Is hard drive failure a meme? I want to get a 12tb hdd but am afraid of losing it all if it decides to die on me.

Is hard drive failure a meme? I want to get a 12tb hdd but am afraid of losing it all if it decides to die on me.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What could you possibly need 12 tb of storage for

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stuff

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        put the torrent down anon you haven't read the 5 million other epubs, pdfs and high-res scans of manga you already pirated.
        that said just buy two and set up a raid. problem solved.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stuff

      It's always porn.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't watch porn

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      data hoarding

      I have... 20+TB on my NAS, but roughly 10 of it is useable because I mirror my drives.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cultural preservation

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It can happen to you.

    You can get multiple HDDs and raid them together but its important to remember that RAID protects you from downtime but proper backups protect you from actual data loss. Look up 3 2 1 backups. The best bang for your buck would be to keep a spare PC with an equal amount of storage at someones house with a replication job that syncs data across the two. Just in case your house burns down or your drive dies or something. Ideally follow 3 2 1 to a T but it can be expensive to buy that much storage so just an offsite copy is a lot of protection, especially if its RAIDed just so you dont find yourself without backups if one your drives does die.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you're responding at entirely the wrong level. he doesn't need 321 backups to protect his 11 TBs of Vortigaunt porn.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        can you blame him though? he cute

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Look up 3 2 1 backups
      mfw I've been doing this for ages, now I know the name

      https://i.imgur.com/Lp5p5GJ.jpeg

      Is hard drive failure a meme? I want to get a 12tb hdd but am afraid of losing it all if it decides to die on me.

      not a meme, you also need to be aware of bit rot so use multiple drives with something like par2
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_degradation

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How can I build a RAID setup with as little money as possible?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Buy an 1TB or higher SSD, they do NAND RAID. That's actually how they're able to transfer stuff at 1-4 GB/s.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that's why people buy multiple drives, do RAID, make backups etc. hard drive failure is like radioactive decay. it WILL happen, but there's no knowing if it'll happen a millisecond or 10 years later.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should assume that any disk can irrecoverably fail at any time for any reason, and plan appropriately.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cloest I've ever gotten was a salvaged laptop drive, I think from a 2009 Macbook. Put it in a home server, it clicked constantly about once every 3-4 seconds. Performed just fine for years and years before I scapped the whole server in a rebuild. I still have it, it's just not hooked up.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've been using 18tb hdds for over two years without issues now.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    copy the hard to replace stuff onto a dvd/bluray and back everything up onto tape.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stress test it initially. if it can survive badblocks there's a 99% chance it'll survive for another 10 years.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Stress test it initially. if it can survive badblocks there's a 99% chance it'll survive for another 10 years.
      this. plugged in a 12 year old Hitachi HDD to see if it worked still. Hitachi got bought out 12 years ago by WD and the drive can be read to and written to, still, to this day. would I trust storing any data on there I care about? not a chance, but the fact that it's possible is amusing when shills constantly froth at the mouth mentioning bitrot, drive failure, etc. to get others to consume more. It's tiring

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Someone in another thread attested to recovering over 90% off a drive from ~1990, it's just ssd shills

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy two
    One for data, one for backup

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HDDs aren't as reliable as SSDs because they have mechanical moving parts that fail over time. There's abosolutely no way to know if this failure will happen in year 1 or 5.

    SSDs in comparison have a TBW metric that's 99% reliable. You'll know your SSD is prone to failure once you burn up 90% of your TBW. Which at least for 1TB or higher capacity SSDs is a very hard thing to do within your lifetime.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Aren't HDDs better for cold storage than SSDs because SSDs need to be powered every so often to retain their data?
      For weekly or monthly backups, SSDs are fine, but if I wanted a drive to load up and throw in a closet, I'd go with spinning rust.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Store your SSD in a fridge.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        in both cases I'd recommend monthly drive health checks and refreshes. for SSDs you should probably read up on the best way to do this, but personally I don't see why you'd do cold storage on SSDs based on price alone

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          cold storage prolongs electrical charges, be they what you find in SSDs and EEPROMs or disposable alkaline batteries.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is hard drive failure a meme
    yes
    you're completely fine with 8 of these in RAID0; the rest of your electronics will fail long before any one of these does
    don't listen to the doomers, they're just paid shills trying to get you to buy more hard drives for ~~*redundancy*~~

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You need backups.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That is so fricking gay. So whenever I buy a hard drive I will need a hard drive for my hard drive?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you want storage that simply never fails and lasts forever?
        well if you find it im sure a lot of companies and governments will pay you top dollar for it

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

    i have 2x 2TB and one 4TB Western Digital Blues dead. They both ate the newer ones. The 3 died in less than 2 years. Bought back in 2020.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it WILL happen eventually
    to ALL drives
    https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-2023/

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My WD Green I bought way back in the day has 62k power on hours.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get 4 3tb hhd's and configure them with RAID-10. Then, make sure to get an external device to store copies of your files safely. RAID 1, 5 or 10 can help you protecting your data from loss. However, if you have the choice, get yourself a NAS or configure your own server to store copies of all your data safely.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All storage fails, it's just a question of when. If you have 12TB of irreplaceable data then you need at least 26TB of storage: 12TB primary, 12TB on-site backup, 12TB off-site backup. Anything other than that is objectively wrong.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It took well over a decade for my hard drive to fail.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hdd fail is a thing, crashboombang hdd might make two years in service, nice ones six years and then there are lucky ones that make it almost forever

    serious datahoarder probably has dock where to drop hdd, write it full, drop next hdd, etc

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't ever buy a big drive, unless you can afford to buy more than one.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Western Digital drives are reliable, unlikely to fail too soon, but you are an idiot if you don't buy two just in case you are one of the few unlucky people whose drive dies soon. There's no substitute for full backups, as other anons said/would say.
    At minimum, expect 8-10 years of life out of the thing. After the tenth year, it will likely continue to work, but your odds of it suddenly dying on you start ramping up over time. As a rule of thumb, replace the drive after those first 8-10 years just to be on the safe side.

    SSDs are also reliable, especially more modern ones, but they cannot hold those miniscule charges in every sector/cell/whatever forever without a power source. I read that SSDs should be recharged every 5 years at least by doing a full, slow format of the drive. Microchips and the little capacitors you can see on SSDs themselves don't last forever, there's no knowing how your odds of failure start ramping up and when. There's some amount of decade-old SSDs and more out there still functioning, I know that my two test drives with Win10pro installs for testing equipment are nearly a decade old (though have been in my possession for only a year) and still going strong, though they really only see occasional use.

    But for bang for the buck in backup drives, a HDD is the way to go.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Limit your failure domain, buy multiple 1tb/2tb or 4tb drives. Personally I stick to 1tb, I'd rather have a stack of those than one massive failure. I also try to buy them from different places in the off chance that a bad batch make it to the same shelf. I think I got about 10 years out of my first 4TB WD drive.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >afraid of losing it all if it decides to die on me.
    thats why you need multiple drives for data integrity and backup

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my samsung SSD failed on me after less than 2 months while I was in college and it wiped out my entire archive

    hard drive failure is common if you're not a protected israelite

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just RAID until you have 12 TB, it will help with the Source engine stutter.

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