>I only charge my phone to 80%. >I never let it go below 20%. >I do this do maintain the battery capacity

>I only charge my phone to 80%
>I never let it go below 20%
>I do this do maintain the battery capacity
>in reality I'm just capping my battery to 60% so it's like I am walking around with a heavily degraded battery
>when it starts to drop in capacity my battery life is complete shit

Why do Plebbitors do this? Am I missing something?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is just battery autism for people who don't buy the extra coverage to have it replaced by year 2, and like to write cautious essays on Reddit for battery health management that the OS should have been handling automatically. You're not beating the "system" by doing all of these little rituals.

    Just charge the battery to full, discharge as much as the situation calls for it, and have it replaced when it's not so good anymore. Life is too short for this shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I pretty much just thrash my battery hard - full drain to 100% I don't give a frick

      Funny thing is despite this my battery health is "100%" in Settings after 6 months whereas I've seen people saying theirs dropped to 99% using all kinds of "tricks" to maintain it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What are the percentages measuring, exactly? I believe it's more of a sharp fall once you get some dendrite formations

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You've clearly no idea of battery chemistry

      It's not worth to constantly think about, but utilizing sane defaults that adapt to your lifestyle can help reduce waste by allowing for longer lived batteries. Of course it's all just copium when real answer is replaceable batteries.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      crippling autism is a defining trait of this site my broski. if you can't see that it's because you arrived here in 2020

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > have it replaced by year 2
      I can't be bothered to setup a new phone every other year. It's not like I could just clone a disk and be done with it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        repair or send it to be repaired

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're missing that people who brush their spooky skeleton (teeth) using an electric tooth brush with glued in batteries, live in a filter bubble. Their head, that's where their teeth are at, uses the eyes to see, but they do not see the phones with swappable batteries.
    They are living in a constant state of torment, birthing the abhorrent concepts you described. They're nothing more than zombies, polluting the only earth we have, due to Oral-B and friends.

    No go ahead, ignore my findings and give me you're money.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've had the same electric toothbrush for over 10 years now. Kinda weird how fine the battery is. I always charge my phone to max and it lasts a couple days.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I've had the same electric toothbrush for over 10 years now
        your electric toothbrush doesn't charge to 4.45v
        >I always charge my phone to max and it lasts a couple days.
        so?

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My battery lasts 3-4 days without a charge. Not capping anything.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      An mine lasts a bit over a week, but that's because of my style of using it.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can open shit up and replace battery Anon.
    >but it's waterproof!
    That's a meme except for diver grade thingies (think pressure). Shits like phone, electric razor or toothbrush will still be water resistant. Most of the time the battery has a standarised connector, otherwise two solder points and call it a day, don't be scared, you were gonna throw it away anyway.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You can open shit up and replace battery Anon.
      Can you? I remember trying to pull on the battery tab like in the youtube video and snapped the battery in half to some L shape. Bet it isn't covered in warranty.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Depends if they care to open the product. I've sent stuff on RMA that i had teared down. The only one that tried to b***h was Apple a long time ago on an ipod mini and still sent a new one in the end.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Battery replacement should always be under warranty. Otherwise claiming you can swap is just as valid as saying you can ride it to the moon (the first 5cm off ground anyway)

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Letting the battery drain completely (like leaving something in a drawer for years until the battery reaches 0 volts) is the only thing that absolutely decimates lithium batteries, overcharging is bad but your phone is smart enough to not let itself explode.
    The battery will lose capacity just due to age, eventually it'll fill with microscopic metal spikes and there's nothing you can do.
    In short, just use the fricking battery.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >your phone is smart enough to not let itself explode.
      Uhh..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you don't need to think about battery management, then letting it automatically only charge to 80% will prolong it's service life. If it becomes some nervous tic then it's obviously not worth

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's a trick to train u like a dog to get used to bad battery life, then when it's fricked up u get to charge to 100%, having the same runtime measured in hours.
        anon is right, use the fricking battery

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They could always make 80% show as 100% by default and allow you to 'overclock' your battery to real 95%. That's real manipulation. Allowing you to cap your battery life while showing it all is much more transparent imo.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            then they'll do it and u won't even notice

            people don't even have the balls anymore to buy a phone with swappabke batteries and u think they'd sue if they get ripped off? nah, reality is about money, so deception and nothing else, imho

