If people buy studio monitors like this just for music listening (not audio production), how do they usually plug them in?

If people buy studio monitors like this just for music listening (not audio production), how do they usually plug them in? They only come with power cables, and you're expected to buy XLR/TRS cables separately, which are supposed to connect to a separate interface.

What is the most practical way to hook them up to a PC?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    any cheapo behringer interface will do

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're not cheap anymore....

      i guess studio monitors are a pretty good value item but i can't help but to imagine something designed to be is accurate as possible probably isn't going to be the most enjoyable thing to listen to. i mean swan/edifier makes powered speakers with a built in dac and preamplifier.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yes they are again. pay attention

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the um-2 has been 60 bucks for like the past 4 years now

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If people buy studio monitors like this just for music listening (not audio production),
        Well, most don't. Otherwise, fpbp, there is no other way

        What do you mean? That shit (interface) is literally $60, never been cheaper for the quality you get today. not like you need RME
        >something designed to be is accurate as possible probably isn't going to be the most enjoyable thing to listen to.
        It doesn't make a difference at all IME. I see monitors as just good/great speakers, sometimes with a more limited/defined 'sweet spot' so it matters more where you sit

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          btw I own the ones in OP and you'll want a subwoofer with it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what sub?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I honestly wouldn't really know what to recommend here, mine is overly expensive, much more than those JBL speakers. under 80 Hz the monitors are kinda weak (305 moreso than 308 I suppose). But when you add all this up, it does become a little expensive. I guess $150 minimum for a sub

            https://www.rockvilleaudio.com/apm10b/ for example

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >is literally $60
          yeah it was half that a few years ago

          PC -> minidsp with Dirac room correction -> monitors.

          is the dirac premium really worth it over just using rew?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm satisfied with the product, but don't have experience with rew so I can't compare. It works and took me about 30 minutes to set up.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >few years ago
            Guess things done changed

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            when a products whole selling point is that it's cheap and just werks, then no longer fits that criteria, i feel like it isn't really worth buying anymore. i'd still buy one used, probably.

            also op you can probably just pick up an old htr with digital inputs and pre-outs at your local thrift store for like 30 bucks or so probably.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >is the dirac premium really worth it over just using rew?
            Yes if you have double digit IQ
            Otherwise no real difference

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >yeah it was half that a few years ago
            stop being poor. you should be making that+tip every half an hour of "work" by now

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Using monitors with anything less than a mixer is pointless.
        Usb monitors are going to produce a rather flat sound and won’t utilize the ranges between low, mid and hi as a mixer provides.

        do you realize that slapping EQ on monitor speakers entirely defeats the purpose of using them in the first place?

        and you'll get hissing active speakers in return.

        [...]
        don't hook them up.
        you're better off getting passive speakers with an amp and preamp. preamp can be optical or usb from your pc.

        you might want to take a look at kickstarter fosi audio v3, mono block amps that have very good price/performance.

        active speakers are mostly a meme for consumers.
        m audio bx5 was very disappointing.
        krk rokit 8 was pretty good but started hissing.
        jbl is too shilled online, so never bothered.

        i'm 'back' to passive speakers with an active sub.

        "Monitors should sound bad" is an artifact of the popularity of the Yamaha NS10 as a grotbox in the 80s/90s. The Genelec 1031a and its successors strive for flat anechoic on-axis response and controlled, smoothly increasing directivity.

        Speakers are much less subjective than you think. When you do genuine blind, level matched tests, everyone's preferences cluster to speakers with good bass extension, flat anechoic response, and controlled directivity (which means down-sloping response in an actual room).

        Active speakers can achieve these goals more cheaply than equivalent passive speakers, which is why they are the better buy if you care about sound quality.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's an alt-audiophool thing.

        >few years ago
        Guess things done changed

        >/pol/troon takes an infographic with real info and slaps on MUH israeliteS so nobody outside his echo chamber will take it seriously
        Typical fed stooge.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just get a cheap interface if you're not doing production. Also Amazon sells cables super fricking cheap I recommend getting them from the basics line.

        It's not just the monitors, you need to treat your room to be enjoyable to listen to things in. It's a huge game changer.

        what sub?

        There's a sub for the 308s I'm sure it works with the 305s as well.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you need to treat your room to be enjoyable to listen to things in
          Easier and cheaper to just do DSP room correction. Proper room treatment is difficult and expensive, it's probably not worth the investment for most people.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think this thread is for "most people".

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Considering that op just wants a way to control his cheap monitors for...cheap, and the Behringer UM2 has been recommended as like a cheap standard of quality I think he is not going to invest hundreds if not thousands in room treatment.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            strictly speaking this image would answer OP's question
            the thread itself is a bit redundant

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's really not difficult nor expensive tbh.

