If discord sucks, what could be an alternative?

If discord sucks, what could be an alternative?

Nothing Ever Happens Shirt $21.68

UFOs Are A Psyop Shirt $21.68

Nothing Ever Happens Shirt $21.68

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You could always go back to skype

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      forehead

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      forehead

      reddit

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That song/show was a banger

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want to sex her

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Skype but unbloated I would

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      troony

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is she smiling at me? Is she laughing at me? Am I funny-looking? Is she planning something? This girl makes me nervous, I don't trust her.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          FRICK OFF

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        NEVER RELAX

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      reddit

      *cums on her forehead* hehehehehehe

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Constantly switching from proprietary chat host is an endless game. I saw everyone go to Skype and then leave for discord, I've been watching people leave to guilded now, but they'll leave that once it gets bad too.

    The only end game is people hosting an xmpp address with who they like and chat apps just being a front end client for their account. All current xmpp clients are fricking ass though

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have always been using Mumble with my friends, until discord came around.
      Only normalgays used Skype.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. Crapification is inevitable. You don't own your community, and it will be squeezed when the company is forced to attempt to become profitable. Then it will be lost when the company eventually dies.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Element if it wasn't designed by robots disguised as autists

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IRC
    XMPP

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >IRC
      Schizo chat, KYS

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      IRC doesnt have voice chat though. Discord is nice because you can have text, image, videos, and hop into voice.

      https://i.imgur.com/JdokGnK.jpg

      If discord sucks, what could be an alternative?

      Matrix is an encrypted alternative, there are a bunch of different clients that can be used for that protocol such as element.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >IRC doesnt have voice chat though
        no. all you need is text.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          some of us have friends we play games with and most games have worse voice chat quality than discord does. Being able to share images is also very nice.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >some of us have friends we play games with and most games have worse voice chat quality than discord does
            ever heard of TeamSpeak or Mumble?
            >Being able to share images is also very nice.
            of course cumbrains defend this.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >TeamSpeak or Mumble?
            teamspeak was worse than discord was, theres a reason everyone left it for discord. I havent looked at it in years
            >of course cumbrains defend this.
            youre literally on an image board. A website specifically for sharing text along with images. Go frick yourself moron

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            TeamSpeak has improved greatly.
            >youre literally on an image board
            Why are you bringing up image boards now? I'm talking about text chat, you dumb Black person.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why are you bringing up image boards now?
            because discord is more than just text. It's very nice to be able to use images whether its with internet weirdos or your actual friends.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >ever heard of [not IRC]?
            yup, exactly

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm probably the only person here with actual friends and not random ERP groups. We use Discord for convenience (meaning it's even useable on Xbox) and ease of use.
            No, you're not invited.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That is also why i use discord. I'm not in discords with any people i dont know irl. I tried getting them to move to a matrix server but they dont care about things being encrypted and dont want change.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >ome of us have friends we play games with and most games have worse voice chat quality than discord does
            Not related to software development, which is the main issue of people migrating to discord.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't there that Rocket.chat thing?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      As long as you don't let them con you into any of their "premium" features, it's great.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alternative to being a homosexual is not sucking dicks. Try that, OP.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Discord doesn’t suck, its userbase does.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      being unable to have DMs happening while still watching a server in another window is a fricking annoying flaw imo.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        lets start with the fact that they PURPOSELY disallow you from opening multiple tabs with their site IN A BROWSER

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          they do? I can on mine

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's spyware

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Discord doesn’t suck
      Yes it does, they literally sell all your data and chat logs

      Guilded has spent years trying to be Discord.

      guilded.gg
      same as discord, literally, nitro features are free, just needs a wider adoption

      >Guilded
      Why would you replace proprietary slop with other proprietary slop?
      Seriously just use Matrix/Element it has all the features and is foss and interoperable

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Matrix/Element
        Used this for a year with my friends, until we realised it was shit.
        Do they have native e2ee screensharing yet?
        how is there alternative to servers now, spaces was such an unintuitive way to group things.

        It's "modular" or whatever, but it's just unusable.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          (me)
          >native e2ee screensharing
          I'm not saying discord has this btw

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Me and my friends have been using matrix for 5+ years.
          It's very good and perfectly usable. The new spaces features is a perfect implementation.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Can you set the channels to have a set manual order, consistent between users now?

