I'm getting into Hegel and he 'starts with the Greeks', which has got me wondering:

I'm getting into Hegel and he 'starts with the Greeks', which has got me wondering:
>Is Hegel's choice to start with the Greeks the only reason why most western approaches to world history and philosophy start with the Greeks?

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who else are westoids gonna start with?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Atlanteans

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's quite true that Hegel believes himself to be Jesus.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    World history begins with the first written records in Mesopotamia.
    The history of Western philosophy begins in Greece, Hegel starts with the Greeks like everybody else.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Western history starts with the Carolingian Renassaince

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mesopotmia is not part of the great conversation however so they are irrelevant. Plato and Aristotle weren’t responding to Gilgamesh.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Mesopotmia is not part of the great conversation however so they are irrelevant. Plato and Aristotle weren’t responding to Gilgamesh.
        >t. doesn't know

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >society evolves around the teachings, speakings, and musings of some Greek dudes.
    >only in the west.
    >this tradition gets carried on up to the present.
    >only in the west.
    >a new person comes along and wants to talk about western philosophy and possibly contribute something to it.
    >has to start with the greekz.

    It is a vicious but noble and just cycle anon.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    .We have started with the greeks (especially Plato, Aristotle, Plotinus and Proclus) for more than a thousands year, Hegel is definetely not the first to do so, nor the most influential.

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    we start with the Greeks because temporally that's when western philosophy began.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

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  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hegel did not start with the Greeks you polloi

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    hegel, and pretty much anyone, should start with the greeks as they happen to be the unironic starting point

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >reading hegel
    >literally can not comprehend what the frick he is saying at all

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      its just moronic proto-progressive shit about how history is "getting better" as time goes on
      no exaggeration
      >Verification not required.

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP has a point. Did Descartes start with the Greeks for example? The Renaissance went back to the classics, Aristotle was always there in scholasticism, but perhaps during the enlightenment the main thing was not to turn to the earliest philosophers; Weimar classicism, Sturm und Drang, and Romanticism influenced the rise of historicism and history of philosophy as an approach and discipline.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Descartes definitely read the classics, a good chunk of his discourses was him railing about how people should think for themselves and not be limited by classical thought. You clearly didn't read descartes.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        correct. he was literally trained in scholasticisn.

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, Hegel popularised historicism and invented depth philosophy, that ideas accrete depth through their intellectual development over history, hence why you need to study the history of an idea to understand the idea. He also lectured on the history of philosophy to give a particular understanding of how philosophy actually developed.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you need to study the history of an idea to understand the idea
      based and true. Also explains why contemporary "science" is moronic.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >he wasn't a member of the clergy
    moron you don't have to be clergy to go to university

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You do have to be a member of the clergy to dedicate yourself to rigorous, as opposed to merely literary, first philosophy. Descartes was at university only for law. He was never involved in Scholastic "disputationes", which were essential components of the overall method, which went well beyond just reading literature. Much of his life was lived as a mercenary as well.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You do have to be a member of the clergy to dedicate yourself to rigorous, as opposed to merely literary, first philosophy.
        lol ok
        *laughs in spinoza*

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