            >you need to treat your room to be enjoyable to listen to things in. It's a huge game changer.
            Post photos of your room treatment
            [...]
            Everyone that insists that room treatment is mandatory for good audio is just repeating stuff they read online and doesn't actually have a treated room

            pic rel

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's really not difficult nor expensive tbh.
            depends. if you are just sporadically throwing up some rockboard covered in fabric to minimize reflections like your pic, it can be done for like a hundred bucks. but there is certainly more to take into account than just reflections alone, they are not inherently the enemy. dsp correction is a good, cheaper, and easier solution than treating a room correctly.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It all depends on your room, use REW and figure it out. I also have a huge skyline diffuser on my door and gigantic bass traps. It's not just simple reflection absorption.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Holy, shit
            I gotta say, you actually did it. First time ive seen that

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you need to treat your room to be enjoyable to listen to things in. It's a huge game changer.
          Post photos of your room treatment

          >you need to treat your room to be enjoyable to listen to things in
          Easier and cheaper to just do DSP room correction. Proper room treatment is difficult and expensive, it's probably not worth the investment for most people.

          Everyone that insists that room treatment is mandatory for good audio is just repeating stuff they read online and doesn't actually have a treated room

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're not cheap anymore....

      i guess studio monitors are a pretty good value item but i can't help but to imagine something designed to be is accurate as possible probably isn't going to be the most enjoyable thing to listen to. i mean swan/edifier makes powered speakers with a built in dac and preamplifier.

      apple dongle
      frick this chinkshit

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I recommend getting monitors with crossover and a subwoofer. By removing low frequencies from the speakers, you're giving them more space to properly reproduce the mid range. everything sounds better.
    don't waste your money on tubes, get some solid state amp, maybe from schiit. you can get cheap used ones on ebay.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3.5mm Y-Split into any 3.5mm port
    frick interfaces, this isn't a studio, I don't care that they're called """studio""" monitors, they produce sound well enough to warrant a purchase for home use
    I'll probably hook them to the living room tv instead of PC when I'll move to my new home

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PC -> minidsp with Dirac room correction -> monitors.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would yo waste money like that when on PC you can use eq software for free, minidsp is for home theatre and such

      utter tard

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wanted the room correction/eq to be independent of my PC because I have several of them that I use at the same desk. I also have experience with the software from other systems and like it.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I used to produce music for fun but lost the drive, I usually plugged in my monitors as such;
    > Monitors plugged into Mixer
    > Mixer plugged into audio-interface
    > Audio-Interface plugged into PC

    >why a mixer?
    Because a mixer gives you control over the hi’s, mid’s and low’s and allows you to better control sound output and drive the sound in a more controlled manner to produce the best quality output

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    some budget home listening monitors come are usb, or you can plug them in by aux and it'll sound just fine because they're externally powered

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Using monitors with anything less than a mixer is pointless.
      Usb monitors are going to produce a rather flat sound and won’t utilize the ranges between low, mid and hi as a mixer provides.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        do you realize that slapping EQ on monitor speakers entirely defeats the purpose of using them in the first place?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Surely you are joking,
          I don’t even feel I should ask the following but;
          Is this sarcasm you’re using?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    USB DAC with XLR out.
    Here's a cheap example. These are balanced 6.25mm TRS outputs on the back, get 6.25mm TRS to XLR cables and done.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cable example. Make sure it's balanced. One of the main benefits of using monitors, outside of flat output (easy to equalize to taste too).

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I once TS cables for like 7 years without realizing it kek
        Was nice getting to know the electronics of that pc intimately

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why not TRS to TRS?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cable example. Make sure it's balanced. One of the main benefits of using monitors, outside of flat output (easy to equalize to taste too).

      >balanced XLR
      Hello, snake oil merchant

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Balanced inputs prevent buzzing.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, they do not. What they prevent is interference that gets picked up on very long cables. Like studio or stage long, not PC speaker to interface long. You're shilling snake oil.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I use monitors on my table with 1.5m cables, tries both, the difference is noticeable from normal distance in a quiet environment. Have had several different pairs and DACs over the years.
            But you do you.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >tries
            tried* (balanced and unbalanced)

            Interesting side effect is also that with unbalanced, I had to turn the gain up on the monitors more to get the same volume compared to balanced.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That just means your monitors are extremely noisy or your environment is extremely noisy and there's lots of shit to pick up. I've got a 5m unbalanced cable in a bundle with 10s of other cables going from the sound output to an amp that's on a shelf on another wall and there's no audible noise over the speakers whatsoever.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go ahead and connect with TS. 50cm. enjoy hearing your PC

            I once TS cables for like 7 years without realizing it kek
            Was nice getting to know the electronics of that pc intimately

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1. TRS
            2. TS
            Same length, same speaker. Snake oil eh

            https://vocaroo.com/1mLCz4Lb85UD

            Also you barely hear a difference if youve stood next to a drummer for a couple of years

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Works on my machine. Sounds like your setup has a fault or a design problem somewhere and you're treating this as a universal issue. The only noise I can hear is the kind of hissing that's present even without any kind of input plugged in.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Probably depends on something like the PSU in the compootar

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            actually that kind of sound always ramps up with GPU usage, maybe its there. or its just interference. Either way, you're the lucky one, most people on a home setup will have noise like in the vocaroo