            I remember the default used to just be "most recently changed at the top"

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Element only has alphabetical and recency ordering, but you also have a favorites category inside the space.
            Use a client that implements what you want. If none exist, this is trivial to implement as matrix allows you to publish arbitrary as room state events.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            xmpp better

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Do they have native e2ee screensharing yet?
          Yes

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They showcased that at a conference live I recall, relatively recently. Had a couple hundred people.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Me and my friends have been using matrix for 5+ years.
        It's very good and perfectly usable. The new spaces features is a perfect implementation.

        I've tried running a discord-style "server" on Matrix.
        Channels not being ordered is annoying if you have more than 3-4 of them. Channels are not easily mass-joinable by new users; they have to join each channel individually. Channels cannot be organised into categories; spaces only have one big list of channels. Subspaces exist but they're a MESS.
        Voice calls are annoying compared to the Discord UX of "voice channels". Jitsi is also unusable for streaming, prioritising picture quality over framerate when the connection is poor.
        Moderation across a space is horrendous. Being a space admin does not grant you admin over the channels in the space. You cannot remove channels from a space: only detach them. You cannot execute ANY moderation actions space-wide, such as banning or kicking a user: you have to do it individually for every channel in the space.
        Yes, you CAN work with this. You CAN keep moderator permissions manually synced across every channel in the space. You CAN go through and ban users across every space manually. New users CAN look through the space and click "join" on every channel. People CAN join a jitsi call together. Perhaps the only thing people trully CANNOT do is actually stream to each other passably (a pretty big usecase when hanging out in VC and playing games).
        But it's so horridly clunky and frictionful that it is not a viable replacement.

        Spaces are nothing more than a listing of independent Matrix rooms. They have no unifying features that would allow you to treat the rooms inside the space as a single whole. It is a slapdash workaround that has its usecases, sure, but is in no way, shape or form a replacement for Discord or even for a personal IRC server. Matrix, at its core, is designed to be used with single, independent rooms; gathering a list of those rooms and calling it a "space" does not do anything at all to make Matrix more suitable to being used as a collection of related sub-rooms.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Also to add, I know that under the current Matrix design, things like "space admin automatically having admin across all channels in the space" would not be possible because channels exist independently, so you can for example bring existing channels into the space, and I think channels can even be in multiple spaces simultaneously? So this would totally break the permission model.

          But that's exactly my problem; I don't want to bring in a bunch of independent channels into my space, or the ability to then "detach" channels from my space and make them independent. I want my space to intrinsically consist of several intrinsically "owned" channels. It would need a complete rearchitecturing of how spaces and channels currently work, yes, and that's my entire point.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've solved all of these issues with a bot

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Who needs all this shit tho? Seriously you sound like an autist and you just "want" these "features" because you are already used to them from discord. Nobody wants to join multiple chats about the same fricking topic or community. It was shit in discord, it is shit in telegram and it would be shit in matrix.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Depends what you're doing. If you're just playing video games with friends, then yeah, one chat is enough. If you have any kind of project though, having different discussion topics is pretty likely.
            Even on IRC, most projects will often have several channels, such as support, dev chat, and general chat. And if you're spinning out some sub-project, you may often want a separate chat for it rather than cluttering the main rooms.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >who needs this
            we need this, Black person
            this is why people use discord
            because it has all that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, I'm pretty sure Discord sucks.
      No read receipts, no encryption.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >no read receipts
        good, worst fricking feature of any messenger

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Have you ever considered that it's nice to know when people have seen what you've sent

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I have but I don't want them to know whether I've seen what they've sent or not
            so don't care how nice it is, I disable it on whatsapp (thankfully it lets you)

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >trusting whatsapp/gaybook
            Next you'll tell me that you worship Zuckerberg because dumbfricks like you trust him?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fair enough. Bad to be forced, iffy to "disable it for you if you disable it for them," still a really nice feature all around that's apparently too modern for Dicksore

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Datcord

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    stop being social

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Element if it wasn't overrun with moronic, cartoon watching, neckbearded troony homosexuals

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Selfhost 3CX and only talk to irl frens

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    icq

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Element with self-hosted server (Dendrite).

