PowerShell and open NeoVim, the message does not appear as expected.

    Here's what I've done so far:

    > I've placed the init.lua file in the ~/.config/nvim directory.
    > I open the directory with the nvim command in PowerShell.
    > The netrw directory viewer shows up, but no "hello" message is displayed anywhere.

    I'm not sure if I'm missing a step or if there's an issue with my NeoVim configuration. I haven't installed Lua separately since I understand NeoVim has a built-in Lua interpreter.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it is ASTONISHING how sloppy windows titlebars look on programs using some kind of darkish solid color. imagine having to see the BLINDING white title bar pop up. imagine having to see the BLINDING white titlebar at the top of the screen. remember in the Aero era when if you maximized the window the title bar was smart enough to have a black background, so it wasnt just glaring white light at the top of the screen? did they fire everyone who had any common sense at microsoft? i would have to say YES they did

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exit out of nvim and open a file.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why does yours say hello at the bottom?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          because the file init.lua is being executed

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why does yours say hello at the bottom?

        What's the name of the font anon?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          consolas

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Vim is great when you just need to edit a file rq from a terminal, but it isn't a great when dealing with a big project. Simple as. Grepping everything is fine, but it's so much easier to just right click and find definition and I don't understand why people won't admit that. The terminal is great and more than enough for a lot of applications, but full gui suite IDE's are just better.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People who use Vim are code monkeys who churn out spaghetti code and are done with "projects" in a quarter. They never had to deal with a behemoth that was written over several generations of developers. They never had to debug the code of someone who retired a decade ago. I use PyCharm where I can travel through the call stack and evaluate multiple lines of code that I write on the spot while keeping the context of the stack. Can I do that on Vim? Even if yes, I will probably have to do much more work. And for what? Keybindings I can use in my IDE anyway?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      vim has great plugins for exactly that usecase.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but it's so much easier to just right click and find definition
      I use that feature all the time in Neovim.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OH NO NO NO NO *wheezes*... HAHAHAHAHA

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >your tool is bundled
      >people will use everything at their disposal
      >your tool now filters YOU because everyone de facto uses it keeeeeeeeeeek
      Emacsissies did we get too wienery?

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vim is pretty easy to use.
    That being said However, I dont use vim because it is shit.
    Vim motions will not make you faster.

    For proof, realize that the best competitive programmers dont use vim.
    Its telling that that in the environment in which speed matters more than in any other environment, vim is still unpopular.

    In conclusion, vim is only used by unemployed hipsters and ecelebs being trendy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >competitive programmers
      Irrelevant comparison.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is the most relevant comparison.
        Vim users pride them selves on their text editor being lightweight and fast.
        >text editing at he speed of thought

        Competitive programming is the only environment where you could argue that that would matter and yet again, vim remains unused.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Competitive programming is a completely different discipline than programming fast. Yeah this might surprise you, but it is obviously true if you tried either.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In what situation would you ever need to "program fast" other than competitive programming?

            >"on the count of 3, you gotta get this thing done"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >In what situation would you ever need to "program fast" other than competitive programming?
            Programming fast is about performing the operations you need to do in the shortest amount of time. E.g. deleting lines can be done in dd, no mouse involved. Then you can move on to other things slightly faster.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's not my question.
            I'm asking, in what situation is more time sensitive than CP.

            Saving less than a second doesn't really matter.
            It won't matter at a job, it won't matter anywhere.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I hardly think competitive programmers all use the same set of tools. What do you think they use?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This isn’t starcraft no one who uses vim is trying to measure aps.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or perhaps people who use vim have real jobs

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are your opinions on Mason?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >install and config. 4 or 5 plugins to integrate with each other to install plugins

      the quintessential nvim experience. it's ok.

      for formatters, linters the null/none-ls plugin the mason integration depends on is also a workaround, as said by the author, which needs to be replaced with something more robust.