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            actually that kind of sound always ramps up with GPU usage, maybe its there. or its just interference. Either way, you're the lucky one, most people on a home setup will have noise like in the vocaroo

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]

            It's not a ground loop issue. There's no grounding between the DAC and monitors when they accept balanced inputs.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There's no grounding between the DAC and monitors when they accept balanced inputs.
            Is that really the case?
            I thought pin 1 on an XLR balanced connector was the ground. Maybe some of the hum gets cancelled after summing the two signals, but it should still be there if there's a ground loop situation.
            Or am I seriously missing something?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It is still signal ground, but proper monitors isolate between the input and internal amp.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but...
            >No, they do not.
            Yes, they do.
            >What they prevent is interference that gets picked up on very long cables. Like studio or stage long, not PC speaker to interface long.
            Interference doesn't wait to come along until a cable is too long, it's just much more susceptible to it since the signal gets pretty weak at that point on an unbalanced cable (and it's simply longer so more length for it to pick shit up)
            >You're shilling snake oil.
            I mean you're not completely wrong here anyway. I can't imagine many people have domestic applications where a short, unbalanced cable is going to be any issue.
            And if you do then you got to consider what is going on in your environment. Or that you have shitty cables and/or equipment, but nobody ever likes to admit that.
            This may come as a shock to you but most technically inclined people tend to overbuild their own stuff. That goes for home audio, video, cars, guns, anything.
            I've been part of stage and studio productions of all sorts for a long time and seen people do all sorts of shit that seems like it shouldn't work as well as it does but... it does anyway.
            All that said, I still would prefer to use XLR if ever possible, it's best practice, it doesn't hurt to have "more" and XLR is just cooler... but I am not going to lose any sleep if I have to use 1/4"

            >tries
            tried* (balanced and unbalanced)

            Interesting side effect is also that with unbalanced, I had to turn the gain up on the monitors more to get the same volume compared to balanced.

            >Interesting side effect is also that with unbalanced, I had to turn the gain up on the monitors more to get the same volume compared to balanced.
            Well... yeah. Balanced uses more power and as such is louder.

            Also everyone here calling 1/4" as 6.25mm or 6.35, 6.3, 6.5, whatever... is gay

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Also everyone here calling 1/4" as 6.25mm or 6.35, 6.3, 6.5, whatever... is gay
            Indeed kek
            t. Yuropoorean

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Also everyone here calling 1/4" as 6.25mm or 6.35, 6.3, 6.5, whatever... is gay
            literally called 6.25mm in stores here and everyone calls it that

            same with wire thickness
            same with screw sizes
            etc

            the world is mostly SI

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cool story bro. In all my years in AV literally nobody in the US calls it anything but 1/4", and we invented it, and nobody else matters anyway.

            [...]
            [...]
            A passive speaker without an amp has no hiss under any circumstances. You literally can't argue that. The real miracle is passive speakers don't hiss even with an amp.
            [...]
            I can hear it, reviewers can hear, speaker manufacturers can hear it and say it's normal. It's not a ground loop, it's not interference, it's what cheap ass amps sound like, and you're not going to see good amps inside active speakers. The only solution is to sit further away from the speakers like they do in studios.
            [...]
            That's what I'm using. Even $70 amps for passive speakers don't hiss, I only had hiss from a $15 amp which is the kind of hardware active speakers are using.

            >it's what cheap ass amps sound like, and you're not going to see good amps inside active speakers.
            Exactly my point: cheap active speakers are gonna use cheap amps. Doesn't mean a good active speaker can't have a good amp. It's certainly more of a design challenge, but it's 100% achievable.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yep, true story. Most of the world is metric after all.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          reducing speaker sensitivity reduces buzzing
          balanced cables would reduce buzzing in a scenario where your cable in the 2m distance from the pc is somehow brushing against something that creates an electrical field?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >reducing speaker sensitivity reduces buzzing
            good monitors can be turned all the way up and have no buzzing when using balanced

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            thats probably more to do with the amp than anything else

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the amp is inside the speakers in monitors, the dac has line level output

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            low quality cheap amps, in active monitors, are said to cause buzzing but higher end ones dont

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and you'll get hissing active speakers in return.

            [...]
            don't hook them up.
            you're better off getting passive speakers with an amp and preamp. preamp can be optical or usb from your pc.

            you might want to take a look at kickstarter fosi audio v3, mono block amps that have very good price/performance.

            active speakers are mostly a meme for consumers.
            m audio bx5 was very disappointing.
            krk rokit 8 was pretty good but started hissing.
            jbl is too shilled online, so never bothered.

            i'm 'back' to passive speakers with an active sub.

            >and you'll get hissing active speakers in return.
            Don't buy the cheapest shit on the market?

            and you'll get hissing active speakers in return.

            [...]
            don't hook them up.
            you're better off getting passive speakers with an amp and preamp. preamp can be optical or usb from your pc.

            you might want to take a look at kickstarter fosi audio v3, mono block amps that have very good price/performance.

            active speakers are mostly a meme for consumers.
            m audio bx5 was very disappointing.
            krk rokit 8 was pretty good but started hissing.
            jbl is too shilled online, so never bothered.

            i'm 'back' to passive speakers with an active sub.

