I "upgraded". >wayland session boots to a black screen. >plasmoids are incompatible

I "upgraded"
>wayland session boots to a black screen
>plasmoids are incompatible
>taskbar panel height is YUGE
>the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
Frankly it's a disaster.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
    btw if you turn off floating panels, it's only aesthetic... THE CLICK TARGETS DON'T FILL THEIR VISIBLE SPACE

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get it
      >vertical space is nowadays extremely limited because of crap aspect ratio
      >hey I have a great idea! let's waste even more of it!

      kde is just another flatshit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You can disable float, set its height use a vertical panel on the side instead of top or bottom...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >actually clicking on taskbar icons instead of using super+1/2/3 etc.
      sounds like a personal problem

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't know that. Thanks, anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      seems like a bugged implementation on your end m8, because that's not how it should be.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >THE CLICK TARGETS
      The what

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Gee, I wonder what could have gone wrong.
      It's a mystery.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they look pretty ordinary. it would surprise me if they were the same ones shitting on the street

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Oh no a localization team for a country I dislike
        Then don't run KDE in Hindi or any other poojeet language. as

        I can't believe I considered switching from xfce4.

        says these guys look fairly middle class and I'd bet money on all three of the women in the picture being female, contrary to what you'd get from the main KDE team or, say, the German or Spanish localization teams.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        aryan facial structure

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Frankly it's a disaster.
    That's KDE for you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      works perfectly fine with X11

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it doesn't, you just aren't using what's broken

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the negative space below the floating taskbar
    the what

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The area highlighted in green

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just make it a non floating bar if it bothers you that much. I think the floating one is meant to be used with the auto hide feature.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          see

          >the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
          btw if you turn off floating panels, it's only aesthetic... THE CLICK TARGETS DON'T FILL THEIR VISIBLE SPACE

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Weird, for me it was the opposite. The click target worked properly even if the bar was floating

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >ignore numerous replies anons made calling out OP for being a lying prostitute
            Gee I wonder why it works for you anon.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I feel like I'm one of the few that had little to no problems with it.

          I wonder what the point of auto-hiding panels is. I like having a clock visible at all times. Maybe if I had a desk clock, I dunno.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I've all panels on dodge (pretty much like autohide) cause I don't need the panels at all time and when i do i just move the mouse to that edge.

            More vertical space for the windows, as I can't really get used to use panels on the side.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        skill issue i can click just fine
        plasma 6.0.1

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        [...]
        [...]
        I guess evidence is needed for morons who don't know how to use software.

        works on my machine.

        Is there any way to change how programs are highlighted when open in the taskbar? That current highlighting without rounded corners looks hideous.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          sure

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm gonna be honest, I don't know, I'm just using a theme based on sweet
            https://store.kde.org/p/1294174

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm gonna be honest, I don't know, I'm just using a theme based on sweet
            https://store.kde.org/p/1294174

            And one more thing blur for ie. dolphin will not work in current kvantum stable, it'll be transparent and it's uncomfortable to use that way, you can wait for an update or use kvantum-git

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
    This is wrong, I just tested

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Then you didn't test effectively.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >>the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
      Why do you lie on the internet anon?

      skill issue i can click just fine
      plasma 6.0.1

      >ignore numerous replies anons made calling out OP for being a lying prostitute
      Gee I wonder why it works for you anon.

      I guess evidence is needed for morons who don't know how to use software.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If anyone is too stupid to understand what is going on, the taskbar counts the drop shadow as a click target, but beyond that it can't detect the cursor.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        my bar is on the right but it works just fine to the edge of the screen

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If anyone is too stupid to understand what is going on, the taskbar counts the drop shadow as a click target, but beyond that it can't detect the cursor.

        Is it possible to "fix" that by assigning frickhuge shadows? In gnome I would write some shitty css but not sure how anything works in kland

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
        i finally understand, op used to "throw" his cursor at the edge of the screen in the general direction of the taskbar instead of carefully navigating his cursor to the icon, now he can't do that

        there's a setting for that, right click -> enter edit mode on taskbar

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >there's a setting for that, right click -> enter edit mode on taskbar
          see

          >the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
          btw if you turn off floating panels, it's only aesthetic... THE CLICK TARGETS DON'T FILL THEIR VISIBLE SPACE

          I don't want to do another recording, but naturally I tried disabling floating panels immediately, and the click regions are identical, which is hilarious.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >polish

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            this update clearly wasn't

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            CARLOS

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you must have found a bug because clicking on the edges works fine for me. do you have an active monitor below that?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, do you use larger than 100% dpi scaling?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            if you're talking about the scale setting under display, I tried setting it to 200% and it's still working fine. check if the same thing happens on wayland or whatever the opposite of what you're using right now

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'll gladly change over to Wayland when it doesn't crash on boot

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the same thing happened to me before and it turns out it was the custom cursors i was using

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There are apparently dozens of circumstances which can cause this.
            >Set its heigh then, this is not an issue
            The point is that my settings never changed, KDE's interpretation of my settings changed, and it didn't auto-adjust itself. Of course I manually made it smaller. It's just shitty.
            >Disable floating
            see

            >the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
            btw if you turn off floating panels, it's only aesthetic... THE CLICK TARGETS DON'T FILL THEIR VISIBLE SPACE

            >The simple ones only requires a change from manifest.desktop to manifest.json
            So KDE should do that automatically.

            How do I remove all the old kde5 bullshit it left on my system? There are so many packages, I'm tempted to just wipe and start over, ffs

            https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/delete-remove-orphaned-unused-packages-arch-linux-pacman-command/

            Absolute skill issue. Go back to Windows if KDE is too hard for you.

