I'm an atheist. Try your hardest to convince me christianity is more logical than other religions.

I'm an atheist. Try your hardest to convince me christianity is more logical than other religions.

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  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    No. If you are interested, read by yourself.

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    This thread will be filled with appeals to emotion.

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    There must be beings higher above than men, and there must be being higher above them, and some higher above them. And the higher you get, the rarer and uniquely they are. If you keep going higher and higher, eventually, by logic, you should reach one that is the Most High. That is God.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It would probably take a microbe months or years to walk across my desk. Yet if I stretch my hands I can reach both ends of my desk without even having to get up from my chair. That must be how it is for God. For us the universe is so huge and endless and everything is at the distance of lightyears away. Yet God is so big that he could stretch his hand and reach half the universe.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >there must be
      Why? No

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Every ancient civilization and culture on earth has known and written about the ones who came from the sky.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Even the ones that didn't have a written language?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, they left smoke signals.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_people
          >According to Everett, the Pirahã have no concept of a supreme spirit or god, and they lost interest in Jesus when they discovered that Everett had never seen him. They require evidence based on personal experience for every claim made.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >this is what /misc/ and IQfylets think africans are

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Believe in spirits
            I guess they don't actually need evidence

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >out of nothing, no thing can arise
        As far as I understand it, it's either you think the universe was always here (which the Big Bang seems to disagree?) or there must be a superior entity ie. God

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Do u want 2 suk Jesus’ dik, gay?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            post nose

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >big bang
          Is just a rapid expansion of a condensed observable universe, not that start of it. We are just ukable to know what there was before or what there is beyond all of what is currently observable.
          There was no mathematical singularity, that has been rejected for decades.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            so it all falls under what you choose to believe?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            You can deduce that claiming "existence started" is mere ludicrous nonsense and there always was something that transformed.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >higher above
      in what way? start making sense!

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    For me is Mii/May (fictional New Guinean goddess)

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I think he's based and I respect his followers beliefs enough to not make threads about them, despite my personal disagreement. Since you feel that way about my god, why did you make this thread?

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The Polynesian deity Lono is a demon, just like all other polytheistic deities.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      like Jesus?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        He the holy spirit

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Lono is an aspect of the one God, like every other god

  8. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Monotheism is categorically different from polytheistic religions, and there are bearly any of them other than the Abrahamic religions throught all of human history.

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You believe God is a fallen angel mistakenly worshiped by gullible humans?

  10. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Go ride a plane experiencing catastrophic turbulence and see how atheist you are lel

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why must I be desperate enough to cope God into existence?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        ??? What would happen and why?

        >this desperate playing dumnb
        Pfffffffffft ahahahahahahah

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I take it nothing at all would happen.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            No, you would be pissing your pants begging God to spare you and you know it

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            No, I would be hoping that the plane's automated emergency systems designed by engineers using the 100% secular, 0% Christian scientific method work as intended.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            No you wouldnt pussy

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Has "God's chosen people" become THIS desperate?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I personally came close to death quite a few time and never once I thought of God

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Sure thing 12 year old

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Got a scooter accident as a teen, I flew into the woods missing a turn on a countryside road. Landed on soft soil & didn't break a bone but was confused as shit even at the hospital. Didn't think of God

            Almost hit a truck while riding my motorbike like a few centimeters away, it fricked me so much I became afraid on taking the road for a while. Didn't think of God

            Got entraped by my sail while sailing at sea on a windy day, I had my head stuck into the water and thankfully thought fast enough to just dive and have the currents & winds take the sail away from above my head and I recall not having taken a deep breath before being ejected so my chest felt like bursting all the way. Never thought of God

            I had a scuba diving incident where my head didn't depressurized correctly and it felt like it was being crushed with my teeth feeling like they were going to pierce my skull. Never thought of God.

            What I thought back then was "SURVIVE" "DON'T DIE" "CONTINUE" and the person I thought about the most was myself and around me the people in my lives I care about. Then I would shake like a twig and cry and laugh at the same time as confusion became realization then I would just stop and stare in the void as my heartbeat calmed and the cortisol & other hormones from the earlier euphory and shock diminished.
            I get it why people love dangerous sports, this shit makes you *feel* when you're fully conscious what the stakes are if you fail.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Got a scooter accident as a teen
            stopped reading right there AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Everyone starts somewhere
            Also ESL so by scooter I mean a Moped forgot to specify that, they usually go 50km but that road was a bit of a slope and I could go as high as 90km.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Buddy I flipped my SUV in rural winter shut the frick up nobody cares about your little kid shit

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >noooo that didn't count, you have to be in a Boeing plane to fear for your life and meet God!!!!

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Go ride you r skwoota ahahahahahahah

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I was super sad when I entered college and I had to get rid of it since it had some issues and to repair it we needed unavailable chinese parts. It felt like the death of a family pet
            Tell me christian, do you think Mopeds have souls? Do they go to vehicule heaven?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      ??? What would happen and why?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      No you wouldnt pussy

      >flight turbulence is the closest anon has ever come to death
      >calls other people pussies
      Lmao this fricking board man, where’s your proof of Christianity pussy?

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    What evidence would you need to consider it?

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    At the very least I think even if you believe in the Big Bang, evolution, or whatever it still doesn't explain how everything truly began. It doesn't make sense to say everything came from nothing so a deity makes sense. Now whether it's the Christian one or not I have no idea. Maybe this deity isn't truly known by anyone and maybe this deity has no interest in us at all. It seems the ancient Greeks and Egyptians were open to the idea of there being an unknown god we'll never truly know or understand.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because nothing truly began in the first place?