            >active speakers are mostly a meme for consumers.
            Yeah, the ones specially made for consumer markets, pretending to be real monitors.

            >i'm 'back' to passive speakers with an active sub.
            You can have a separate active sub with monitors. I do.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >balanced cables prevent buzzing
          yes, over large distances like on a stage
          for a few meters, there's no difference

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and you'll get hissing active speakers in return.

          https://i.imgur.com/R9Ph4yE.jpeg

          If people buy studio monitors like this just for music listening (not audio production), how do they usually plug them in? They only come with power cables, and you're expected to buy XLR/TRS cables separately, which are supposed to connect to a separate interface.

          What is the most practical way to hook them up to a PC?

          don't hook them up.
          you're better off getting passive speakers with an amp and preamp. preamp can be optical or usb from your pc.

          you might want to take a look at kickstarter fosi audio v3, mono block amps that have very good price/performance.

          active speakers are mostly a meme for consumers.
          m audio bx5 was very disappointing.
          krk rokit 8 was pretty good but started hissing.
          jbl is too shilled online, so never bothered.

          i'm 'back' to passive speakers with an active sub.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you're better off getting passive speakers with an amp and preamp. preamp can be optical or usb from your pc.
            Fricking idiot.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they do come with toslink input? if no, better of with nineties av-amp and home-brew passive speakers

            I wouldn't buy monitors like this for home because they'd hiss too much. For my home listening I'm using a simple dongle DAC -> 3.5mm to RCA -> speaker amp -> passive speakers.

            The hiss comes from the amp. Active speakers have amps. Passive speakers don't. It's that simple.

            I learned from my mistakes. Only passive monitors now. No hiss under any circumstances ever.

            [...]
            Nope they all do
            turn yours up they'll hiss they all do
            passive ones don't hiss at all

            You guys realize that there's passive studio monitors too? Right?
            Using professional ones right now on one of my setups.

            Also not all active ones hiss, doesn't even depend on the price point or quality, different active monitors... are different.
            Ground loops and hiss can also be a problem with passive speakers and amp. The point is not to be a moron, active or passive, either way.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's no price difference between TS to XLR and TRS to XLR, so where's the snake oil?
        I guess you don't know what balanced means.

        Why not TRS to TRS?

        Sure, if your monitors supports TRS inputs. XLR is usually standard, not all have TRS.

        >Get a USB DAC with balanced audio output. XLR and TRS can both carry balanced audio signals. You want balanced signals for noise rejection.
        I thought this shit only mattered when using long cables, and only mattered for critical listening in the recording studio.

        If you want absolutely zero noise, even at 1 meter cable distances, balanced is the way to go. I see no point in not going balanced when the option exists.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There's no price difference between TS to XLR and TRS to XLR, so where's the snake oil?
          people are dumb, who knew

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There's no price difference between TS to XLR and TRS to XLR, so where's the snake oil?
          There is, compared to TS to TS.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Scarletts have notoriously shitty output DACs. I replaced mine with a Universal Audio Volt and it's night and day better for similar money.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and, in case you wonder, cables would go from interface to sub to speakers

    honestly, cons00mer stuff is not bad. Im thinking whether I would even recommend such a monitor setup for regular listening. I guess yes if you love music and have the cash. first time listening on such speakers is like the first time wearing glasses.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based, I use consumer grade Logitech Z533 and I've been very happy with them. If I want better listening, I'm using headphones.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >thinking headphones are better than speakers
        idiot

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a USB DAC with balanced audio output. XLR and TRS can both carry balanced audio signals. You want balanced signals for noise rejection.

    Plus you typically can get a DAC that will be better than what ever is on your motherboard for not that much money for $50-$200. Don't spend much more than that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Get a USB DAC with balanced audio output. XLR and TRS can both carry balanced audio signals. You want balanced signals for noise rejection.
      I thought this shit only mattered when using long cables, and only mattered for critical listening in the recording studio.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lets say im a moron at audio stuff (i am)
    i have an audio interface because i like to have a gay mic to pretend im a streamer
    i have a computer
    my monitor doesnt have built-in speakers
    whats the best/not complete cheap trash but also not bankbusting way to set up audio so i can kick back and watch a movie and listen to music with some quality?
    the vernacular kinda throws me for a loop, are studio monitors or speakers or whatever we call them bad for content consumption and only good for accurate reproduction of sound for mixing/mastering audio? or is it that its just overkill?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Monitors + DAC in the 500 eur range (total), for consumer usage.

      >are studio monitors or speakers or whatever we call them bad for content consumption and only good for accurate reproduction of sound for mixing/mastering audio?
      No. If you want to color your music, equalize. Monitors are just good quality drivers and speakers with mostly flat response and no interference, if you use balanced I/O.