            Absolute kill youself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            some replies meant for

            >wayland session boots to a black screen
            gpu brand?
            >taskbar panel height is YUGE
            Set its heigh then, this is not an issue (pic related)
            >the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
            Disable floating (pic related)
            >plasmoids are incompatible
            The simple ones only requires a change from manifest.desktop to manifest.json, the rest varies but it's usually easy to port so i expect most not abandoned plasmoids to update, and I'm already doing porting and doing pull request for the ones I use.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think your problem might be that you have moved the panel up manually instead, or in addition to, floating and that's why it doesn't work as expected no matter if floating is on or off, try moving it to the very edge

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Most of them aren't actual orphans, they're tied up in a web of bullshit dependencies.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >they're tied up in a web of bullshit dependencies.
            That's modern DEs for you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I was dumb and assumed the new KDE6 packages would simply update their KDE5 counterparts, but no. Might as well do a reinstall.
            Is the lock screen bugged for anyone else? It flickers between image and darkness for half a minute before my desktop actually shows, I have a nagging feeling it's related to the absolute mess of packages in my system right now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        works on my machine.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My machine is more important to me

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Lol the first thing I did was disabling floating bars thinking i wont be able to click below but I'm trying it now with floating and it works.

          The thing that does not work for me is that in autohide or dodge if I want to drag something to it it doesn't appear no matter where I move my mouse (as workaround I've set a corner of the desktop to peek so i drag first there and then to the bar that is not occluded by any window anymore)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        and that's a good thing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Absolute skill issue. Go back to Windows if KDE is too hard for you.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He's going to have more free time if he does so.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >that massive size
        Must be a scaling issue, go report the bug

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        just disable the floating taskbar if you don't like the fact it floats and forces you to click accurately lmao?

        I'm using plasma 6 without floating and the taskbar items are registered for clicks/selection even when my mouse is at the absolute bottom of my screen

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >uses muh lion malware
        >uses krash de
        >calls other stupid
        kek

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This looks like an issue with auto hide. It works fine if you don't use that (auto hide is not enabled by default)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm mostly annoyed it seems to have thrown away all my user settings. My custom shortcuts no longer work and everything seems really small and "thin" (for lack of a better word).
      It's also clearly no longer intended for X11 (obvious lag) but getting wayland to work requires kernel stuff because Nvidia so that was fun to deal with.

      did they finally kill evdev? my mouse settings stopped working after the ``upgrade'' until I went back to libinput
      I want my fricking kinetic scrolling back

      Thanks for beta test LMAO
      Gentoo stable does not have NOT ONE such problem

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm mostly annoyed it seems to have thrown away all my user settings. My custom shortcuts no longer work and everything seems really small and "thin" (for lack of a better word).
    It's also clearly no longer intended for X11 (obvious lag) but getting wayland to work requires kernel stuff because Nvidia so that was fun to deal with.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >getting wayland to work requires kernel stuff because Nvidia
      Link to a guide?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If in a hurry literally just look up how to make wayland work on nvidia. If not you could read the Wayland, Nvidia and Kernel parameters entries on the arch wiki to find the information you want. I did both.

        At least I learned what F9 does inside Dolphin.

        kek this I thought I was going mad. In my case the X11 session is slow as frick to open and close windows now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't say this post... i think is the modesetting thing here:
        https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA#DRM_kernel_mode_setting

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          saw not say... like i said, try that it's probably it.
          There's also another flickering like issue that is not happening to every nvidia user, i think there's no workaround but here's the link just in case:
          https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481975

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Updates are gay, make it right the first time

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    did they finally kill evdev? my mouse settings stopped working after the ``upgrade'' until I went back to libinput
    I want my fricking kinetic scrolling back

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >did they finally kill evdev
      not sure if they killed it, but yes kcm will immediately crash if you to configure mouse settings with it. don't think it's intentional since qt still builds with evdev.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >>the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
    Why do you lie on the internet anon?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    shitpost bugs at bugs.kde.org

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >restore system files from a borg backup
    >wait a few months while they sort things out
    You DO make backups right?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Stop using KDE Neon dumbass

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I just got a flood of qt6 packages on Arch

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        thanks for beta testing!

        t. gentoo stable

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    wait, is op on x11? lol lmao even

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i'm never switching to wayland

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        enjoy your keylogger

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Should i switch to Wayland if i use KDE?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Try it out, if it annoys you too much switch back to x11

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is there anything i should consider? just installing wayland and see if it satisfies me?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The X session won't be restored when you switch to Wayland and will still be lost if you switch back to X, other than that you can switch between the two as much as you want

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Electronshit will be buggy, chrome at least has a flag to enable Wayland so the browsers are fine

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >set taskbar to "fill content" for the novelty
    >breaks window thumbnail previews
    lel

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Goddamnit now I'm trying to play a game and suddenly screen stuttering. Fricking Wayland

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      womm &

      [...]

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe the most popular plasmoid of all time and no one bothered to fricking update it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is fricking moronic. The KDE devs should take a little initiative to port some things before rugpulling the whole ecosystem.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        plasma 6 beta was available to everyone since a very long time, not a rugpull

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          slowpull

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >rugpulling
        Beta testers seethe.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >rugpulling
        Beta testers seethe.

        But that plasmoids are not made by the kde team, so it's not their work to do it unless a compatibility layer or some automatic upgrade can be done.