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guilded has spent years trying to be Discord.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like LINE, but that's because I'm a japanon
    Only downside is it doesn't have moderation, which is ok for small groups but hard for larger groups

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Line has had too many romance scam accounts. How to deal with it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Never been a problem for me
        You probably put your phone number on a website you shouldn't have and it ended up on a spam list

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't Line the same as Whatsapp for Japan in the sense it shows your phone number to everyone on a group? That sucks.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Japs use Discord plenty for larger chats, probably because of that.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Retroshare for oldschool
    Mumble for modernity

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Revolt

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Something that actually has the most basic requirements like directly connecting to another user and file sharing; instead of filtering all chat through some troony's logging server.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just setup some sort of shared drive or something on a server. For chat just run some sort of MU*.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Skype should never been abandoned

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    guilded.gg
    same as discord, literally, nitro features are free, just needs a wider adoption

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      $ ar p Guilded-Linux.deb data.tar.xz | tar -xOJf - ./opt/Guilded/guilded | strings | grep -i electron | wc -l
      2418

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >crying about electron
        its just a lot easier to make UIs with it, so you're gonna see more and more until we get a decent GUI framework which can match it
        being able to use css for gui is too good, I still remember using wpf or the java trash gui lib, making the simplest ui changes was painful

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you do know roblox owns guilded, right?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes, and tencent owns roblox thus by extension china
        just like the us/israel duo owns discord
        most foss alternatives are too autistic and likely trying to replace irc or another foss alternatives
        there really arent that many actually trying to compete with discord, i've seen someone mention rocket.chat but from the looks of it, is corpo as shit which makes me think it's not really ready for the mass adoption of it just like discord, that would leave very little real alterntives, perhaps revolt and guilded

        if you want foss alternatives to be popular then learn 2 code and make them normiefriendly, irc was once popular because there weren't other viable alternatives, and the main power of these apps is it's wide adoption, once an app Has communities already cultured in it, it becomes one of its main features, It's not dead as frick, even if it is a better alternative, just like guilded is the better alternative to discord

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i just reread the thread, XMPP host and whatever other client as frontend seems like the best way fosstist has to win, and sounds based af

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Then you run into the fediverse problem. Finding a server to create an account on some server that can shut down at anytime.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why can't telegram replace discord?
    both have chat group features and voice channels(I think)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      mobile number sign up

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do they even need your phone number anyway? It's glowBlack person tier requirement when emails exist

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        and? you speak as if discord was the apex of privacy. both are glowBlack person shitholes but one of them has far fewer troons, guess which one it is

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          mobile number sign up

          doesn't matter, requiring a phone first installation kills it as a competitor
          all you need for discord is any computer (phone included) that can run it, not the case with telegram

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Telegram Desktop

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        newsflash, discord needs a phone number too.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          no it fricking doesnt you moron. i dont have a phone so discord is one of the only places i can call/text my sister. whatsapp, telegram, line, literally sells themselves as a mobile service replacement yet still requires a service. so dumb.

          i understand there're better discord alternatives like revolt and what-not, but it needs to be popular enough for most people to use it on their own in the first place.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    irc of course

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The alternative is not using it. Like a normal person.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    AOL Instant Messenger

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sovl.
      How do I install? apt install aol?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I miss Windows Live messenger.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        its called msn

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, it isn't. That was another service.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Someone eventually will make a better trimmed down version of it. People will switch, then the process will repeat.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    telegram hello

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IRC + phpbb forums. This problem was already solved.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only real answer.
      You can also add that mumble had voice chat covered.
      Zoomers have a need to change for the sake of change.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's MSN Messenger. This is where instant messaging peaked.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yep

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You know what, you're right, that one was pretty comfy. And I don't think it's just nostalgia talking: it was low on resources, did the job, didn't get in the way...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Man, that looks good. Better than

      AOL Instant Messenger

      in my opinion; too much beige.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what good is an alternative if the people i care about use discord

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cultivate schizophrenia and talk to your tulpas over notepad

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do it suck?

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Vencord, betterdiscord

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing that is really that complete. If you just want voice chat, mumble is great if not the best. If you like to text chat and video call, element/matrix is a better fit. Rocket.chat is also nice but federation is an issue. Even telegram could be a replacement but also has privacy issues since you need a phone number and a non rooted phone to register.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I miss the days of teamspeak / mumble.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty much any alternative would be better if people actually started using it. Right now all the interesting communities are on discord.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ventrilo

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    maybe a wild card but I use signal to talk to some friends that have it
    it has a username feature so no showing phone numbers anymore
    calls with screenshare is possible too

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    TeamSpeak 5

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does Matrix or Guilded realistically offer anything different or better than Discord? As far as I noticed it just looks like the same thing. Really makes me hate how all programs have become so homogenized because of the Eternal Minimalist

