I chose to he a black as coal Hunter Gatherer than a pinkoid farmer. WHG were to Europe what zulu people to South africa

I chose to he a black as coal Hunter Gatherer than a pinkoid farmer.
WHG were to Europe what zulu people to South africa

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Would be better to be a lighter skinned Gravettian than a WHG manlet with a smaller skull.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >WHG manlet with a smaller skull.
      This WHG pic rel has a bigger skull than any worthless dead end gravettian

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >doesn't understand the differences between individuals and averages
        In an equal sample size, a gravettian of the same z-score will mog him. What is his cranial capacity anyway?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You don't understand. There is not a single gravettian existing with a skull his size. The biggest skulled Euro HG is a WHG.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            What is his cranial capacity? There are many times more WHG skulls than there are Gravettian skulls on the record. If someone had many more SSA than East Asian skulls in their collection, the largest size might be that of the SSA even though that group has a lower average.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dry skull values:
            Cranial width = 164 mm
            Cranial length = 201 mm
            Basibregma height = 150 mm
            Bizygomatic breadth = 160 mm

            Vestonice had lower population in the first place. Deal with the fact that WHG had grearer genetic potential. As long as no vestonice skull bigger is found there is no point.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What is an outlier
            Anon...

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >lower population
            Proof?
            >genetic potential
            You still don't understand how averages work. So far out of all measured cranial capacities in prehistoric human skulls, barna grande is the largest. This WHG probably just had an ape thick vault.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Does that even mean anything? I mean the average native American had a bigger skull than the average European 200 years ago.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not a bigger brain size, and the ones that did only lagged behind in verbal IQ. WHO'S were culturally less sophisticated than Gravettians so that should pit your Amerindian vs European analogy to rest.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gravettian
      Lanky twinks.

      >Physical remains of people of the Gravettian have revealed that they were tall and relatively slender people. The male height of the Gravettian culture ranged between 179 and 188 centimetres (5 ft 10 in and 6 ft 2 in) tall with an average of 183.5 centimetres (6 ft 0.2 in), which is exceptionally tall not only for that period of prehistory, but for all periods of history. They were fairly slender and normally weighed between 67–73 kilograms (148–161 lb), although they would likely have had a higher ratio of lean muscle mass compared to body fat in comparison to modern humans as a result of a very physically active and demanding lifestyle.

      Meanwhile WHGs:

      >Cheddar Man was relatively small compared to modern Europeans, with an estimated stature of around 1.66 metres (5 ft 5 in), and weighing around 66 kilograms (146 lb).

      Much shorter, but nearly the same weight. A stocky, robust manlet built like Wolverine, meanwhile Gravettians were built like this guy.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can’t imagine how based WHG would have been if they didn’t have to subsist on berries and fowl for most of the year

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        how should i feel about the fact that roids makes me better than 99.9% of modern man and 100% of ancient men?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >looks like a chad
          >still has to pay SEA monkey trannies for sex
          Sad!

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Extreme cope

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >same weight
        False. Get your head out of wikipedia's ass. Gravettian had larger bone measurements that indicate body mass.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I do not like this man's proportions.

        how should i feel about the fact that roids makes me better than 99.9% of modern man and 100% of ancient men?

        Ask your cardiologist.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hate this gay please never post this queer again

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if EVROPA was populated by the offspring of Dravidian-looking WHG men and North Euro-looking EHG women.

    VGH...

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are indians obsessed with Ancient European groups who contributed by far the most to Europeans?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Same reason they’re obsessed with and LARP as blacks - because they’re mogged by whites and seethe about them 24/7

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          How does that make you feel britishers? Some ancient caveman that might’ve had a similar skintone to Bharatians sexed a white women.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >India
      >4 inches
      Ouch

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does that look black as coal to you?

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that pure farmers were brown and only became european when mixed with WHG.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      ...and after 25% WHG dna they have much more drift with white people.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        My point being that WHG dna is so extremely european it gives you bad impressions. These GAC vermin were still brown MENA but their 25% WHG dna artifically makes them closer.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that that is a bell beaker, not a farmer

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    FarmBlack folk didn’t even look remotely like that. Anatolian gibbonised mongrel shudras.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Anatolian gibbonised mongrel shudras.
      this, but in english?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        They were literal Gibbon-eyed grainmuncher peasants, but also simultaneously cannibals and indiscriminately violent towards one another. Seems a paradox but that is actually the reality of most agricultural cultures - they are plagued with illnesses and neuroticism.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Basically the equivalent of Mesoamericans but even more disgusting and ridden with the plague. Truly a vile people and should be recognized for what they were.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kino

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Basically the equivalent of Mesoamericans but even more disgusting and ridden with the plague. Truly a vile people and should be recognized for what they were.