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            unfortunately, they don't do this, or at least, most manufacturers don't
            Sony only charges batteries up to 4.2v, the Nintendo Switch only goes up to 4.1v, that's why you still see plenty of people using day 1 switches with original batteries and why my z5 compact is still at 85% capacity after 7 and a half years of use.
            Most brands do the opposite, they try to maximize battey life by charging up to 4.45v or even 4.47v, Google does it, xiaomi does it, motorola does it, don't know about others.
            I definitely agree that 4.2v (so about 80% capacity) should be the default cutoff, and maybe allow the user to change it by digging through the settings, most normies charge overnight and having their batteries sit at 4.45+v the whole night completely destroys batteries

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    btwsies

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Technology is for you. You are not for technology. Use it however you want unless it affects your convenience and time.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    200IQ Poorfag

    not my problem

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what am I looking at

      • 2 weeks ago
        200IQ Poorfag

        Innovation!

        • 2 weeks ago
          200IQ Poorfag
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          n1, ur the one from IQfy?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why don't phones just internally limit the battery max charge to 80%?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's prolonging its lifespan from not stressing the chemicals so much. Instead of lasting 3 years before turning to shit it will now last 6 years.

      Modern software like oneui has an option for that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So, instead of having 3 years of good battery life, you willingly choose to rather have 6 years of shit battery life, just self-imposed?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >instead of having 3 years of good battery life
          overnight charging to 100% on a phone with a 4.45v cutoff is probably more like 1.5/2 years of good battery life
          >shit battery life
          10-20% less capacity on a phone that can already do 8+ hours of screen on time isn't "shit battery life"
          If you end your day with 20+% left, why not have the battery stay that capacity for 7-8 years instead of having the battery only last 4 years tops but in change get a useless extra 20% you never use?
          also, you can charge to 100% on special occasions when you know you'll use your phone more you fricking moron, which is exactly how EV's do it, they have "daily" limits and an occasional "trip" 100% option
          you also probably just don't get that charging to 90 instead of 100 already more than doubles the charge cycles, why wouldn't you trade 10% capacity for a 6 years of good battery health instead of 3?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you also probably just don't get that charging to 90 instead of 100 already more than doubles the charge cycles, why wouldn't you trade 10% capacity for a 6 years of good battery health instead of 3?
            see picrel

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      see

      unfortunately, they don't do this, or at least, most manufacturers don't
      Sony only charges batteries up to 4.2v, the Nintendo Switch only goes up to 4.1v, that's why you still see plenty of people using day 1 switches with original batteries and why my z5 compact is still at 85% capacity after 7 and a half years of use.
      Most brands do the opposite, they try to maximize battey life by charging up to 4.45v or even 4.47v, Google does it, xiaomi does it, motorola does it, don't know about others.
      I definitely agree that 4.2v (so about 80% capacity) should be the default cutoff, and maybe allow the user to change it by digging through the settings, most normies charge overnight and having their batteries sit at 4.45+v the whole night completely destroys batteries

      the answer is: because that would mean less battery endurance, or bigger/more expensive batteries
      so they prefer to just have batteries charge until they nearly explode
      some brands that do care do this already

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why does it lower endurance?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          because less capacity = battery lasts less
          ?????
          why wouldn't charging the battery less result in less battery endurance

          maybe I should've used "battery life" instead of "battery endurance", I really don't know how to make it clear if I'm talking about the temporary battery life or the long term one

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i usually think of the long term life when i am reading about battery endurance

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      mine has an option to limit it to 85%

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The recently announced Honor Magic6 Pro comes with a second-generation silicon-carbon battery that ensures more reliable performance in various conditions as well as increased power density. The battery is the first in the world of smartphones to have a standalone chip called Power Enhanced Chip Honor E1.

    >The new battery tech uses silicon instead of graphite for the negative electrode. Silicon itself has several key advantages over graphite, the most notable being its density. The silicon anode offers 10 times the power density of the graphite, but it expands in volume by up to 300% and has a shorter life cycle. That's why Honor uses a silicon-carbon anode to offset the inherent drawbacks of silicon.

    The second-generation silicon-carbon battery also boasts improvements in charging. To ensure optimal performance the company even added a standalone chip to manage the battery.

    The chip itself constantly adjusts the current depending on the environment and loads involved. Per Honor's words it makes the battery safer, and enables it to perform better in extreme weather environments, especially in cold weather, and offers more accurate percentage readings of the remaining battery. It allowed the new Magic6 Pro to charge at 80W, instead of 66W.