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    hugboxes

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Telnet. But with a modern twist.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is none.
    >Matrix
    The best FOSS group chat client, but has awful channel grouping features, making it basically unusable for a multi-channel community group.
    And the client situation is also awful: you're pretty much forced to use Element because almost everything else is either abandonware or beta/alpha that doesn't implement tons of features. And the few competitors to Element that are mostly feature-complete are all even more bloated slow electronware than Element itself.
    Federation can also often harm more than hurt, especially when it comes to moderation. At least you can turn it off, but it's also such a big selling point of matrix that it's honestly annoying that they can't just make it work properly.
    E2ee also breaks regularly.
    >XMPP
    I haven't tried it for quite a while, but the situation with client/server standardisation was pretty awful last I checked. It may or may not be better than Matrix.
    >IRC
    It's perfect for what it is, but what it is is a tiny subset of features people expect from a modern chat.
    >Telegram, Signal, whatever the frick
    Most have terrible UIs for, again, multi-channel groups, and often have phone-first signups and mediocre desktop features (such as streaming/screensharing).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Multi-channel groups are bloat

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      swap the icons, add IRC and matrix and other shit to your midwit category and then it's unironically correct

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        t. 34%

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you honestly think the morons of America know what mumble is?

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The closest alternatives are probably Revolt, Guilded or even Rocket. The most "secure", relatively close, alternative is probably Element. It most likely will not replace Discord though since it's too autistic for normies to ever migrate to.

    And on the phone, there's apps like Telegram, or better, Signal, that don't really try to be Discord alternatives, but instead WhatsApp alternatives.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, the whatsapp alternative space is thriving. Even though not all of them are perfect, even shit like telegram is gonna be better than whatsapp. And they're widely used by normies too; my grandparents switched to signal completely as a surprise to me.

      Meanwhile on the desktop, the platform where normally FOSS software was always vastly more available than on phones, somehow the chat landscape is horribly behind.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It probably has to do with two important factors. First off, normies tend to be fairly ambivalent to the app they're using in order to communicate with others. In other words, if they wish to maintain contact, they'll have 3, 4 or even 5 different apps just to keep in touch with some person they care about. This stands in stark contrast to the approach autists like us have: we see it as inefficient to have 5kb more on our hard disk just for one person. And so we cut out the social contact instead. Second off, it's got to do with the 1-on-1 nature of the chat apps such as WhatsApp, whereas platforms like Discord are group or even server oriented. On the former, we try to talk to people that we already know and add manually. It serves to have 1-on-1 conversations first and foremost, and groups are an afterthought. On the other hand side, Discord is a platform that allows us to "discover" new people, enter servers, communities or the like, and the 1-on-1 chats/dms are the afterthought. This leads to a sort of tribalism mindset where leaving the platform (here: Discord) makes it seem like we're missing out.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >This stands in stark contrast to the approach autists like us have: we see it as inefficient to have 5kb more on our hard disk just for one person.
          But this isn't about "us autists", it's about normies sitting in Discord.
          Besides, I know multiple people who have both Discord and Element (and regularly use both). Some autists also have e.g. Tox or XMPP, or reguarly sit in IRC channels too. Doesn't change the fact that none of those things are viable alternatives to Discord itself, feature-wise.
          >Second off, it's got to do with the 1-on-1 nature of the chat apps such as WhatsApp, whereas platforms like Discord are group or even server oriented.
          Most of this here is you describing the difference, which yes is pretty big but that's why most of the FOSS 1-on-1 apps are poorly suited as Discord replacements. It doesn't really explain WHY there's no FOSS app that's group-oriented in the same way Discord is (or rather, why the few that exist are all garbage for various reasons - see e.g. my rant on Matrix above).

          >This leads to a sort of tribalism mindset where leaving the platform (here: Discord) makes it seem like we're missing out.
          Yeah, this is kinda true. But still: for self-contained communities, it shouldn't matter which one they're on. Unless you stand by your argument that discord users would for some reason refuse to install anything else unless they can also uninstall discord at the same time, but I strongly disagree with that, because those same discord users are already going to have whatsapp, snapchat, and maybe telegram and signal installed too. (Not to mention, again, the autistis who ALREADY have something like Matrix set up, but just can't use it - even for communities where everyone is an autist, e.g. IQfy-related gaming servers - because it's so dogshit.)

