Is a fixed morality NPC tier?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. Freedom is the ability to follow the moral law.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Freedom is about making your own choices, not just following rules. Saying freedom means only following moral laws is wrong. It takes away your ability to choose for yourself. Different cultures have different moral rules, so whose rules do you follow? Sometimes moral rules contradict each other - freedom lets you figure that out yourself. Freedom gives you the power to question and change moral rules when needed. Freedom is bigger than any one set of moral laws.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Freedom is about making your own choices, not just following rules.
        Freedom is the ability to follow the moral law. Animals do what their instincts tell them. Humans are free to reason what the best course of action is.
        >Saying freedom means only following moral laws is wrong. It takes away your ability to choose for yourself.
        See above.
        >Different cultures have different moral rules, so whose rules do you follow?
        The Kantian of course as dictated by apriori reason alone.
        >Sometimes moral rules contradict each other - freedom lets you figure that out yourself. Freedom gives you the power to question and change moral rules when needed.
        No that's nonsense. You're describing not following rules which is an immoral act not a moral choice. Every animal can not follow moral rules.
        >Freedom is bigger than any one set of moral laws.
        Wrong.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you think freedom means staying out of prison?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Do I equate freedom to personal liberty? No.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then what do you equate it to? Having to follow anything is obviously not freedom.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The ability to start change or end a causal chain.
            A dog can choose between two meals but his choice is determined by what his instincts tell him to pursue.
            Rational beings can abstract themselves from all sensory input and decide on reason alone what the right choice is.

            >Having to follow anything is obviously not freedom.
            Having the ability to is. Think of it like this: Should I do the right thing or what my instincts want me to do? Humans are free to choose the right thing.
            Saying I'm free to not follow my freedom is nonsensical.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The ability to start change or end a causal chain.
            By this definition you have no freedom. Man is not the prime mover.

            >Having the ability to is. Think of it like this: Should I do the right thing or what my instincts want me to do? Humans are free to choose the right thing.
            Having to do the "right thing" refutes the premise.

            >Saying I'm free to not follow my freedom is nonsensical.
            I never said that. Infact this sounds like your argument.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >By this definition you have no freedom.
            Wrong.
            >Man is not the prime mover.
            Irrelevant and speculative.
            >Having to do the "right thing" refutes the premise.
            Now you're just running in circles.
            >I never said that. Infact this sounds like your argument.
            Do you even read what I say or do just pick random phrases to object to?
            Freedom means not being bound by circumstances that dictate behaviour. The rational choice.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Freedom is the ability to follow the moral law.
            Why add such a moronic caveat if you have to backtrack this hard.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't backtrack on that. That's the definition.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >not being bound by circumstances that dictate behaviour
            >follow the moral law
            Are you dumb?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I gave you sufficient examples to figure this out. You're just getting irrational out of anger.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >humans are free to choose option one
            >why are you being so irrational?

            moron.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    egoist morons are not worth arguing with
    they've already ontologically lost

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God is free. I am God. I am free.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you are a slave to whatever moronic hack philosophy you last read 2 comments about on reddit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seething is not a refutation.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if I pretend you're mad that means I win!!
            how can you pretend to break the chains of caring about morality when you can't even break the chains of caring about a IQfy post

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did you really think that sounded profound before you typed it?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if sentences more than 5 words long read as "trying to sound profound" to you then you might want to read something more advanced than Hooked on Phonics

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yawn.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'll pretend to not care by replying to show everyone on an anonymous imageboard how much I don't care
            real egoist behavior, not a slave to the opinions of others at all

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just you, it's just for you.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you implying that theists morality is fixed?
    But it's not.
    60 years ago we had different set of morals
    https://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/07/living/sixties-women-5-things/
    Theists praised society for these morals then.
    Today we have completely different set of morals and theists praise society for the again now. There are no more volatile things than theists morals.
    Ask Bible thumpers
    >Should women be able to get credit card without husbands permission?
    And you would see them melting.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Software updates.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moronic reply to a moronic thread
      "should women have credit cards" isn't a moral issue, it's a practical one

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a moral decision, is it right or wrong? Should we make it legal based on our morals?
        Theists believe it's right and wrong at the same time (sounds familiar? communists doublethink anyone?). Thus morals of theists are ever changing and can justify anything.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why is IQfy so full of absolute braindeads today

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I am seeing you are melting already.
            Explain to me you opinion from your moral point of view.
            >Should women be able to get credit card without husbands permission?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Explain to me your opinion from a moral point of view:
            >Should the UK adopt the standard European type-C electrical socket?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you melted.
            You have no courage to answer moral question about women rights, you are ready to accept any position that is imposed on you by society. Fixed morality? No. Ever-changing morality? Yes. Should we oppress women? Yes! Should we oppress women? No! Bible has answer for everything!

            No, because euro plug sucks no less than UK plug, adopting bad things is wrong.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you think parking laws are based on morals? Is it immoral to street-park after 5pm on weekends or something?
          Not everything is a moral issue. Not even going to bother with the rest of the incoherent nonsense you spewed out

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you think parking laws are based on morals?
            They do. They are based on society opinion that societie's interests trump individual interests when it comes to utilization of limited land recources and it's proper and just to limit individuals actions here.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's an explanation of the concept of legislating for the common good generally, not how specific parking laws are created. That's a practical issue. It's not inherently right or wrong to leave a delivery van idling for upwards of 10 minutes, but it can be impractical.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >That's an explanation of the concept of legislating for the common good generall
            So women's oppression during 60s was common good or not? Women's freedom today is common good know? Moral stance on that common good made 180 degree turn on that question.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most people don't have fixed morality and are instead driven by post-hoc justification of gut feelings.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree. What does it mean then? Is morality an illusion?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I supposed it depends on if you're religious or not.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Of course, the illusion seems real to one unaware or unawake.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    Every thread you don't agree with is the worst thread in existence.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is OP trying to simultaneously argue that christians are bad because they have fixed moral stances and that christians are bad because their morals can change

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is a fixed morality npc tier? That's the question.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are several different anons ITT, anon.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never understood how Christian morality works
    Like, I ought not do a thing, because God says not to

    Why should I care what God says?
    What I SHOULD do, is act according to my goals and desires

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Under the framework of replacement theology; explain why either the Law of Moses or Jesus' commandments are objectionable. Oh wait. You can't. Subjective morality, and such.

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