          Kino

          Why the hate on your ancestor?

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You did him dirty photoshopping his photo in Venice.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >zulu people to South africa
    Why do people overhype them this hard?

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Funny, the 'farmer' guy is clearly based on a Beaker reconstruction.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Haplotism was a mistake

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do homosexuals on here hype up Vestonice gravettians when they got replaced by WHG? Probably even fricked their women too seing as both have mtdna U5.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only reason I see is manlet hate, which is bizzare as WHG dna has positive correlation to height. They all had height potential, mesolithic Europe was simply impoverished.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The first WHG on record is 7000+ years younger than the last Gravettian, the first hint of WHG DNA occurs in a place outside of the Vestonice clusters domain at least a couple thousand years after the end of Gravettians. They never interacted. There is this thing called the number line you should look it up.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Actually vestonice had 11% proto-WHG dna.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, it's WHG that has Gravettian ancestry.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Proof?

            >What is an outlier
            Anon...

            >lower population
            Proof?
            >genetic potential
            You still don't understand how averages work. So far out of all measured cranial capacities in prehistoric human skulls, barna grande is the largest. This WHG probably just had an ape thick vault.

            Barma Grande was mogged by this guy. And what do you mean proof? WHG has more samples and thus obviously was more populated. What is your obession woth gravettian dead ends? They never did anything and have no genetic continuances. Stop being deranged. Most gravettians also weren't barma grande either so the outlier thing is bizzare. All I pointed out is that peak WHG > peak gravettian which I proved. No headcanon nonsense about muh thickness please.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            More samples can be explained by being more recent. More time = more skulls are deteriorated. Also, less time = shallower and easier to find.
            >most gravettians
            Had bigger brains than most WHG.
            >proved
            Nothing without population numbers.

            Mesolithic high protein/fat food sources were smaller than paleolithic ones. We see a massive decrease in height and health after the ice age but also higher density.

            Evidence of it being enough to cause malnourishment? Evidence of greater malnourishment in mesolithic?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Barma Grande being an incel compared to Boggebaken is not my fault btw. Also, the Mesolithic being more quantity over quality is well established.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >incel
            Being 6+ inches taller and having a bigger brain is the opposite of an incel.

            >quantity over quality
            So you finally admit that they were inferior on average. Though you still haven't tied up the loose thread you helped bring up: population size. Bit since the original point is accepted, this hardly matters anymore.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Evidence of greater malnourishment in mesolithic
            What kinda evidence do you need other than food sources high in protein diminishing? No massive fauna remains to exploit.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Do you know what malnourishment is? It isn't just availability. Availability of shit causes it, but direct evidence would be bones. Do WHG bones show higher signs of malnourishment than Gravettian bones? If not then all else is irrelevant.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've seen a bunch of contradictory qualms in general. Results depend on parameters and in this case things aren't clear enough to rule a result as real or an illusion.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, it's WHG that has Gravettian ancestry.

          Proof?
          [...]
          [...]
          Barma Grande was mogged by this guy. And what do you mean proof? WHG has more samples and thus obviously was more populated. What is your obession woth gravettian dead ends? They never did anything and have no genetic continuances. Stop being deranged. Most gravettians also weren't barma grande either so the outlier thing is bizzare. All I pointed out is that peak WHG > peak gravettian which I proved. No headcanon nonsense about muh thickness please.

