I think there is a God behind the creation of the universe.

I think there is a God behind the creation of the universe. But at the same time I think in all likelyhood he doesn’t care about us. I want to believe that there’s a God who loves us and gave us purpose, but I have so much doubt.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The other day it occurred to me that fiction is essentially deist in that the creator of the world and its narrative typically resigns after its completion, and the world is subsequently independent of him. This makes deism more plausible to me

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >but I have so much doubt.
    No. You suffer. I do too. Dont confuse that with a lack of faith in God.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >and gave us purpose
    Why would you worry about that? If you have a purpose you will fulfill it eventualy; otherwise you can do what you think is right

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He loves us but we are extremely insignificant to him, he doesn’t give us individual purposes but he does send all humans to either heaven or hell. There will be perfection in the end.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So somewhere between a cold deist god who does absolutely nothing and the stereotypical “Jesus gave me my destiny, Jesus cares if I become an actor or writer”

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Finally... the most moronic possible theology...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How so?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't make sense.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How so?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How could anything be insignificant to an omniscient being?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because he is an eternal, omnipotent, omniscient being? Obviously he knows everything, but we as people are very insignificant to him. It's a matter of power and priorities. Logic and personal experience clearly show that out of the hundreds of billions of humans, most of them are not given any specific purpose.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but we as people are very insignificant to him.
            Why?
            >It's a matter of power and priorities.
            An omniscient and omnipotent being does not need priorities. All things are equally trivial for him. All things occupy an infinite amount of his infinite attention.
            In order for something to be insignificant to God, it would imply that there exists something else more significant than those things which are insignificant, which as I have explained does not make sense.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All things are not equally trivial to him, major historical events such as the rise of the Roman Empire are of greater importance than some random aborigine's life. Individual people are very insignificant to God as shown through logic. Most people very much do not have any great purpose. God doesn't need time or effort to do anything, this doesn't mean that he is interested in the details of most peoples' lives.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >major historical events such as the rise of the Roman Empire are of greater importance than some random aborigine's life.
            Explain why. I don't think you are fully grasping the concept of omniscience.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because the omniscient/omnipotent God causes certain historical events through other peoples' free will, the success of the Romans was a prerequisite for the emergence of Christianity, for example. Conversely, there have been around a hundred billion humans to ever exist - most of them lived meaningless lives filled with suffering, this goes against the idea of God micromanaging each person's individual life with such interest, even though he obviously could.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And from the Christian perspective, most of said people living these meaningless lives filled with suffering have been living in idolatrous, demonic darkness.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Because the omniscient/omnipotent God causes certain historical events through other peoples' free will
            Shit meme.
            >Conversely, there have been around a hundred billion humans to ever exist - most of them lived meaningless lives filled with suffering
            Have you heard of the butterfly effect? Every last miniscule happening is of infinite importance to all other things.
            There is no Roman Empire or Christianity without millions of insignificant Romans going about their insignificant lives in an insignificant manner.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Shit meme.
            What shit meme? Obviously God influences the world's events
            And yes these people are important as a WHOLE, that is why I stressed INDIVIDUAL and PERSONAL the whole time. Are you illiterate? God, the eternal and omnipotent creator of the universe, is not particularly interested in the personal day to day life of the average 3rd century Illyrian peasant, even though said peasant would still be judged for heaven/hell and millions of these people together are pretty important.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >God, the eternal and omnipotent creator of the universe, is not particularly interested in the personal day to day life of the average 3rd century Illyrian peasant
            You keep saying this. You haven't explained why this would be the case. You keep repeating it as though it is self-evident, but I have demonstrated that it isn't.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because God meticulously influencing the lives of every human as an individual, each with their own unique destinies, with their own unique tribulations and challenges doesn't make sense when you look at the majority of humanity, either historically or today. This view of God then shows him as being ridiculously illogical or downright sadistic, considering that the vast majority of said people would end up in hell.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            By your standards God is a sadist regardless. He knows the consequences of not interfering and doesn't interfere anyway. Conscious inaction in this instance is equivalent to conscious action.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >But at the same time I think in all likelyhood he doesn’t care about us.
    Seems improbable, wouldn't we have crashed by now?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >But at the same time I think in all likelyhood he doesn’t care about us.
    Isn't that convenient, now you can be as much of a degenerate as you want without consequence!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hope there is more to life than just cooming and smoking weed. I really do. But I don’t see any such thing.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even if that were true, God might care about us in the same way people care about their Sims or animals.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I think
    You don't know
    You only believe
    Because we've been told to

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Because we've been told to
      That describes most things in life though. I believe in evolution, but I've never done my own research beyond reading the research other people have done.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Freemasons doubt in the same way, that's why they're headed directly towards hell

    Find catholic/orthodox church exorcists on YouTube or whatever, you'll find the truth

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