      >or is it that its just overkill?
      Subjective. Personally I'll stick to monitor for my computer setup and home theatre for TV.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you're expected to buy XLR/TRS cables separately, which are supposed to connect to a separate interface.
    >What is the most practical way to hook them up to a PC?
    You literally answered your own question. I don't understand the point of this thread.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >TRS > TRS
    >2x TRS 6.3mm male - 3.5mm male

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OR JUST 2x TRS 6.3mm male - 3.5mm male

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because its lsr305 people will be questioning the "will it hiss if I dont use a dac that outputs balanced"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Monitors hiss from ground loops. Behringer hd400 is the easiest way to break ground loops safely.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that too but I think the reason they made mark 2 of the lsr's is because the front plate wasnt rigid or something and it made noise as it moved with the diaphragm
          The poor amps were too noisy, the speaker itself was too sensitive = poor experience on pc users.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They only made mk2 to sell more units at high prices

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          or cheap apple usb to aux + ground loop breaker usb

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Behringer hd400 is the easiest way to break ground loops safely.
          balanced doesn't do ground loops

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a cheap pair of active studio monitors for around 100 eurobucks (Presonus Eris) and they sound way better than logitech's or creative's pc speaker in the same price range.

    I have one slight problem. They produce slight white noise when they are turned on. It annoys me when I don't listen to anything.

    I've already tried the following:
    >different power outlet
    >different power cable
    >RCA to 3,5mm
    >TRS to 3,5mm https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32835877387.html
    >aluminium foil over the wires
    None of these did work. The white noise comes from both speakers so they are not probably broken, right?

    One thing I noticed is that the white noise comes from the left speaker even if I only power it on without any cables on or connecting it to the right speaker.

    Anyone knows what's the problem?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are cheap speakers with a cheap, noisy amplifier. This is common in low-end studio monitors - producers don't care about a little white noise that will get immediately drowned out by the music. It is POSSIBLE (not guaranteed) that using a balanced connection (TRS or XLR from an interface) could reduce the hiss somewhat, but not likely.

      lets say im a moron at audio stuff (i am)
      i have an audio interface because i like to have a gay mic to pretend im a streamer
      i have a computer
      my monitor doesnt have built-in speakers
      whats the best/not complete cheap trash but also not bankbusting way to set up audio so i can kick back and watch a movie and listen to music with some quality?
      the vernacular kinda throws me for a loop, are studio monitors or speakers or whatever we call them bad for content consumption and only good for accurate reproduction of sound for mixing/mastering audio? or is it that its just overkill?

      TRS cables from your interface to a pair of Kali LP-UNF? Or LP-6v2 if you can afford it? The upgrade path for a decent speaker setups is something like
      1) decent active speakers (JBL LSR, Kali, obviously Genelec or Neumann for richgays)
      2) Measurement mic/EQ/room correction
      3) Subwoofers. Yes you need them.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Subwoofers. Yes you need them.
        >implying

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It is POSSIBLE (not guaranteed) that using a balanced connection (TRS or XLR from an interface) could reduce the hiss somewhat, but not likely.
        Thanks, I might try that some day. It's ok if the noise isn't completely removed but reduced a little so my focus doesn't move into it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have the same ones, they produce 0 bass when you are sitting near them, you can only hear the bass only if you listen from a distance, they are just too small to produce any significant low end.
      The only use case for them right now is bringing them outside when im doing something and need background noise. I use them with an apple dongle, so the static noise gets eliminated quickly. It REALLY depends on the listening distance and positioning of the speakers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I have the same ones, they produce 0 bass when you are sitting near them, you can only hear the bass only if you listen from a distance, they are just too small to produce any significant low end.
        That might, in par, just be room acoustics. Standing waves can form in a room, and if you're sitting at the low point of a prominent bass sinus wave, you might lose a lot of bass.
        If you try to move your shit to one of the spots where the bass is stronger, so that you sit in that spot, bass might drastically improve.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they do come with toslink input? if no, better of with nineties av-amp and home-brew passive speakers

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >people think the only benefit of balanced cables is interference
    IQfy everybody

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the #1 issue with active monitors is hiss that is audible on pc desktop setup so people focus on that

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's only a problem with select shit brands and models. I've had ones with zero hiss and ones that hiss like crazy, balanced or not.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          well just so happens that those select shit brands are the only ones being talked about and worth considering

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just buy any chink dac. or an apple dongle like the one guy said

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't buy monitors like this for home because they'd hiss too much. For my home listening I'm using a simple dongle DAC -> 3.5mm to RCA -> speaker amp -> passive speakers.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      These speakers literally do not hiss at all. Why do you think monitor speakers would hiss? That would be terrible lmfao.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This motherfricker hisses like even from 1m away. Most entry level studio monitors do. They're meant to be behind a console so it's not as bad. But for desktop use it's real bad.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm literally sitting right next to 308s and there is no hiss at all. I highly doubt the 305s have hiss because they cost less.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A 50 year old can hear that they hiss. When someone is using monitors at their desk and says they don't hiss I just assume he's 80. Unless it's really high end monitors.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my genelec's dont hiss.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All active speakers hiss on desktop. Badly.