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it's about normies sitting in Discord
            Hmm, I think the "normies" on Discord are still very often social outcasts or people who aren't all that integrated irl social circles, even if we, the "autists", are even less normies than them. In my mind, they're just lite versions of us.

            Actual normies would use Discord rather sparingly in tandem with other 1-on-1 apps that they would probably use more often.
            >It doesn't really explain WHY there's no FOSS app that's group-oriented in the same way Discord is
            It's a lot of (difficult) work for something that people like us aren't all that interested in. And the other problem is that autists typically don't care about aesthetics, even though aesthetics are very important. Ugly will always be drastically less popular than beautiful. I mean, just look at logos of FOSS apps. It's so over, man.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    chan

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I actually tried guilded and it seems better than viable, the only challenge now is getting everyone I know to move to it.

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why hasn't someone created a self-hosted discord (without federation or any other stupid bullshit) yet?

    Literally just need All you need is:

    - Text channels
    - Voice channels
    - Screen share if you're gangsta

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      revolt chat?

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Death.
    Death is a great alternative.
    I consider it every day.
    It's very tempting and it just werks.

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    your mother as pen friend you fricking Black person

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Discord was never an alternative to existing software. Everyone who switched just got filtered. Discord is the best. Just like fortnight. Filtered all the morons of the games / software I use. Please stay at discord if you used it.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm suprised noone mentioned Revolt yet. It's a FLOSS clone of discord. And I really mean *clone*. The UI is the same, the structure of servers and chats, pretty much everything. Has nice chat, works good and reliably, also has some ten thousand users. Major problem at the moment is that they started rewriting the audio server an eternity ago and haven't finished yet, so there goes VC. Also, they have E2EE on plan, but it'll probably take some years for that to work out, especially when you consider that the founder's amount of commits has steadily declined for quite some months.
    Now I get why noone mentioned Revolt. Sad. Really. It's a great app, fast, easy to understand, but there's just not enough development on it 🙁

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well shit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Revolt
      More Electron garbage.
      Discarded.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No E2EE on a chat client in 2024. Nice try glowBlack person

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The best alternatives to Discwerd have always existed but won't be used. People do what their friends do and lack the leadership required to improve each others lives. As such Discord will make enormous amounts of shekels from people "boosting" their "server" and increasing file upload limits, lulz.

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Matrix.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    we used to be fine with mumble and irc
    skype was P2P and was fine also
    Discord is better in allow a braindead to do a lot more, but the need for moderation that came with gave power to the wrong people and now its unbearable

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally had to go to the browser version to avoid their shitty overloaded nu GUI

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We have the same thread everyday.

    Just use mumble and hope they add persistent chat. There's no true alternatives.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you actually explore the alternatives you realise just how good discord really is

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's like asking what could be an alternative to smoking 3 packs a day. Maybe heroin? Or perhaps crack?

    The real answer is you should cease your addiction

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've never needed that shit for anything that's not a total waste of time

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Teamspeak, Mumble, Vent + irc chat

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      wat's vent?

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guilded

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    All of our options are moderated by insane people.

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just want discord but open source, encrypted, and self-hosted.

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You need to define your parameters properly.

    >pros
    ease of use
    feature sets
    >cons
    mass censorship (political censorship)
    mass snooping in private messages to bolster censorship
    troonyism at the helm
    actively trying to ban third party clients
    pozzed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      All of our options are moderated by insane people.

      Exactly. "Elements" isn't an alternative. Its the got mass censorship, snooping, troonyism, pozzed at the helm. Also less features, not that ease of use.

      The only more primitive options are mumble/teamspeak/irc but they have huge downsides

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if matrix just had stickers and a client like telegram. other than that if telegram didn't need your phone number and have servers like discord

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >have ""servers"" like discord
      Telegram very much has group chats.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        can you read esl? how come telegram is only used by foreigners

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The post itself is ESL.
          >if matrix just had stickers and a client like telegram.
          >other than that if telegram didn't need your phone number and have servers like discord
          I'm interpreting it the best I can.

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Many alternatives exist but discordians won't use them. Not enough emoji's, "server" boosting and other ADHD approved features. The real question is what would happen if you lost 100% of your friends on discord? They won't follow you to anything with even the slightest drop in ADHD features.

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't talk to anyone.

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ALTERNATIVE EXISTS. AND ITS A TELEGRAM OG IQfy GROUP
    https://t.me/g_technology

  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IRC
    all it needs is some normie-tier UI to get popular

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Can't change it cuz muh tradition!
      Managed by insane people.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >normie-tier UI
      The Lounge exists.