        Why not ask the Qt Project themselves to port all qt 5 applications to qt6 then?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >it's not their work to do it
          Such a weak fricking excuse. It's open source, and it's for the health of the platform they produce.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Talk to the qt project too, it's for the good of their language they should port all applications to qt6 for free.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They did do some porting.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well i have a lot of qml files here that haven't been ported yet, what they're waiting for?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >kde
    >gayland
    What did you expect of using alpha quality software? OP

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >wayland session boots to a black screen
    gpu brand?
    >taskbar panel height is YUGE
    Set its heigh then, this is not an issue (pic related)
    >the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
    Disable floating (pic related)
    >plasmoids are incompatible
    The simple ones only requires a change from manifest.desktop to manifest.json, the rest varies but it's usually easy to port so i expect most not abandoned plasmoids to update, and I'm already doing porting and doing pull request for the ones I use.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What needs to be changed? I use the split digital clock one for my vertical panels but it hasn't been updated.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        for plasmoids?
        First try just to add add a manifest.json if it doesn't have one, there's an automatic way of doing this:
        obviously first navigate to the plasmoid directory then
        desktoptojson desktop.json manifest.json

        In some cases that's enough, in other cases the qml files needs some changes.
        https://develop.kde.org/docs/plasma/widget/porting_kf6/

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How do I remove all the old kde5 bullshit it left on my system? There are so many packages, I'm tempted to just wipe and start over, ffs

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have just installed KDE Neon distro (Dev) with Plasma 6.1.
    Everything works.

    >wayland session boots to a black screen
    lie, although wayland is dead, just use X11
    >plasmoids are incompatible
    haven't tested, all that are included work fine
    >taskbar panel height is YUGE
    lie
    >the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
    lie, you can click it
    >Frankly it's a disaster.
    lie

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i3 chads win again

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >having nvidia
    Not my problem.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lol did they actually get rid of lock screen shaders?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe it was a plasmoid? I don't remember having shaders in lock screen in kde5, don't thrust me on this thos as I can't remember what stuff i had there as i was just using vallpaper that was a plasmoid.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It was a plugin

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I was thinking on automatizing the process to upgrade plasmoids to kf6 (is usually not too hard) but on some cases the qml changes are pita to translate cause there's a lot of properties that just don't exists anymore and you have to modify things a bit to get the same results making it hard to automatize, of course upgrading all the plasmoids manually is out of question as it's too boring to do it for free, probably a llm should be able to do it, but I'm not sure if any of the free variants will be able to do it for large qml files.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    After this update I finally realized that DEs are not for me, gonna switch to awesome or some other wm next. Had to restart computer at least 5 times already and mostly because settings application stopped working.

    And thank you Arch for this update.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can trigger a crazy flickering bug, where the screen constantly blacks out. It even affects TTYs. Also screen lock on inactivity doesn't work properly, monitor goes straight black instead of loading the lock screen and the screen locker itself locks up frequently and has to be killed from a TTY. The bugs are present on both X and wayland but probably more common on wayland.
      >inb4 nvidia
      6900xt.

      I'm slowly working on awesome config too. I like the kde software suite and will keep using it, but the window manager side has been a shitshow forever. I've got to try kwinft/theseus' ship first though.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >startx
    noting personell :¬)

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm new to Linux and I've been using EndeavourOS w/ KDE for the past 6 months. I literally had no problems so far like you guys mentioned in this thread. I do some commands in the terminal too and I barely know what it does half the time. Am I just lucky?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In the same boat, but also discovered a world of just works after my amd card died and i'm using the intel igpu.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >a world of just works after my amd card died and i'm using the intel igpu.
        This must be it. I use EndeavourOS on a latitude laptop. Crazy how intel's igpu has best linux support of all companies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I've been using EndeavourOS w/ KDE for the past 6 months.
      OP is talking about a major KDE update that just dropped recently. The previous version of KDE (5.27) was pretty good and most people didn't have any complaints with it.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I guess this is why KDE users shut the frick up when I say I'm sticking with xfce.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this is why I never updoot right away
    have fun beta testing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      Not going to update until all the really nasty bugs are gone, like the black screen flicker problem.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      News form the front, kde 6.0.1 is already out, it works great on Intel, there's still some troubles with nvidia.
      There's less rough edges than expected, even wayland seems to behaving well.

      Rough edges for me:
      >Bad font rendering on gtk applications (fix: install xdg-desktop-portal-gtk" and then run:
      /usr/lib/xdg-desktop-portal --replace

      >A lot of old plasmoids missing as just some of them has been ported (Probably will get better over time)
      >Missing feature: execute commands in notifications events (you can play sounds or display messages)

      Also if you use kvantum with blur wait for 1.1.0 or update to git version.

      This release has been smoother than macos ventura to sonoma

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    But people said to me Linux is superior, bug and trouble free!

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My experience with it has been alright so far, I guess. A few bugs that went away after a restart, an sddm theme bug that went away after deleting the config file it generated. Also, one of my widgets is incompatible. All shit I more or less expected to happen.

    Probably the biggest annoyance I've encountered is that notifications are spawning in the center of the screen on the X11 session. However, despite touting this as the definitive Wayland release, they don't appear to have fixed the issue where windows don't remember their positions on Wayland, which is annoying as frick to me. This is a feature X11 has had for decades.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >wayland session boots to a black screen
    >the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target,
    How were you able to see taskbar with a black screen moron?! You booted into x11? X11 runs even worse on 6 and is not the default. Of course it was shit.

    Bait. O.P is a moron who goes around IQfy trying to start ''wars''.with sloppy prompts. Fyi there are issues with 6. see last thread. and you can always sage this thread.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My system is experiencing a memory leak after this update.
    But it only occurs in Wayland, in X11 it is normal, but it still consumes about 2 GB on cold boot.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What a disaster

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this will only get worse if jeets don't get their dirty brown hands off wayland and kde

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >but it still consumes about 2 GB on cold boot.
      i should have you know that windows server/ltsc consumes about 1,5 GB on cold boot. 0,7 GB without windows defender
      i've said this many times, troonix has become what they hated

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is why you run Debian and upgrade to KDE 6 in mid 2025 when they have this shit all figured out.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the only correct answer

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    KDE has always been an unstable mess. Only a few distros even configure it well enough to daily driver with it. It's getting to the point I just want to throw XFCE back on my machine and forget about it

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    unironically, what's the use case of floating task bar? looks like absolute shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I guess it's same as always with kde/gnome: shitOS does it so we must copy!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I guess it's same as always with kde/gnome: shitOS does it so we must copy!

