"If God real why bad thing happen"

If God is everywhere at all times and permeates all things in creation, doesn't that imply that anything that successfully happens in the world is in fact the will of God?

>I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I the LORD do all these things

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It makes sense. The problem comes when you start using religion to run society, this kind of theology just isn't a good look

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >this kind of theology just isn't a good look

      It seems the most logical though and solves all questions of "why would God _____"

      Judging God by human morality is absolutely moronic because we could never hope to truly comprehend such a being in this lifetime

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because nobody wants to actually be a monk. Look at all the "if no god what's to stop me from stealing candy?" posts around here. It betrays the true intent.

        If you have a God that cannot be comprehended and will simply do what he would regardless of what we think is good and moral, what is to stop somebody from stealing all the candy?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    ࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇

    NEITHER GOD, NOR THE ETERNAL ENEMY, ARE DIRECT CAUSES OF EVERY SINGLE HAPPENING; THE UNIVERSE IS STOCHASTIC, AND HUMANS HAVE FREE WILL.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NEITHER GOD, NOR THE ETERNAL ENEMY

      What if there is no enemy but ourselves. Just God, and us

      • 2 weeks ago
        ࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇

        WHAT IF THERE IS NO (You), BUT ONLY A CYST IN A WOMAN'S OVARY DREAMING ABOUT BEING AN INVOLUNTARY CELIBATE ATHEIST POSTING ON A MANGANIME WEBSITE?

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thing about the problem of evil is that, if we're being real here, it's only ever discussed for the purpose of either defending or denouncing mainstream Abrahamism. This has created an interesting phenomenon where Christians will propose answers to the problem, but those answers will be completely incompatible with other Christian beliefs.
    e.g the free will argument kinda falls apart when you remember that God intervenes in human affairs in the Bible all the time.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >If God is everywhere at all times and permeates all things in creation, doesn't that imply that anything that successfully happens in the world is in fact the will of God?

    Then he is not omnibenevolent or on spectrum of human morals

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He is supreme though. God is beyond good and evil and our ever changing idea of morality

      You think God is evil, okay fine whatever. Does that magically make him stop being God and the ultimate authority?

      For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. (Romans 11:32)
      But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? (Romans 3:5-6)

      God allows evil to occur so that His ultimate reconciliation with Creation, His glory will shine that more brightly.

      For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16)

      The Fall allows God to most perfectly demonstrate His love.

      Why do Christians only ever seem to quote from the NT

      >God allows evil to occur so that His ultimate reconciliation with Creation, His glory will shine that more brightly.

      He is already infinitely glorious. He is glory.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've quoted the OT plenty of times. This does nothing to address the argument.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do Christians talk about Christ
        Million dollar question right here

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Then he is not omnibenevolent

      How would he not be, if he is the source of ALL good and ALL evil? Being the source of all things would make him the ultimate good automatically.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. (Romans 11:32)
    But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? (Romans 3:5-6)

    God allows evil to occur so that His ultimate reconciliation with Creation, His glory will shine that more brightly.

    For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16)

    The Fall allows God to most perfectly demonstrate His love.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. (Romans 11:32)
      >God allows evil to occur so that His ultimate reconciliation with Creation, His glory will shine that more brightly.
      That's like raising your kids wrong because you get a kick out of forgiving them or consoling them when they predictably go down the wrong path in life. Like literally allowing them to become shut-ins, junkies, rapists and/or prostitutes and end up in jail, just so you can stroke your ego about how all-loving and merciful you are for not abandoning them after they became subhuman trash, unlike those other parents who don't let their kids become degenerate criminals.
      It's just sick, only the most mentally ill and hysterical parents would come up with something like that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sorry I still can't get over this demented bullshit:
        >The Fall allows God to most perfectly demonstrate His love.

        >you're such a perfect loving family, your sons are so well-behaved too and are growing up to be splendid young men, I'm jealous really
        >yeah I guess... I kinda wish at least some of them turned out to be disobedient frickups though.
        >wait what?
        >it's like I'm playing parenting on easy mode you know? I wish I had some more challenges, some really bad things to forgive them for, like one of my sons struggling with a crack addiction or going to jail for shagging a goat or beating his wife to death, maybe genocide if they're ambitious
        >no wait, what are you talking about? why would you want that?
        >I mean I can't demonstrate how much I really love them like this. How can you tell I really love my son when he hasn't even raped or murdered anyone? And I'm not so sure they really love me or they just love what I did for them, maybe I'll try setting one of my son's houses on fire just to see how he reacts. Then I can break another one's legs, or have him raped by a hobo with AIDS. I mean I already know which ones will still love me after that but I just want to make it clear to everyone what a great parent I am you know
        >what the frick is wrong with you?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ya and that's why God is evil because the world has far more evil in it than good.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even if God was hypothetically only "evil" and no good at all, I would still worship him if he was the true supreme god

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >If God is everywhere at all times and permeates all things in creation, doesn't that imply that anything that successfully happens in the world is in fact the will of God?
    Yes. So why bad thing happen?

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