      Jesus, what cheap shit did you buy that you have such moronic opinions.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally the speaker from the OP. Notorious for its hiss.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't buy shit?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I learned from my mistakes. Only passive monitors now. No hiss under any circumstances ever.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mate you are a complete idiot.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My setup doesn't hiss, your does, who's the idiot now.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My setup doesn't hiss and I have 308s, you're just a moron.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stop being deaf.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://vocaroo.com/1GODUQldb3tI

            Lmao, I'm not even close to deaf or have any issues with low and high frequencies. If I did music production would be a pain in the ass.

            Here's a recording of the room to show you how dumb you are.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >posts hiss
            Is this bait.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What's the point of being moronic online anon? Why do you do it? Did no one ever love you? Were you dropped on your head? Did you grow up in southern us and not get proper education and love and care?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What's the point of being moronic online anon?
            You tell me.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I bet he thinks the low rumble Air Conditioner outside the door is hiss
            What a moron

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Check your hearing.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's literally no hiss you fricking moron. The only audible things are AC, and voice and voice echo for being right next to the speaker. I can't do anything about the AC because this room doesn't have a semi mortised door + seal like the soundproof side does. pic rel

            Quit talking out your ass and frick off already.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            See

            Check your hearing.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but it is gone at 2 feet or so
            ...so if you are properly seated the correct distance in the room from the monitors you would hear and experience 0 noise from the tweeter. Congrats on proving yourself wrong.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My setup doesn't hiss even 1 inch away from the tweeter and it's cheaper too.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Um, didn't you hear anon. A 50 year old could hear it down the block.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Go ask him then.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            whether something is passive or not has no inherent bearing on whether it will hiss or not, what kind of moronic cope is this?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you even know how an active speaker works.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, and apparently any sort of explanation is apparently lost on you.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Please explain why you can't hear hiss that even a 50 year old man can.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >50yo man
            okay, this makes a lot of sense now. go the frick back to audiokarma, homosexual.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't bother with him, he's a complete and utter idiot, and determined to dig himself deeper and deeper into a hole.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You literally have no idea what you're talking about on this subject. Just stop you worthless moron.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm talking about hiss. It's not rocket science.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I learned from my mistakes. Only passive monitors now. No hiss under any circumstances ever.
            What? Interference comes from RF and EMI. If you have active monitors that are hissing it's because either
            >A. you are introducing a signal with hissing
            >B. hissing is being induced by your transformer
            >C. gain is too high (weak signal)
            Audio requires amplification, an active monitor simply puts it on board, but that, by design, doesn't inherently make the signal more susceptible unless it's a shitty design.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dude had no idea what he was talking about

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The hiss comes from the amp. Active speakers have amps. Passive speakers don't. It's that simple.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. Ffs AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            matrix reboot

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Please an hero dude.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cannot believe how stupid you are.

            A passive speaker without an amp has no hiss under any circumstances. You literally can't argue that. The real miracle is passive speakers don't hiss even with an amp.

            All speaker audio requires an amp, whether it lives in the speaker or not is beside the point. An active speaker inducing noise is a poorly designed active speaker

            There's a chance you aren't totally moronic and are experiencing a ground loop whenever you try active speakers.

            I can hear it, reviewers can hear, speaker manufacturers can hear it and say it's normal. It's not a ground loop, it's not interference, it's what cheap ass amps sound like, and you're not going to see good amps inside active speakers. The only solution is to sit further away from the speakers like they do in studios.

            [...]
            [...]
            [...]
            [...]
            [...]
            You guys realize that there's passive studio monitors too? Right?
            Using professional ones right now on one of my setups.

            Also not all active ones hiss, doesn't even depend on the price point or quality, different active monitors... are different.
            Ground loops and hiss can also be a problem with passive speakers and amp. The point is not to be a moron, active or passive, either way.

            That's what I'm using. Even $70 amps for passive speakers don't hiss, I only had hiss from a $15 amp which is the kind of hardware active speakers are using.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are still digging yourself deeper into a hole? Just let it go you moron. We all know you're stupid.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still being deaf? Well it's not like you have a choice really.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cannot believe how stupid you are.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All speaker audio requires an amp, whether it lives in the speaker or not is beside the point. An active speaker inducing noise is a poorly designed active speaker

            There's a chance you aren't totally moronic and are experiencing a ground loop whenever you try active speakers.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All active speakers hiss on desktop. Badly.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No they dont? You need to check your connections and wires if you're experiencing hiss lmfao.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Jesus, what cheap shit did you buy that you have such moronic opinions.

        Nope they all do
        turn yours up they'll hiss they all do
        passive ones don't hiss at all

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What's the point of coming in here spouting nonsense?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What's the point in lying saying active speakers don't hiss when they all do?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They literally don't.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is Genelec lying then?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Nope they all do
          >turn yours up they'll hiss they all do
          Mine are turned pretty high up volume wise, using the analog control on the DAC to adjust volume, so I keep the monitors above 2/3rds, no hiss.