      Are you guys for real? does a toggle switch for a feature killed your mom?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No one complained when 1 click to open was default, now tards act like floating panel is unchangeable.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >No one complained when 1 click to open was default
          a lot of people complained, that's why it's not the default anymore

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I know that it can be disabled
        I just don't understand why it exists in the first place, what's the benefit?
        and why bring it now?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm considering it for the top bar it looks nice, not everyone has the same tastes.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >op b***hing about KDE
    >doesn't use archlinux and KDE so KDE is always broken
    >uses reddit logo browser
    l m a o

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yup.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all these Linux users talking about the hundreds of bugs that plague their toy hobby OS
    b-but its used on servers... muh server grade OS!

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I ported some plasmoids that I use.
    I didn't post because I don't want to deal with noobs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I did pull requests for some easy to fix plasmoids, the only one left that i was using is vallpaper but at this point I'm not sure if it's better to fix it or rewrite it from scratch cause I've never liked the ux (yet it was one of those configure it once forget about it) so I'll probably wait a little to see if the author fixes it before trying to create an alternative.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like it's time for GNOME 46

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    At least I learned what F9 does inside Dolphin.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you are "new" with dolphin I'd recommend filter, ctrl+i neat feature.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks for the tip, it'll be useful for sure.

        There's one very annoying bug in plasma 6 btw. If you minimize Dolphin, places panel disappears when you restore window.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Using 6.0.1 here and it's not happening, not sure if you're on 6.0.0 or if it is some weird graphical issue that make it not display properly... I'm on intel igpu.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Using 6.0.1 here and it's not happening, not sure if you're on 6.0.0 or if it is some weird graphical issue that make it not display properly... I'm on intel igpu.

          I've searched for it on bugs.kde.org, are you on x11 or wayland?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            x11. I'm also using 6.0.1 and Intel gpu.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Then it's probably this one:
            https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=480494
            It only happens on x11, I decided to stay with wayland for kde6 (was on x11 until now) for now seems to run fine, except for the font issue mentioned here:

            News form the front, kde 6.0.1 is already out, it works great on Intel, there's still some troubles with nvidia.
            There's less rough edges than expected, even wayland seems to behaving well.

            Rough edges for me:
            >Bad font rendering on gtk applications (fix: install xdg-desktop-portal-gtk" and then run:
            /usr/lib/xdg-desktop-portal --replace

            >A lot of old plasmoids missing as just some of them has been ported (Probably will get better over time)
            >Missing feature: execute commands in notifications events (you can play sounds or display messages)

            Also if you use kvantum with blur wait for 1.1.0 or update to git version.

            This release has been smoother than macos ventura to sonoma

            there's a fix there so, not really a problem

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I bound that to /
            pretty comfy
            [...]
            it's an x11 problem. I gave wayland a try and it stopped doing that

            Plasma 6 on wayland feels a bit sluggish for me... Not sure why, but I don't have time to tinker with it now. Except for few annoyances it works fine on x11 too.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Intel? cause it works smooth as hell here, it was not the case with kde 5 but on 6 I think I've gained some fps, I'm at 144fps stable now even dragging windows around (with wobbly effect and blur)
            ps. I just realized that the fps counter cannot be captured by the screenshot tool

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I bound that to /
        pretty comfy

        Thanks for the tip, it'll be useful for sure.

        There's one very annoying bug in plasma 6 btw. If you minimize Dolphin, places panel disappears when you restore window.

        it's an x11 problem. I gave wayland a try and it stopped doing that

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think you mean that you transitioned into plasma 6

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any tips for making the trackpad better?

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just installed kde after being its #1 fan. It is bloated buggy garbage

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cringe moment

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have a 4090 and from the sounds of this, I shouldnt update my arch install for at least six months...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fbdev=1 usually just works, but I've heard about a strange race condition affecting some nvidia users, so to be sure wait for the next nvidia driver if you want.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's BARELY functional, and only just barely.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Works on my machine.
    My only complain is that there's no Lightly for Plasma 6.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's a theme? If it's a kvantum them it should work but blur will be fixed on next kvantum release (the git version already has it)

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what's the symbolism of the > and dots?
    here it appears on an op-amp from 1982
    why is it now the logo for kde plasma?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Can you adjust its brightness from the battery settings?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a merchant.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Frick, I can't unsee it now.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like a Windows 11 style scheme that you losers will eventually accept.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >wayland session boots to a black screen
    >novideo

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    please kde Black folk:

    [...]

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ??? 6.0.1 here

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        And the energy settings one too

        it used to be integrated with the battery icon, now it's a separate icon for no real reason

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ¯_(ツ)_/¯ I just use the keyboard shortcuts, and the option being moved doesn't affect me.

          Report it if you want

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        And the energy settings one too

        Seconding this. Its been bugging the shit out of me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ??? 6.0.1 here

      And the energy settings one too

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They ruined Kleopatra by giving it a ton of moronic dependencies and bloat. Frick KDE jeet "devs"

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bismuth finally broke and Polonium is complete dogshit, several shortcuts stopped working and the virtual desktop switching animation is laggy as hell when the taskbar tries to switch states.
    Because of 6.0, I chopped off my dick, started taking estrogen and switched to a window manager.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Because of 6.0, I chopped off my dick, started taking estrogen and switched to a window manager.
      OP here. ngl, I’m entertaining the idea.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Because of 6.0, I chopped off my dick, started taking estrogen and switched to a window manager.
      OP here. ngl, I’m entertaining the idea.

      you can also just use xfce

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I ended up trying out awesomewm, spent the entire day finetuning it but I managed to recreate most of my workflows and keybinds, I'm quite happy with it.

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Works on my Arch Linux machine.

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why KDE representatives and devs lie about this update? "It's better than before, muh Wayland axe wound is more stable" my ass. This update is fricking abysmal, fricking feels like alpha version.

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    looks like the year of the linux desktop got postponed, kek
    come home
    https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links.html
    https://massgrave.dev/windows_server_links.html

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    More bugs:

    > Without any application open, I was about to leave the computer and go for a walk, when I received a random crash message.

    > I went for a walk, left the PC on. The sleep mode was off, only the screen off mode was activated. When I returned, I only had the mouse pointer, everything else on the desktop was gone, black screen. I had to restart the PC.

    > Dolphin doesn't keep the panel displaying, every time I open it I have to press F9.

    > Mysteriously, notifications were appearing in the middle of the screen, instead of the right corner, like normal.

    > There was an update to Plasma's integration with the browser and it disappeared with some browser extensions! WTF!?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Starting from kde6 expect more bugs on X11 than on wayland, my recommendation; switch to wayland.
      Yesterday My pc was on for 12+ hours a lot of them being iddle, 0 crashes, 0 problems and dolphin works fine no problems with the panel.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'll just wait till either kde6 gets fixed or someone forks it trinity style (just more active)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My recommendation, switch away from from KDE for defrauding their donors.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        KDE6 made the X session less stable but the Wayland session can't even run Gimp without breaking (menus don't close or open properly, they freeze mid-animation or simply don't react if animations are disabled).

        So now KDE has a broken, unstable X session and a Wayland session only capable of properly displaying Wayland apps.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          steps to reproduce? I used gimp yesterday without issues but just a few basic things.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >my recommendation; switch to wayland.
        Higher chance people will just stop using KDE plasma or Linux in general.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        See

        My system is experiencing a memory leak after this update.
        But it only occurs in Wayland, in X11 it is normal, but it still consumes about 2 GB on cold boot.

        I initially tested on Wayland, but ran into more problems.

        I gave up on Plasma 6, I'm going to migrate to other DE.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >lintroons are unironically counting uptime/stability in HOURS now
        dude my windows server 2022 PC does 90+ days of uptime without issue (i restart for security updoots by that time), and i assume same is for LTSC

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah lets have 90+ days of uptime in something i installed yesterday!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I've managed greater than 90 days on Linux. I don't use gayland. I never will. It's not worth the headache or hassle. Using gayland does not solve any of the problems you have with X. Instead you got a broken buggy mess and the longest open beta of any display server and non existent standard. For a project that bills itself as "just a protocol" it should be easy to standardize. But it doesn't have a standard and probably never will.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i believe you but wayland or not i've experienced and seen a lot of issues with both gnome and plasma, memory leaks, crashes. windows uses less ram and is more stable than the these DEs at this point

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Use window managers, not desktop environments

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            xfce is sort of a DE and doesn't have these problems, but that's really besides the point

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Have you seen those problems with xfce?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            no, as i said

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    GNOME keeps winning.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We finally get HDR support on Linux but XWayland is so fricking busted on Plasma that 80% of apps don't display correctly anway. It's always 1 step forward and 50 steps back with Wayland. Might as well stick with Windows for anything remotely multimedia related.

    X devs can either adjust their protocol to permit working with HDR or I'm just not going to use Linux at this point. I don't think the Linux desktop environment has ever been worse at keeping up with actual display technology than it is today. FreeSync doesn't work over HDMI either, like is this some kind of joke? I don't use HDMI but that is absurd.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      is HDR that nice anon? I'm thinking about an HDR display but I don't really see the difference on my HDR phone screen .

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > but I don't really see the difference on my HDR phone screen .
        It depends, there are several versions of hdr and half of thrm are marketing bullshit that manufacturers demanded so they could sell substandard products as hdr.
        Proper hdr is great, but it's really only going to come into play with content that is hdr color mapped. Thr various dim ass "hdr" implementations are basically worthless.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Computer monitor HDR has definitely been improving lately, I just bought a new HDR monitor and the improvement is significant. I'm glad we are finally getting proper HDR support on desktop and honestly it makes all the downsides to KDE and Wayland worth enduring. Finally feely like the Linux Desktop is usable, now we just need all these decrepit X apps to become Wayland compliant.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >we are finally getting proper HDR support
            I'd suggest that you read past the headlines.
            https://zamundaaa.github.io/wayland/2023/12/18/update-on-hdr-and-colormanagement-in-plasma.html
            HDR and color profiling and management support is nowhere near complete, even for wayland apps, and is likely to stay that way for several years. What KDE is doing has essentially nothing to do with the needs of people that need a fully managed color pipeline, it's only a way to enforce a profile on this or that app like gamescope.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Computer monitor HDR has definitely been improving lately, I just bought a new HDR monitor and the improvement is significant. I'm glad we are finally getting proper HDR support on desktop and honestly it makes all the downsides to KDE and Wayland worth enduring. Finally feely like the Linux Desktop is usable, now we just need all these decrepit X apps to become Wayland compliant.

            fyi
            >now we just need all these decrepit X apps to become Wayland compliant
            Those decrepit X apps are the only way to color profile your wayland session. No, they don't work in xwayland and likely never will.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no. If windows 11 is any indication, it looks like shit. Maybe the example videos I saw were shit. idk.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          btw I use Linux, but my work machine is win11 so I tested it on work machine.

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Thinking about updating my Arch install to KDE 6. IS it worth it? Should I do it?
    I don't really use any extensions or weird shit like so many people apparently do. I have Latte dock but 2bh I barely use it anyway.