  70. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish I had friends
    But not on discord

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just rewrite Discord in Rust. It would be 10x faster and use 1/4 of the resources. TeamSpeak -> Trello -> Discord -> Squakjunkie

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Just rewrite Discord in Rust.
      They already use Rust in the backend.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i was under the impression is was Go and Python - where did you see that?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://discord.com/blog/why-discord-is-switching-from-go-to-rust

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            According to that they only use it across their stack in specific places not as a complete replacement, but you're right they have implemented some Rust - I was mostly thinking of improvements with getting rid of Electron entirely while simplifying the whole stack.

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >want to join my findomme's discord
    >phone number required

    frick off

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Stop being a neet and use Facebook messenger. Everyone uses Facebook.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is bait

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It now has e2ee so I no longer have any problem with it. Be more normal, please.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >e2ee
          I don't know what that is. Guess I'm more normal than you, nerd.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If privacy isn't your issue then why are you even invested in this thread

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Was just lurking and saw someone recommend facebook, which is bait

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not bait. Facebook is here to stay. Stop being a schizo, and you'll realize that now that it has end to end encryption, the messenger is good enough and it'll stay relevant for the next 20 years. I find Facebook as gross as the next person, but its messenger is a good option.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you might be right but
            >Stop being a schizo
            no, that's the source of my power

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, super good option if you have the cash to get access to everyones data

            https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/facebook-let-netflix-peek-user-dms-explosive-court-docs-claim.amp

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That was before e2ee so I really don't care

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah if you want your data man in middle attacked by the z(og)uck

            It now has e2ee so I no longer have any problem with it. Be more normal, please.

            Stop being a neet and use Facebook messenger. Everyone uses Facebook.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            What did you not understand about e2ee

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >MUH HECKTIN' UNWHOLESOME PROPIETARY SPYWARE SOFTWARE THAT USES ELECTRON!!!!1!!!!1 NOOO

    Who let the redditors in? Go outside and talk with people you know/trust in a cave or something if privacy is your top priority.

    Fricking morons, i swear.

  75. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gonna sum up every one of these "discord alternative" threads for you.

    Usually some anon recommends these 3:
    >irc
    Missing chat history, missing voice channels
    >mumble
    Missing chat history, no web clients, can't make you're own channels/room without hosting the server
    >Matrix
    Barely works and breaks constantly. Also missing voice channels.

    There are no good alternatives and their likely won't be. Discord has endless money for their infrastructure and pays massively to make the app easy to use. It's the kryptonite for most users. Easy to use and packed with great features for free. I hate discord but that's what the truth is.

    If you want something better you need to just pay at this point.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Missing chat history
      why is that a negative? for me it is a bonus dont want my text data floating on troon's computer

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then you should probably stop posting on IQfy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like

        Then you should probably stop posting on IQfy.

        says, its likely gonna be archived/logged. Might as well just have the chat history.

  76. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    irc

  77. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not that there are not alternatives.
    /soc/ and /trash/ cumbrains want to find and ERP with each other for like, an hour, so they trend towards whatever is commonly accepted, comfortable enough, and easy-to-work-with, making up for potential privacy pitfalls with appropriate mitigations. Note that there are pockets of people using Session and Telegram and whatnot, it's just not as big and you can't really do much about it.
    The hardcore brainwormed mental patients and teenagers that are in and try to get people into a million gay ""servers"" with Byzantine leadership/role structures are arguably more married to Dicksword itself than interested in the concept of a good chat/voice program. Thus, they cannot be reasoned with and the costs of getting them to move are infinite. It goes beyond the usual network effect Stockholm syndrome and I don't really know how to explain it. I can't imagine what will happen when they inevitably reveal they are going to start using their perfectly unencrypted chatlogs as LLM or marketing datasets.
    Corporate community managers and software/service maintainers fell for the post-2020 new wave rebranding of Discord as general social media. It's shit, but they want to be everywhere and don't care respectively, so it makes sense. The immediate problem is then that critical and timely updates that would usually be on a discussion board or forum may slowly become Dicksore only, which encourages people who are not even interested in Discord at all to have accounts anyway. This is why something like tg-archive that uses tokens to bridge any given server to a public page and RSS feed would probably receive a lot of appreciation (NOTE: Discord will immediately get assblasted by that, so if anyone wants to attempt it without requiring administrator integration, they should be ready for a fight)