          Mesolithic Liguria has a sample that is transitional between WHG and Gravettians.
          WHGs were a subset of a very Gravettian-like group.
          The reason they are so phenotypically distinct is likely because they were extremely bottlenecked, as in at their ethnogenesis there were maybe less than 2,000 of them all living in the same valley and only expanding after a glacial recession in the early Holocene.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The brutal reality is that WHG men weighed the same as Gravettian men despite being shorter and malnourished. Whilst Vestonice fessted on mammoth WHG scrambled up berry soup. Despite this WHG survived and even thrived. Outcompeting farmers and even fricking ANE.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is the proof of WHG malbourishment? There is more than enough deer meat to eat. Eating more than you can eat will make you fat, not super fit. And maybe whgs were just that: fat. Short fat lardlet pygmies.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mesolithic high protein/fat food sources were smaller than paleolithic ones. We see a massive decrease in height and health after the ice age but also higher density.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      ANE hammered WHGs pretty hard and pushed them out of Scandinavia and dominated them paternally in South Europe.
      It was only in the Neolithic that WHGs and ANE began "trading" women rather than ANE giants steppeing on WHGlets and carrying off their girls.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought WHGs descended from gravettians.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Neanderthals had bigger brain cases and therefore probably brains. Therefore neanderthals were ancient aryan supermen
    Not so fast! Akshually the bigger brains for Neanderthals were more mass dedicated to visual processing (as it was darker in Europe at the time). This is seen in other animals and if you look at these orbital bones you can see... blah blah blah. Also you will note their stone age technology never improved over thousands of years and there is no to little evidence of any creative culture/behavioral modernity, but homosexual sapiens constantly improved and had elaborate burial rites.

    >Cro-Magnon aka Early European Modern Humans (EEMH) also had bigger brain cases. But without any of the supposed pitfalls of Neanderthals. Because they were homosexual sapiens they weren't in cultural stasis
    Uhhh. So tell me why Cro-Magnon were not supermen from Alderbaran again? Also how did they fall into the shit heap that was WHG after a couple thousand years with their smaller baby brains?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cromag fricked so many blue eyed whg women that he diluted his own bloodline and went extinct

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cromagecels have no Y dna continuancy lmao. C1 is dead end incel tier in Europe.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          There are a handful of C1s in Europe, they are found exclusively in Iberia tho, probably Magdalenians who survived in a WHG tribe.
          C did run a train on asia and to this day, Kostenki derived BVLLs such as the Mongols and Papuans are lording over F derived monkeys.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pajeets truely are mentallu ill fetishest

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The closest analogue to WHG would be Papuans or the Jomon.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      How would they be the closest analogue if they are massively genetically distant? Morphological phenotypes or non-neotenization alone do not determine ancestry. Bizarre you would ever think they do.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        WHG got "invaded" by agriculturalists like papuans were by austronesians and Jomon by yayoi. All these three later sexually outcompeted the farmer men due to varying reasons ranging from matrilocality and fitness.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          EEF were not matrilocal.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some hard truths. WHG or proto WHG bred gravettians and gifted them I*. Most were C1 after all. U5 was probably attaindd from a founder effect from a gravettian woman in WHG societies. WHG men fricked gravettian dead ends to oblivion.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      C1 is Aurignacian and the oldest I is Gravettian specific. WHGs are the manlet brainlet moronic nephews of Gravettians.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that the gravettian homosexual is some worthless MENA ape that feels connection to "Cro-Magnons". There is not a single worthwhile vestonice specimen. Several mediterranean WHG exist meanwhile.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >MENA
      lol
      >Connection
      I don't feel any to either of these which automatically makes my view more objective.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >MENAmutts think they are even remotely close to the primordial North African Cro-Mags
      Redas are natufian-ssa mutts. They possess very little West Eurasian.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    So basically proto-WHG men raped sunghir to create Vestonice and then raped them out of existance attaining U5 on the way then they eradicated goyet mongrels and then outcompeted farmers and EHG until disease break out and steppe took advantage.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, BK1653 created Gravettians with Sunghir
      WHG is West Eurasian side of Kotias UP, Gravettian and ANE

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That study is wrong and I know which one you're talking about. They're basically just trying to model these ancient pops with one another and it doesn't work because all the pieces aren't there yet. However by genetic affinity we can see that Vestonice has affinity to WHG and also no obvious east eurasian markers.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm basing all of these on fstats and qpgraphs I made myself I will post some later in this thread.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Vestonice has affinity to WHG because WHG is part Gravettian but WHG is also the only population that Kotias UP prefers. Kotias UP has no affinity for Gravettians thus they can't descend from WHGs

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you have a weird cuck fetish OP?

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is the “early farmer” Blonde and Blue-Eyed?

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