    My main concerns, other than it actually working (lol), are window shading, scroll on desktop top switch desktops, and uhh.. well single click to open but that's just a setting.

    i5 4590k + 750Ti so it's an old computer hope it works out.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I did it today and honestly I regret it. Seriously thinking about switching to debian 12 to keep KDE 5.27 for the next two or three years. Was extremely smooth and stable on x11/nvidia while 6.0 is buggy on wayland and laggy as hell on x11.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I went ahead and did it. Using Wayland right now, it's semi usable, but shit like Krita is a flickery mess still. Haven't tried going back to X yet, I hope it's not fricked.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Also whatever the screen brightness widget thing is, it's completely fricked. Certainly doesn't do anything remotely like what I assume is the intent.
          No matter what it sends my second monitor to 0 brightness, and my primary monitor just keeps changing brightness and color temp in a weird random pulsating manner.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Finally, I found something broken krita global menu is not showing, kde+wayland (but I'm not experiencing flickering)

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > undocumented APIs
    > impossible to reach pages on api.kde.org
    > search through internet posts to find how people do a thing
    > come to realize the thing is since been deprecated
    > search through KDE source code to find how to do a thing
    > uncertainty if thing is meant to be used externally
    > probably going to be deprecated again anyways
    > contemplate sepuku
    The whole KDE project is autism.
    The kind that grinds out code night and day
    and assumes everyone can read their mind.

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wayland is a disaster. I will never migrate to it. I am going to use x11 until the day I die

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What's wrong with it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wayland is fine in a strictly wayland environment but as soon as an X app tries to open a second window you can give up all hope, most Linux software is not Wayland ready and many devs are saying their apps will never be Wayland ready, meaning XWayland has to carry all of that weight and inevitably breaks because it can not cover every X function without breaking Wayland protocol. Wayland is fracturing the Linux desktop environment.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Can you give some specifics? something i can try to see how broken it is?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I mean a well-known KDE issue is all XWayland apps are blurry due to scaling problems. Another example off the top of my head is Godot has to be run in single-window mode or XWayland bugs out when you try to open the file picker, which is another known issue that the dev team seems to be struggling to fix.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well my whole browser is running on xwayland, I also tried with gimp as someone said was having problems and haven't noticed anything blurry, is this an issue with 4k panels or something?
            I also opened and closed the filpicker about a dozen times without it failing.
            I don't have godot installed so that's the only thing I didn't tested.

            Can't all the problems be tracked down to shitty drivers? I've heard lot of people having issues with nvidia and amd, intel was also shit on kde5+wayland, it was not even worth trying, but since kde 6 it just works.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          SimpleScreenRecorder not being available for wayland and no good alternatives existing is already a deal breaker for me.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            KDE added screen recording directly into Spectacle now, it work on wayland

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            if I can't use the tools I want why shouldn't I just go to crapple or winblows? I *will* use SSR because it's a great tool, and wayland can go frick itself, it offers no advantages to me, just bugs and headaches.

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >use terminal to configure the system
    >stable toolset, same commands work for years if not decades
    >add a ((desktop environment)) on top because muh convenience
    >same tools hidden in menus
    >menus change every major release at will of a developer's toe because new is always better
    >more code = higher risk of shit breaking
    Just WHY are you using DEs? Are you masochists?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because i'm not a terminal autist

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >wayland session boots to a black screen

    summon session from grub

    >plasmoids are incompatible

    i have no idea what you´re talking about

    >taskbar panel height is YUGE

    adjust taskbar

    >the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor

    look for auto aim assist whatever it is called in KDE

    >Frankly it's a disaster.

    manageable maybe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >hmm, I am being fricked in the ass
      >it is uncomfortable...
      >it is not a dragon dildo this time though
      >you can also relax your butthole a bit more
      >it is not a disaster
      >yeah, it's manageable
      What a COPE holy shit lmao

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >double click browser to fullscreen
    >task bar is at the top until I reboot KDE
    What did... uh... the K Desktop Environment Version Six mean by this?

  65. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > he "upgraded"
    I'm sorry. I always write how you shouldn't until LTS.

  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All these gays crying because their shit meme distro completely fricks an in place upgrade from kde 5 to kde 6
    Do a fresh install you morons. You should know by that that major version upgrades never fricking work on shitnix.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what the absolute frick are you talking about?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >what the absolute frick are you talking about?
        People upgrading their arch installs from plasma 5 to plasma 6 and then being surprised that they get a broken buggy mess dropped in their laps.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You are a technologically illiterate winbaby.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No i understand damn well that linux shidds and fards when you try and do major version updates of DEs. For evidence see the hundreds of posts in this very thread.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My debian 11 stable to debian 12 stable upgrade worked flawlessly, thoughever.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >My debian 11 stable to debian 12 stable upgrade worked flawlessly, thoughever.
        Yeah no shit, this is an arch babby thread, zthey can't even update kde without it making a mess see.

        yeah i noticed have all the leftover kde 5 packages laying around
        how am i supposed to clean that shit up?
        what a mess

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    imagine updooting

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lmfaoing my ass off rn.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For most people plasma 6 does nothing. I've never installed more pointless big update or "major release" or anything like that in my life... Should've been on AUR until it's fixed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Arch should've kept both 5 and 6 in the repo concurrently, allowing users to replace one with the other at their convenience (before eventually dumping 5), instead of just dropping it in because KDE said it's ready.

        It almost looks like they tried to, as well, but then bungled it at the last minute.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It is trivial to install 5.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yeah i noticed have all the leftover kde 5 packages laying around
          how am i supposed to clean that shit up?
          what a mess

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wow arch is a clown tinker troony distro that doesn't do any of the work that other distro mantiners do to ensure a smoth transition with software like this.
    Protip, purge kde 5 completely before installing 6. Linux does not just work with shit like this.