      DAP usage though in nvim is a meme (or trying to do complex multi-split TUI for that kind of thing, when the TUI windowing wasn't made for such a complicated use case)

      I started learning recently, but I've switched to Neovim because NvChad looks really cool.

      not being aware what the configuration is made of and not having full control of it is not a good thing long term

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not being aware what the configuration is made of and not having full control of it is not a good thing long term
        That's actually a good point. Should I just start with Vim and build an IDE from there with plugins based on my needs?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Start with something like kickstart.nvim. It's a minimal config that should be simple enough for a novice to read through and change as needed but still shows the basics of configuring with Lua.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is actually more helpful than the Vim tutorial, thanks

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The plugin it self is alright but mason just showed how fricked up neovim plugin ecosystem is
      >Ohh you want to use my plugin??? You need to install another plugin but I won't tell you what plugin you should use and how to install it since it's not my plugin
      Frick off

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am waiting for an actual plugin repository that someone designs around a github integration with a tag or something.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lazy.nvim can already do that buddy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      seems more effort to learn and setup than to just configure lsp yourself, I already have a distro package manager

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I started learning recently, but I've switched to Neovim because NvChad looks really cool.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can you use mouse in this editor?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vim is good because it filters mnemoniclets. If you can't into ^esc:wq you can't into the command line.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What if I'm fluent in Vim but choose to use Emacs? Do I get filtered or not?

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vim keybindings are soo intuative its like writing a sentence you have a subject noun verb
    >kfldkfjadfljdkfljkdafdafjdsfja;sj
    see! it that simple!

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're moronic, and here's a protip, competent people like to troll people like you with the following things:
    1) occasionally using comic sans in documentation (injoke among graphics programmers)
    2) occasionally editing a source file with notepad or something similar (to trigger newbs with the lack of syntax highlighting)
    3) using the mouse for commands whose keyboard shortcuts are simple and well known, even among non programmers, e.g. cut and paste

    Funny thing is, every single time I saw a guy get confused and comment on one of the above instead of laugh or smile, he was some kind of "power user", focusing on shit like suckless software and the like.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SPJ actually uses Comic Sans unironically. It's a pretty good font for readability by lysdexic people or people with poor eyesight.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vim gays are so funny they claim to live the bloat free life but then use vimscript to turn pure vim into an IDE abomination lolololololololololol 99% of vim gays turn their vim configs into pieces of shit

    inb4
    >but but i dont do that my vim config only has 3 lines
    congrats youre apart of the 1%

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >claim to live the bloat free life but then use vimscript to turn pure vim into an IDE abomination
      That used to be me, but I switched to Emacs after my Vim config crossed 800 lines.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i haven't learned to code yet but you're telling me if i immediately start learning with vim then i'll trick people into thinking i'm good? haha

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use vim but I'm terrible at it. Still better than vshitcode but I'm too lazy to learn it completely. Macros are amazing thoughbeit.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have no idea what Vim is but by the 20 year old law of IQfy, I must call it gay and you a homosexual.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vim.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i can filter people with IQfy. if you use IQfy, you're at least somewhat an autistic neet. if you don't...

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    with the help of AI, i have a good chance to come back to vim full time. For me it was being stuck in endless vimrc debugging/configuring hell.

    Now ai helps me write whatever i want vim to do with custom mappings/functions. what a time to be alive.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Emacs naggers also make some cool shit tbh
    How do you riddle me that?

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    barely anyone does anything with vim except edit their vim config and showcase color themes for their ricer screenshots

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now I'm imagining a interview where you need to edit some stuff on console: no vim, no vi, no ed. It's a simple obvious edit, but you gotta do it with something like a poor man's ed hacked together out of head, tail and cat.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use nano. If you do anything more complex than copying and pasting lines and editing config files in a terminal, you're moronic.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can some vim nerd explain the completion/narrowing/selection landscape to me? is telescope the only thing or are there other equivalents to helm/ivy/vemco stack in emacs

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    over complicated crap

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