          >passive ones don't hiss at all
          Depends on the amp you use.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get an adapter to 3.5mm jack, ez

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://support.genelec.com/hc/en-us/articles/4404783269394-When-I-m-close-to-the-speaker-I-can-hear-a-hissing-noise-is-this-normal

    >A constant low level hissing noise is a normal sound associated with speaker operation. All active speaker amplifiers generate sound which is heard through the speaker elements. This is called self generated noise level, which is <5 dB A or even <3 dB A for some of the latest Genelec products. This is a very low noise level, and most active speakers on the market are not capable of producing such a low noise floor.

    >In a very quiet room and sitting near the speakers, the normal self-generated noise can be heard when there is no other noise or music in the background.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which is fine since if you hear it only when you're not blasting music

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure you can get cables and adapters which go from a standard 3.5mm stereo jack to XLR. Obviously it's not going to actually be a balanced connection and it's not going to have the noise rejection benefits of one but it's going to work in terms of actually producing sound.

    If you want or need a real balanced connection then you'll need an audio interface with balanced output or some other balanced output DAC.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do not use these lmao. Get a interface to handle the audio.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alright kids, daddy woke up. All class D amplifiers bring audible noise, class A/B don't. it's literally this simple. LSR305 is D class.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      then why does my class a amplifier produce the same noise as my class d amp when pugged into a digital preamp? why do they both go silent when plugged into my class a preamp? the world may never know.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's similar to the USB/firewire thing for interfaces. All USB interfaces have higher RT latency except RME's, who make the best USB interfaces in the world, because they actually do it right. So, there will be (more expensive) class D amps that don't hiss or hiss way less, and there will be A/B amps that hiss. overall it's a good rule of thumb - look up how it works and you'll see it's evident that D class introduces more hiss.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How would you place your speakers in a very small room in which almost half of it is covered by a bed? I'm talking just about 10m squared, my bookshelfs really sound bad in this room but I will have to stay in it for some months.
    also i'm planning to add a sub but idk if this will help

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You more than likely don't need balanced cables in a home/amateur environment. You need a USB interface because interfaces almost never play nice when analog inputs are used. If your monitors are still making noise with a USB connection, it's the hiss that comes from the shoddy internal amps that most affordable powered speakers use. The JBLs WILL hiss. A small amount of barely audible hiss from even most separate amplifiers is normal in an extremely quiet room, but cheaper monitors don't prioritize this and they have very noticeable hiss when nothing is playing. It's why I bought bookshelf speakers and a cheap Chinese class D I won't feel bad about throwing out every 2 or so years.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    let me guess, you need more

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    monitors are shit my 6x9 car speakers shit on them

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mine came with RCA to 3.5mm TRS.
    I use them with my interface and balanced cables.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what happens if you use unbalanced cables straight from the pc

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You get unbalanced input. Did you even read the thread?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          do you notice a difference in the usability of the speaker when doing that

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Did you even read the thread?
          Kek this thread is a hot mess, anyone who hasn't already made their mind up about muh hiss will just be confused by what's written here

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It works the same. Since they're shitty I get a bit of hiss (balanced or unbalanced). If I plug it to my phone (3.5mm TRS) and spin the connector around it scratches.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So interface is just for convenient cable management/physical volume knob?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty much.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And balanced output of course.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's for people who actually record or play music. I have no fricking clue why anyone would go this route if theyre not a musician like ITT

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            active speakers vs amp + speakers , not much difference.
            Speakers for pro audio market have little switches and knobs to adjust bass response while hifi speakers have nice wood effect.
            When you put good hifi and good studio speakers against each other there's very little difference in sound.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >active speakers vs amp + speakers , not much difference
            Except amp + speakers will always cost you at least 2x more for similar performance

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if you're on bottom rung gear then I think I'd choose the hifi over the actives, mainly the actives will have too many corners cut with cheap enclosures , low grade chip amps and power supplies. A reasonably hifi amp will at least have an OK power supply. Once you go over around $600 per active then higher end amps etc close the gap.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >T. Guy who just time traveled from 2005

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yep.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            forgot my picture, although not entirely relevant

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you need balanced DAC
            I use Topping D10b with the monitors in OP, without it I couldn't play demanding games (buzzing noise from graphics card)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's good for the proper output and audio converter to pc.

            It's for people who actually record or play music. I have no fricking clue why anyone would go this route if theyre not a musician like ITT

            is incorrect. If you're going to be using proper audio equipment and not stuff built for PC use you're way better off having a nice audio interface. I know it's a common trend these days for bedroom morons and stuff but I've been doing it since like 2007ish with a breakout cable PCI card to firewire to usb-c.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Desktop Speakers are too hard you have to sit in the exact perfect space otherwise everything sounds off balance

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its best to use monitor stands instead of keeping them on a desk

      its kinda annoying when you make simple searches for a platform to hold 2-5kg box around 50-150cm height you get suggested monitor stands that cost more than the monitor itself
      like you'd think its a technology that doesnt cost so much.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, yeah they sound best when they are creating the perfect triangle but...if you're not actually using them for audio production it really won't make a difference. Giant speakers sound good in ear for simple ape man.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If this happens then either the speakers have bad directivity or the room is overtreated, not enough room reflections to reduce the comb filtering. The bass will always change from place to place but it's not a desktop speaker problem, it's a speaker problem in general.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just bought a set of Edifier R1280DB because they were on sale for 99AUD.
    How bad did I frick up?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well for the price they're absolutely fine
      its just theres better monitors at 3x the price that might be better value in the long run since they sound better and the speakers can last over a decade