    Interestingly, Tesla has been working on such battery tech since 2016 and has already implemented it on some of its vehicles.

    tldr: A standard lithium battery doesn’t have much left in it once its voltage drops to 3.5 volts – this is where silicon-carbon shines as it has 240% more capacity left at 3.5V than the standard battery, which leads to the 12.8% overall improvement

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ...are you still falling for these shit?
      they've been talking about these revolutionary too good to be true silicon/carbon/whatever fricking material batteries for decades already, and they never materialize, or there's a massive catch that makes them unsustainable (too expensive to mass produce being one of them usually)
      I bet when the phone actually launches it's going to have a totally normal lipo battery, or it'll cost 10 grand and be the only phone with such battery tech for the next 10 years
      >Tesla has been working on such battery tech since 2016 and has already implemented it on some of its vehicles.
      no it hasn't
      also, tesla never lies... right? all teslas have full self driving since 2018, right? and what about the robo taxis?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honor Magic5 Pro (past year) and Magic6 Pro (this year) do have the battery in China. Black person

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >can barely find any mentions of it having such battery
          >every specsheet lists it has having a regular lipo battery
          >capacity is just 5100mAh
          >can't find a single picture of the battery (to read the label and check if it is actually silicon based)
          lol

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            China only

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ...any proof that the china model really has such battery then?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wow look, I found a pic of the china exclusive 5450 mAh silicon battery on an aliexpress listing
            ...it literally says lithium polymer on the label and no mention of silicon anywhere on it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            forgot to attach it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            aren't those mostly bullshit? they work fine for a while but degrade fast?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ...what do you mean
            that's a regular lipo battery

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NPCOS: tesla_bad.sh
        NPC: GRRRR GRRRR GRRRR

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wow look, a musktard
          how is saying "tesla lies all the time" an npc take? they ojectively do
          90% of what they announce never comes out, or takes an extra 10 years and it sucks ass compared to expectations
          you gotta be insane to believe a single thing that comes out of musk's mouth

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      btw now that I read that fully
      NOWHERE does it mention it has better long term battery endurance than a regular lithium ion battery
      they never talk about battery health at all, but only boast about it having more capacity
      so it likely has worse lifespan than a regular lithium battery
      so I have no idea what this has to do with the battery health discussion
      also
      >this is where silicon-carbon shines as it has 240% more capacity left at 3.5V
      then why is it only 600mAh more capacity than the average similar size lithium ion battery?
      I bet it's because, the fricking phone electronics cannot function below 3.3v, and at lower voltages, you get less current output as well
      a battery that can discharge to 0.1v is useless
      and also, lithium ion batteries can discharge down to 2.5v just fine, it's just that the discharge curve from 3.5v to 2.5v is so sharp that it doesn't matter, what's the discharge curve on these batteries? who the frick knows
      the more I look into it the more bullshit this all seems

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So basically what's your best way for charging? I usually let the dumbphone charging inside all the time and sometimes let it discharge to "calibrate". It's working for years with the same unit.
    I've no idea why some are recommending to charge only 3/4 and stuff, it's like charging your power bank @50% to me.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I usually let the dumbphone charging inside all the time
      you mean, you keep it always at 100% charge? congrats, you are completely destroying that battery
      >sometimes let it discharge to "calibrate"
      pointless, there's nothing to calibrate with lithium ion batteries, except for the charge % gauge (which you clearly don't care about)
      >It's working for years with the same unit.
      losing capacity doesn't mean it doesn't work
      >I've no idea why some are recommending to charge only 3/4 and stuff
      first of all, 80/90% isn't 3/4
      the reason is it massively increases battery lifespan, don't you know how to read?

      >you also probably just don't get that charging to 90 instead of 100 already more than doubles the charge cycles, why wouldn't you trade 10% capacity for a 6 years of good battery health instead of 3?
      see picrel

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >losing capacity doesn't mean it doesn't work
        Not for 3 years. I keep working with it a week with a 4000mAh without charging, so I wonder if it's all bullshit software science over hardware and natural cycle of discharge. Maybe they keep you undercharged to charge it more often and frick your ass to buy more products. Who knowns.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just go outside in the summer, to the beach, put it in the sun(tm) and have it get rekt within minutes
    >"my battery lasts 7 years!!11"'
    literally a weird flex, but ok, my man.

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