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cope

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sigh, you're using KDE Neon aren't you?

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Krash test dummies your response please?
    >disable the floating panel
    NO!!!!
    >use the application launcher
    NO!!!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      hehe it's doing a funny dance. I like it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      frick sake's man why can't we just have a stable de

      jesus christ

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        if he was on wayland the most notable part would be that he managed to record it

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    archbros, I get nodejs npm package conflicts when I try to update AUR packages. Do I just need to wait for them to be updated by the maintainers?

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >>the negative space below the floating taskbar is not actually a click target, so you can't throw your cursor
    This works on my machine.

  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe I considered switching from xfce4.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What a coincidence, Plasma 6 convinced me to finally make the switch. To xfce4.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What a coincidence, Plasma 6 convinced me to finally make the switch. To xfce4.

      >xfce4
      At least use MATE if you're going to be a contrarian. Xfce is no longer even the most lightweight DE and is basically just GNOME Lite now. KDE mogs the shit out of it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don't try to fricking sell me KDE, I used it for years. I know shit worked. But Plasma 6 is fricking broken. I'm not coming back until they've sobered up and even then, I'm not sure I want to. Because it'll only happen again. Behind the excellent GUI settings there's a seedy underbelly of poorly documented Qt cruft. Every time I dig a little, I find rot. Now I'm watching the floor sag and thinking it's time to get the frick out while I still can.

        Feel free to make your case for whichever unmaintained GNOME knockoff is better than the other and I'll try to give a shit. I even tried that fricking sway and hyperland garbage yesterday, I'm open to moronic ideas

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Plasma 6 will be fine by the next point release. A few bugs aside, like lacking blur and shade/unshade, I appreciate all the changes made and it feels a lot less 'finnicky' than KDE 5. Overall this does feel like they're still moving in the right direction. I still remember when KDE 4 came out, which was a nightmare that forced me to Unity for a while (albeit with mostly KDE applications like Dolphin over Nautilus and Kate before Gedit). KDE 5 was like a normalization of all of KDE 4's whackiness and 6 feels like normalizing it even further (like just using the system's icon theme in the panel rather than having it forced by the plasma theme)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The lack of blur is in a kvantum theme?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            no i think it's a kwin bug. it makes transparent themes a hassle as it kills readability to be distracted by any window underneath. You don't really need blur/transparent themes but it feels like it's a bit of an expectation by now. I wish I didn't need Kvantum at all and Breeze would just do transparency by default.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Check real quick if you are using kvantum, if you are try with kvantum-git or wait for next release.
            I'm on kde 6.0.1

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ah that looks neat; I'm building kvantum-git right now, thanks

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >At least use MATE if you're going to be a contrarian. Xfce is no longer even the most lightweight DE and is basically just GNOME Lite now. KDE mogs the shit out of it.
        i remember you, you're utterly delusional. i'll deboonk the shit out of this when tbharchive search goes online again

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >At least use MATE if you're going to be a contrarian. Xfce is no longer even the most lightweight DE and is basically just GNOME Lite now. KDE mogs the shit out of it.
        i remember you, you're utterly delusional. i'll deboonk the shit out of this when tbharchive search goes online again

        xfeces ain't light

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >https://old.reddit.com/r/xfce/comments/kb0d87/i_compared_the_ram_use_of_15_desktop_environments/gffbzzr/
          flawed test methology. this redditor used xubuntu for his xfce minimums which includes and loads all sort of bloat plugins to xfce on start. i made a comparison in a clean devuan install on a virtual machine with the minimal metapackages for all three xfce, plasma and others, and this is all corroborated by anyone with experience and a fricking brain but we'll have to wait for tbharchive to be up again.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        xfeces ain't light

        What the actual frick is this gaslight. Plasma uses well over 1 GB in basic use for me.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it's the truth
          xfeces being lightweight and kde being heavy is an old 2012 meme

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >not disabling ak*nadi

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >not disabling this or that
            Trying to avoid 1 gorillion KDE dependencies when installing something is already walking on eggshells. Plasma is a literal virus that leaves trails on your OS install forever.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >sudo pacman -S plasma-desktop
            Doesn't even install Konsole or Dolphin.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the point is that it's not fair to make such comparisons when you include optional features that other DEs lack and are not in any way essential
            akonadi is KDE's PIM service and whether it's installed by default or not depends on the distro, xfce doesn't have any such service

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, screenshot your Plasma RAM usage. I'm waiting.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            top was run on tty before starting plasma, bottom is after
            [user@arch ~]$ free -h
            total used free shared buff/cache available
            Mem: 23Gi 1,6Gi 17Gi 338Mi 4,8Gi 21Gi
            Swap: 23Gi 0B 23Gi
            [user@arch ~]$ free -h
            total used free shared buff/cache available
            Mem: 23Gi 2,1Gi 16Gi 438Mi 5,1Gi 20Gi
            Swap: 23Gi 0B 23Gi

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >a basic plasma install uses 500+ mib
            that's not counting the inevitable memory leaks, krashes and such but that's still 300+ mib more than a xfce install that is functionally the same

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >inevitable memory leaks
            literally never happened to me
            >krashes
            at worst plasmashell crashes and the taskbar disappears for a few seconds, which happens infrequently anyway
            the actual window manager is very stable
            >but that's still 300+ mib more than a xfce install that is functionally the same
            sure but you were saying that a basic plasma installation uses "well over 1 GB" which is clearly not true, you're probably not getting to 1 GB even with the PIM