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have the R1280T and with some EQ it's alright
      Unrelated ig, I'm running it with a SVS SB-1000 sub rn and it's to my ears pretty solid but since I move out in the near future to an apartment I think I'll just return that sub (just got it for a few days, am just testing that one sub rn), plus I think upgrading my speakers is a bigger upgrade than adding a sub to my R1280t
      That being said, I'm looking to upgrade my speakers to a LP-6 or LP UNF (if that's a big upgrade to begin with, where's hi-fi general where you need it)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You will regret returning the sub.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not that I play it loud or anything, just don't want to come over as the butthole with a sub when I move in there, I don't know how sound insulation is there

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if anything they will be impressed. the sb-1000 is a great sub

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They're 780 euro a pair here
            Is it a worthy step up to the LP-6 2nd wave, which would be 420 euro? My budget ain't all that big tbf

            [...]
            I crossed my sb-1000 at 70Hz for appartment use. I got a complaint once, not because it was loud but because they could see their batroom tiles rattling.

            To be fair, I've been running it for a few days now and I haven't received a complaint from my family yet, and the volume is like 45-50%, but downstairs there's also a sub so perhaps it drowns each other out
            I guess it really depends on apartments, the one I'm on the list for was built like five years ago, so perhaps I'm just fine

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if anything they will be impressed. the sb-1000 is a great sub

            I crossed my sb-1000 at 70Hz for appartment use. I got a complaint once, not because it was loud but because they could see their batroom tiles rattling.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Man, cutting off that much low end would kill me.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get the lp 8 or even better the in 8 v2 and you won't need a sub
        A pair of the in 8 v2 is $800 right now on Amazon

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          *in8 v2

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the in 8 v2 and you won't need a sub
          That depends on the stuff you're listening to. There's plenty of electronic music genres that benefit from audible 30Hz sub-bass.
          The IN-8s are advertised in the 40Hz range which is not that different from a lot of 5 inch speakers.
          Now I'd still recommend the Kalis for their clarity due to the 3way design, which is quite a rarity at this price point.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Edifier=doodoo.
      I ran them next to my 20 year old Bose PC speakers and instantly returned to Amazon.

      I like Mackie, at least the 8 inch monitors. Depending on the room shape you won't need a woofer for bass-heavy electronic music.

      Edifier at that price (and probably above) is ng.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes for $50USD they are completely fine and anyone thinking anything else is braindead

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      EQ them, the ~90-200hz range especially is too pronounced. After that they're great and you can laugh at the cable snake + rock keks that spent ten times or more on theirs.
      See like this guy

      Edifier=doodoo.
      I ran them next to my 20 year old Bose PC speakers and instantly returned to Amazon.

      I like Mackie, at least the 8 inch monitors. Depending on the room shape you won't need a woofer for bass-heavy electronic music.

      Edifier at that price (and probably above) is ng.

      who doesn't know what an equalizer is.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    3.5 to 6.3 y-spliter is trivial to solder, cut the ring of the TRS side so it does nothing

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you're after high end stuff, like a pair of Genelecs and their subwoofer, you might want to also consider buying used.
    I bought mine used for a fifth of their original price from a studio that closed down.
    One of my best buys ever for sure.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use a Denon mixer that feeds into my Genelecs with balanced XLR.
    It has 6 channels or so, I only use 3, from my high end audio interface, the onboard sound of my laptop and/or microphone.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    budget 200 or less dollars
    i have a Behringer U-Phoria UMC204HD lying around somewhere
    have no interest in 'upgrading', just want something acceptable to anyone with a slightly discerning ear that isnt an extreme autismo diminishing returns audiophile rabbit hole-r and frankly it doesnt even have to use that audio interface, they can be BT or whatever so long as theyre okay

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >doesnt have to use it
      scratch that, if i have the audio interface i might as well use it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      $300 is the best i can do
      https://www.amazon.com/LP-UNF-Nearfield-Powered-Monitor-Bluetooth/dp/B0CSDVVYBC/
      But a pair of these at $400 would be preferable
      https://www.amazon.com/LP-6-V2-Project-Powered-Monitor/dp/B09MLT8C45/

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        too much, i have a tiny ass room and i have now decided i want to use my audio interface

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Second hand LSR305

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The lp-unf supports balanced Audio, you just need a cable that's trs on the speaker end and whatever balanced out is on your interface on the other, it's a very common cable

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm here to remind the unwashed masses that that Rythmik makes the best subwoofers.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Computer based recording is satanic, I say this as an electronic "musician" aka filthy groovebox casual

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Satanic? Sweet. I'll keep doing it then.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TRS to RCA is all you need. Then get a LDAC/APTX-HD Bluetooth streaming box and enjoy.

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