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I'm no Christian, but as a former atheist, can I invite you to join me in worshipping Lolth, the Spider Queen? She's just as fictional as any other, only slightly more recent, and unlike them, worshipping Her costs you nothing. You just do anything you want to laugh at whoever is hurt by it. So Her existence is a moot point anyway.

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm an atheist

    No, you're an anti-theist or misotheist. Be more proscriptive in your speech.

    Beyond that, this thread and her arguments are made in bad faith, so it will do little to facilitate discussion in any capacity.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Deists are theists
      Antitheists are atheists

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Inherent intent matters in speech, doesn't it?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          A labrador isn't a dog?

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

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  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I recommend you read the book "Mere Christianity" by CS Lewis. I had a lot of questions about christianity in gereral that in the end where entirely ignorance from my part. This book really open my eyes and made me Christian.

    provides compelling reasons for the logical appeal of Christianity, focusing on moral law, evil, and redemption.

    - Universal Moral Law: Lewis points out that all humans possess an innate sense of right and wrong, a universal moral law that suggests an objective standard of good.
    - Need for a Lawgiver: If there’s a universal moral law, it logically implies a moral lawgiver. This lawgiver must be beyond the universe, possessing qualities of omnipotence, omniscience, and moral perfection—traits traditionally linked to God.
    - Explanation of Evil and Good: Christianity logically explains evil as a perversion of the original good. This aligns with our intuitive judgment that evil is a deviation from how things ought to be, not an independent entity. Good is the standard; evil is its corruption.
    - Unique Redemption Narrative: Christianity uniquely addresses the human condition with a solution to the problem of evil and our inability to follow the moral law consistently. It claims an actual historical intervention—God becoming man in Jesus Christ to redeem humanity, a claim that is historically and falsifiably unique among world religions.
    - Personal and Cosmic Harmony: Christianity aligns personal morality with a cosmic moral order, suggesting that we are made for a purpose and are known by a moral, personal God.

    In summary, Christianity offers a coherent framework that addresses fundamental human questions about justice, purpose, and moral failure, combining elements of universal moral law, a transcendent lawgiver, and a historical solution to evil and suffering in a way that is uniquely logical and satisfying.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Lewis points out that all humans possess an innate sense of right and wrong
      False, psychopaths exist. Toddlers exist

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        A toddler isn't a human being yet
        Psychopaths are monsters in human skin

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          nice cop out

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        C.S. Lewis does indeed acknowledge exceptions like psychopaths, and he addresses concerns about variations in moral perception and behavior, such as with young children or those with certain psychological conditions. However, his argument isn’t negated by these exceptions. Instead, he suggests that the presence of a universal moral law is evidenced not by universal compliance or understanding, but rather by a universal standard that even those exceptions deviate from.

        Lewis argues that every human action, even those considered morally deviant, is aimed at seeking some good, albeit in a distorted or inappropriate way. This concept aligns with his broader narrative that evil is not a standalone entity but a corruption or perversion of good. For example, in the story of Adam and Eve, their desire “to be like God” reflects a natural and good aspiration—God is seen as the epitome of good. Yet, the method they chose—disobeying a direct command—was wrong. Thus, their fault lies not in the desire for good but in the method of achieving it.

        Lewis uses this framework to explain that what we often see as “evil” or “immoral” actions are attempts to achieve something inherently good (like pleasure, power, or security) in wrongful ways. The existence of a moral law is thus not disproven by the existence of individuals who seem to lack a sense of morality; rather, it highlights that even in these cases, there is a twisted pursuit of good, showcasing the distortion of the moral law, not its absence.

        This perspective helps us understand the complexity of human morality and supports the notion of a universal moral law that guides even when it is subverted or misunderstood.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          When we seek for good we're seeking to fulfill our own interests before those of others

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            That’s an interesting point, and it’s true that humans often act out of self-interest. However, C.S. Lewis addresses this in “Mere Christianity” by distinguishing between mere self-interest and the pursuit of good guided by a moral law. Lewis suggests that while our actions are frequently self-interested, the presence of a universal moral law challenges us to consider the interests of others and the broader concept of what is right, beyond mere personal gain.

            Lewis argues that this moral law nudges us towards actions that might contradict our immediate personal interests in favor of a higher, often altruistic, good. For instance, why would someone sacrifice their own comfort or safety for the benefit of others if our actions were purely based on self-interest? The fact that people are capable of such actions supports the idea of a moral standard that goes beyond individual desires.

            Moreover, Lewis points out that the very recognition of something as a “selfish” act implies a standard by which we judge it. If there were no standard of selflessness or altruism (good), we wouldn’t be able to identify or criticize selfishness (deviation from good). This suggests that even our understanding of self-interest is informed by an inherent knowledge of a moral law that esteems the welfare of others.

            So, while seeking personal good isn’t wrong, the moral law challenges us to balance these pursuits with the demands of justice, charity, and the good of others, pointing to a dimension of morality that transcends mere self-interest.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The pursuit of the collective interest is simply means to secure personal ones.
            See ants and their colony, seeing themselves as extensions of the colony because its well being is their well being.
            Patriots will "die for their country" like soldier ants thinking their interests will live on and be fulfilled by it.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      chatgpt Black person

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >This book really open my eyes and made me Christian.
      >Lewis Trilema
      a joke inside another joke kek
      go kiss sand Black folk crypto-christian.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >>This book really open my eyes and made me Christian.
        Trilema
        >a joke inside another joke kek
        >go kiss sand Black folk crypto-christian.

        I didn't even mention the trilema here.

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    There is no greater love than sacrificial
    love, we internally know that no matter what religion you are. If someone is willing to die to save you that is love. God is love

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