  78. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If discord sucks, what could be an alternative?
    Spacebar for one to one replica.
    https://github.com/spacebarchat

  79. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IRC was the peak of the internet. That and MUDs. After that the internet went downhill and became degenerate

  80. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >take Mumble and IRC server
    >build electron app around it
    >add basic API for user management, settings
    >user accounts via Mumble certs synced between Mumble and IRC
    >custom message packet that sends alongside PRIVMSG for metadata, reactions, embeds, etc
    >federate users between APIs, everything else stays self hosted
    Holy shit I fixed the problem using mostly existing standards

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds good in theory. Why hasn't anyone done this?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because a developer's first instinct is to build something new and make it grandiose. And also node native code is annoying.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How much would you have to pay a developer to do something like this?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You'll need at least two, unless you get incredibly lucky and get a frontend + C++ engineer

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            So $15k for each developer? Assuming they're good (7/10)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Following up on my post , it looks like this stack will do everything
      >administration server for user account federation
      >attachments server for file sharing and link embed resolving
      >an IRCv3-compliant server for text chat
      >a Mumble server for voice
      >libOBS for screen sharing
      >stream server for screen/camera sharing
      If someone were to build out this stack, you could use one unified desktop program to recreate discord.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like a server admin nightmare with each separate thing you listed. If the UI/UX is nice, I can see the reasoning.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly it wouldn't be too bad, the idea is the administration server would have a dashboard to handle configuration of the different systems, and having a way to containerize it would make scaling/management a lil easier.
          The main focus is not reinventing the wheel, outside what's necessary to tie it together. Mumble and inspIRCd can both scale really well, mumble being the more complicated of the two to do so. Stream servers are well understood. The best part is you can do the cloud meme as most of these have AWS equivalents.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            When you put it like that, maybe you make it enticing. Hopefully its not too much of a hassle, otherwise you get the fediverse issue. Server owners acting like hall monitors because they run some complicated server keeping everything alive.

            If you go forward with this, make a github or equivalent so everyone can see progress. I've been waiting for a discord alternative since everyone left Skype.

  81. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >IRC
    I see many anons recommending IRC.
    That shit glows man, IRC isn't even encrypted.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're talking in a public chatroom, why encrypt that. Just do it on another encrypted chat app or something. Otherwise you get the mess that's matrix.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >why encrypt that.
        WOAH MAN! You almost made me blind by that glow.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There are already other encrypted private group chat solutions like xmpp. Shoehorning encryption into irc (a public chatroom) is a waste.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're talking in a public chatroom, why encrypt that. Just do it on another encrypted chat app or something. Otherwise you get the mess that's matrix.

      irc has supported SSL for a thousand years and servers can force it for connecting clients. if you're talking about admin access etc., that's a trust issue that you can solve by hosting your own server for secret club bulletins.

  82. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    when they fix voice, element

  83. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    itt seething virgins who wished they had friend to join on discord

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is that linus torvalds old pictures?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm getting mod/janny vibes from it. Stuck in the past, greasy, addicted to porn, mind warped by alcohol/other drugs, generally untrustworthy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is that linus torvalds old pictures?

      I'm getting mod/janny vibes from it. Stuck in the past, greasy, addicted to porn, mind warped by alcohol/other drugs, generally untrustworthy

      Now I remember the picture.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      People that use discord aren't friend material

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        where else you gonna voice chat while gaming or just hanging out having some drinks? It's like a group chat on steroids where you can separate subjects out as needed

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >where else you gonna voice chat while gaming or just hanging out having some drinks?
          Irl, it's called being outside.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you dont go over to someones house to play game anymore. Most games dont even support this. Some of my friends live more than an hour drive from me as well.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Disgusting.

  84. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is you homosexuals looking for alternatives.

  85. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Telegram

  86. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOO DONT USE PROPRIETARY SLOP USE FOSS
    just give up freetards, gaymers and normies aren't moving to your nerd platforms

  87. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you want a group chat service? Are you low iq?

  88. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I madevmy friends use jami

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How is it? Don't they have to be online to receive messages?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I guess. Is always running on our phones. So I guess if the phone is off and on again it gets it then

  89. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Slack.

  90. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Legally require all moderators to go through psychological evaluation every 4 months. Test their general vocabulary accuracy as well.
    I swear they don't even know what people are really saying half the time.

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *