Is it possible to geo engineer a forest in the desert? Like mutating a tree or new ways of getting water?

Is it possible to geo engineer a forest in the desert? Like mutating a tree or new ways of getting water?
I mean, the saudis have the money if its actually possible

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't they just used to the desert? Why the frick would they need forests?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dune said you need a lot of water

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're already doing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziGN8HXdj6U

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That was just an experiment, they are not doing it in any meaningful scale. It makes zero economic sense, for the saudis its a lot easier to just sell oil and buy grain.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are transitioning to what is basically clever landscaping to retain rain from the wet season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKO7Pi5SpYY

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bullshit. Potemkin village tier bullshit.
          Theres no reason to even attempt this terraforming shit. It will always be cheaper to just buy grain in international markets.
          Saudis dont actually have that much money and can only afford to waste so much until they fall short.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Holup. If they retain water, wouldn't their underground oil be mixed with water doe

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its underground because of the impenetrable layers of bedrock isolating it from anything above.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    even if they built large artificial rivers and forests the water would evaporate and transpire out of the system. you'd have to constantly pump water in

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, just add more CO2 into the air

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It may be possible if the conditions that originally caused dessertification are no longer present or artificially supressed.
    If the conditions (arid climate) are still present you'd need a fresh waster supply. Since you don't have infinite fresh water and no topsoil you'd want to start with the most undemanding and hardy plants there are, succulents, shrubs... whatever prevents erosion, covers the ground, limits evaporation and produces organic matter. On the organic matter: Many desserts are likely devoid of many minerals too, in this case you'll have to provide the minerals. Theres concepts where wet fences can provide evaporative cooling, humidification, shading and limit windspeed. You' then probably want to include more and more increasingly complex and demanding plants that will provide additional shading and locking of moisture, prevent erosion, fix nitrogen, form deeper roots and so on.
    Unless the climate naturally isn't arid anymore you'll have to keep providing water artificially but it will become less through your efforts and you'll probably have to keep providing nutrients that arent available, some even after top soil has formed. But the point is that maintenance goes down as fauna gets a foothold.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you have no idea what you're talking about

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sure bud.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The saudis may have money, but they are so utterly devoid of talent its unreal

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Saudis dont have that much money. They are just hyped. Their oil exports bring them about 100 billion dollars, compare with Italy that exports 700 billion dollars. They just seem rich for Black person standards, plus the saudis one is likely to meet will be the rich ones.
      UAE is unironically richer but its because of foreign investment. They have maxxed on PR and hobnobbing with the powerful

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Purely it's problem easy for engineers solve, but our physicists are still too stupid to solve the energy problem.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Saudi arabia has a mountainous region near yemen that gets plenty of rain

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Asir mountains in Saudi Arabia. All natural, this is not some govt project

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    probably not even necessary; I vaguely recall a documentary on the Arabian peninsula being a massive grassland a few millennia ago. it's got something to do with certain regional weather patterns created by all the different bodies of water around it; these patterns ebb and flow but basically puts the region between wet cycles and dry cycles.

    don't recall the details

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wonder if it was the same change that created the Sahara. The good thing about these areas that were green in human history is that the soil is full of organic matter, so if you can solve the water issue, you could convert it into forest, grasslands, or something similar. Contrast that with most of the desert in Australia where the soil is almost completely devoid of organics and all adding a bunch of water would do is make it muddy.

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