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >literally never happened to me
            gave plasma 5 a spin a few years ago, and similar to gnome (but not as bad) it bloated at least multiple hundred mib after a week of use. from about 700 mib total to 1100-1200 iirc. this wasn't a very minimal installation though, but it was reasonable
            >at worst plasmashell crashes and the taskbar disappears for a few seconds, which happens infrequently anyway
            not an excuse. the fact that krashde plasma has a hot-plugging system to deal with its own instability is laughable. and i definitely experienced more debilitating krashes than that
            >you were saying
            not him

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the fact that krashde plasma has a hot-plugging system to deal with its own instability
            because the DE crashing should bring down the entire system like on winblows, right?
            lol. lmao even.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >because the DE crashing should bring down the entire system like on winblows, right?
            difference is that the windows DE never crashes (note: not interested in your anecdotal experience on a consumer goyslop version with the app store)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the windows DE never crashes
            AAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
            you should do standup comedy, anon!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            anon, i've had to restart explorer.exe maybe 2 times in my lifetime. if windows completely dies it's your hardware 99,999% of the time

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >in my lifetime
            you must be 18 to post here.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i'm 25

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so, you never used XP? because the DE crashed all the fricking time, and it took everything with it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >so, you never used XP?
            of course i have. but not as any sort of poweruser. web browsing, games, documents, whatever. SP1 and 2. i don't even remember it crashing for any reason on my shitty dell optiplex, in fact
            never used vista. the very few times i had to restart explorer.exe were on windows 7 and early windows 10

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            back in the day I was actually considering using KDE on windows, it used to be cross-platform to that degree. I partially transitioned to linux when XP was killed, and permanently when 7 was starting to get force upgraded to 8, and I've been a happy linuxgay ever since, most modern games are hot garbage anyway.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so what did you mean by the xp DE "crashed all the fricking time"? IBM et al. still use it on their factory floors
            i tried using linux on my main desktop for years, and while i found debian testing xfce was the most and comfortable at the time, it just wasn't sustainable for a million different reasons. i now use alpine linux on my laptop (xfce) and servers, and openbsd also for servers and networking. while my pc is windows server. slightly curious to know what you've used over the years

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >IBM et al. still use it on their factory floors
            they don't use pre-SP1, do they?
            >slightly curious to know what you've used over the years
            as a kid, Mandrake (yeah I'm old). my default has been different ubuntu flavors, antiX, now Devuan (stable), and at work I used Debian, RHEL (not as desktop, duh), CentOS, OpenSuse, even Arch (don't remember what subdistro). as for DE, I really liked Unity after they introduced locally integrated menus, and my choice was naturally KDE as I can replicate most aspects of it, but when I have to deal with super potato PCs I either go with LXQt or even JWM (especially on antiX).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Did it? I used ME way past its expiry date, and by comparison XP was rock stable.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Some program could crash explorer.exe.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I used ME way past its expiry date
            we installed ME one time out of morbid curiosity. mind you, that computer was never allowed on the internet, and we didn't install anything extra, just what came with the install, yet it managed to completely brick itself in 4 days.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the windows DE never crashes
            pffflmfao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            On my laptop explorer has like a 1/4 chance of crashing every time I try to right click on something and going to "open with".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Windows 11?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            10

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            nta but I use kmail... söyzilla can frick right off

  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Plasma 6 is a monumental frickup the likes of which hasn't been seen in quite some time

  77. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >go to https://www.vsynctester.com/
    >move your cursor anywhere on the screen
    >KWin starts dropping frames
    I love Plasma 6!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm on 5 with X11, and I see it too, but it's not nearly as bad as yours.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      only got one every few seconds on my shitty t530

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Should I kms now?
      Also I can open terminal from Dolphin context menu for whatever reason.
      I hope things get better soon(tm).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I can't open*

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that's a very interesting shape on the blue plot, like / / / / / / / / /

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Works on my machine in both wayland and x session perfectly, I have AyyMD with freesync though.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I have AyyMD with freesync though.
        Same. Wayland only shits itself hard, when i use hdmi to play a movie on the tv. X11 just werks.

  78. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have to turn my monitor off and on to avoid a permanent black screen when I get back to my computer

  79. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is there a way to install multiple DEs and not have it absolutely frick things up? I think I saw somewhere someone say if you use multiple user profiles you can install different DEs that way.
    I'm on kde 6 and I really like it, but I'd like to try other options.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you just want to try things, consider doing a system restore point with something like Timeshift.
      Just install whatever to try and you can just roll back without the package manager woes.

  80. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ban jeets from KDE and other projects, honestly just ban them from the internet alltogether and you'll see even mac and windows become usable.

  81. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is hyprland i good wayland compositor? does it suffer from the same issues as plasma 6?

  82. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have the same issues with X11@KDE 5 on Debian (screen freezes or goes black randomly for no reason) due to bullshit drivers and because debian uses vanilla kernel unlike manjaro

  83. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >try to screen record a rectangular region with spectacle
    >black screen
    What the actual frick is wrong with KDE? There is clearly no testing done of new features.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >laughs in SimpleScreenRecorder on X11

  84. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Stay with KDE 5.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why didn't you post this 3 days ago

  85. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Both KDE6 and Wayland are not ready yet. At least on Arch people can downgrade

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I will stick it out. I need to be on plasma 6 and Wayland so devs take note and make it more stable

  86. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is this a dolphin bug or is it my theme?
    also is shift/ctrl+drag (move/copy) not working for anyone else?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kde 6.0.1 wayland
      >is this a dolphin bug or is it my theme?
      Using sweet theme, I've enabled it and it's also happening to me.
      >is shift/ctrl+drag (move/copy) not working for anyone else?
      shift/ctrl+drag seems to be working fine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >shift/ctrl+drag
        well, I just installed kvantum-git and that works again
        the other one's not really a big deal, I was just curious

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If someone is using the default theme I would like to know too.

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