If these guys were like 1 percent of the population why did the locals just get rid of them?

If these guys were like 1 percent of the population why did the locals just get rid of them?
Was less taxes really worth being ruled by foreigners for a thousand years?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Locals and what army? Not too familiar with 5th century WRE but I’m pretty sure the Roman army had effectively collapsed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lack of payment, not physical destruction.

      Also
      >Die for "national pride" for free (remember, no payment)
      Vs
      >Grow crops and pay 1/10 what you paid to the imperial administration while everything seemed the same, just way less raids

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In current France, it's the locals that allowed the Franks to take over. Franks beat various kind of germanoids and the last remnant of Rome (Syagrius).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's what I'm saying
      They really only lasted because the locals allowed it. I get this for like a century or two but these homies let the same dynasty rule till like 1800 and even let them put them in a caste system

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        In the case on Franks, mixed marriages were legal and happened. Franks also converted rather quickly. Besides locals were not united, the "Gauls" are a bunch of tribes that fought against each other constantly. Locals ended up considering themselves "Franks" too.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the "Gauls" are a bunch of tribes that fought against each other constantly.
          Wouldn't they have thought of themselves as Romans by that point? Or was that just the rich

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Gallo-romans
            But yeah it was the rich elite that was the most assimilated

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            as Roman citizens but Roman never replaced Gaulic tribal identities

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Gallic identity and language was defunct by that period so yea.

  3. 1 month ago
    Radiochan

    wait till you find out about who ruled Gaul for like 500 years before that point

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The roman removed like the half the population and rebuilt from the ground up
      The franks barely even looted and everyone was cool with it

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    maybe you should watch 7 Samurai, OP

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because 90% of the people lived their lives in the closest 2-3 villages and they never realized that there was a new government or a new people ruling their capitals. There was no internet, no CNN, and it took one week on a donkey to reach to the capital.

    At least for Spain, 90% of the people never saw a Roman, a Goth, or a muslim in their whole lives. Do anybody really believe that 5.000.000 of Spaniards knew that 1000 muslims entered into the country? Not at all. 90% of the people never saw a muslim in the 700 years occupation. People never abandoned their villages and knew very little about things that were 100 km away.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because there was no military left and since these guys weren't stupid they tried to fit in with the natives and after some time they weren't foreigners anymore
    the only place where there was a real takeover was england

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they were way too buisy dying of starvation and plague after having somehow survived a massive continet wide systemic collapse followed by mass armed invasions to realy care about such details

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why didnt the people in 2000s iraq just kick out the amaricans, they were hardly 1% of the population

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Different times and they still tried

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because life wasn't that different for most people under these barbarian kings as it had been under the Romans. And the same continued to be true of random foreign kings invading and taking over with a few exceptions like the Normans actually being dicks to the local Anglo-Saxons for a few centuries before going native.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Most people for a long time in history didnt even knew who ruled them or to what "country" they belonged.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're raised by warriors and spend your whole life fighting, then that's a big difference from spending your whole life picking turnips.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Literal moron

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you really do your research most of the nobility of these kingdoms were the natives larping as barbarians. Following noble lines will often lead you to suspiciously roman sounding names.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      King Grug of the bog clan wuz Roman an sheit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thats great, but, do you guyze realise that in the 150 years before that these people were literaly surviving a endgame scenario, starvation, epidemics, total econo9 ic and political collapse, by 500something, thee ones that were still alive were glad to just be there, and then the 500ds actually happened, and then it was even worse, worse starvation and worse epidemics
      Thats the real start of the 'dark ages'

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Except for the Anglo Saxons the barbarian elite pretty much left them alone for the most part to LARP as Roman’s with the clergy being the educated functionaries of the government. People viewed nationality different back then and didn’t really give a fauci what ethnicity ruled them as long as they were fed and didn’t have to die in wars.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For long term, Burgundians and Gepids have potential.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They did

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >If these guys were like 1 percent of the population why did the locals just get rid of them?
    >Was less taxes really worth being ruled by foreigners for a thousand years?

    considering they had been ruled by foreigners (Italians) for the previous several centuries with higher taxes, yes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >italians
      ngmi

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Migrant Germans who became known as the Anglo-Saxons and were the dominant population of England until William the Conqueror and his Norse-French

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anglo-saxons are NOT germans

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the only interaction with the government back then was taxes

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mein Gott... what will John Mcpeasantman now do that he's ruled by the cumbulgeians and not the erectile empire... Oh the humanity...

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >being ruled by foreigners
    The Germans "invaders" were citizens of the Empire, and perhaps more integrated into Roman society that the peasants they ruled.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mostly it's
    >Less taxes really worth being ruled by foreigners for a thousand years
    But also you need to understand that peasants were weak and untrained
    Even if they gathered 1000 people just 200 trained soldiers would wipe the floor with them
    That's why national revolutions started along with rifles becoming efficient and mass-produced enough to overcome need for years long training

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nationalism wasn't a thing back them, the rulers being competent, pious/church aproved and not overtaxing you weighted much more that he being native or foreign

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they were farm cattles like they are today. voting for leftist and socialist policies while avoiding obligatory service to the state or military

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ruled by foreigners

    Why didn't these plebs who were long pacified to accept living under an absolute ruler rise up to replace their barbarian king with the child emperor controlled by a barbarian general? A real mystery that is.

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