Is literature the highest tier of art? I think maybe only architecture can come close. My personal ranking is:

Is literature the highest tier of art? I think maybe only architecture can come close. My personal ranking is:

1, literature
2, architecture
3, music
4, performing
4, sculpture
6, painting
7, cinema (not real art)

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    games combine all of those so they should be #1

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      No.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Games are like movies. An assortment of all real arts but doing all of them worse than they'd individually be.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        painting are really shitty movies with only 1 frame that takes forever to make

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine ignoring the best images ever created in order to have hundreds of thousands of utterly mediocre images flashed in front of your eyes for a fraction of a second.
          It's much better just to look at the best ones.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            What metric do you measue the greatest images of all time by? What characteristics must they posses in order to qualify? Can you conclusively state that I havent seen the greatest images of all time and they weren't Lisa Ann's ass and breasts in 'Who's Nailin' Palin'?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah but we gotta let midwits who collect books keep their superiority complex

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      1. music
      2. cinema
      3. vidya
      4. painting
      5. photography
      6. architecture
      7. literature (not really art)

      1. interactive art (gaming)
      2. slam poetry
      3. sculpture
      4. pantomime
      5. sock puppetry & ventriloquy
      5. Eurythmy
      6. Interpretive macaroni art
      7. the shit where they make elvis or some guy out of rubiks cubes
      8. photography
      9. disco music
      10. literature (not real art)

      Video-games will never be art. Grow up.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Books will never be useful. Grow up.
        same energy

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Video-games will never be art. Grow up.
        Anon I...

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          game's mid. I guess it's great if you are a college kid in your rebellious phase

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >game's mid.
            That may be true, but it is still art.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Shitty communist point and click, play a real rpg like Planescape Torment instead, at least

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can like both

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It amazes me that morons like you still exist.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Icycalm's a moron, but this points the right way.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ah yes, comics are a more sublime medium than music, such a useful insight.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. Run around the tropical island of Storm Point on Apex Legends killing opponents with your R99 submachine gun and tell me that isn't art of the highest caliber.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      HEAVY EMPHASIS ON "SHOULD"

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. music
    2. cinema
    3. vidya
    4. painting
    5. photography
    6. architecture
    7. literature (not really art)

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    music is the highest form of art

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can't imagine actually enjoying music itself. To me the best it can be is background noise while I do something better.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        then you're not appreciating music

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Obviously music you moron

          music and poetry are joint first, obviously
          architecture is an interesting one because function is more important than form, but of course the most beautiful are also the most functional

          What's so good about music? It's just a bunch of noises. "muh it makes me feel le good" but so does everything else that also has some added value.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            because it's essentially mathematics plus time

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Neither of those is art.

            Are you legitimately autistic?
            I understand not liking certain genres or styles or music but writing off the whole art form is bizarro.

            It's not that I don't like music, I just don't understand the notion behind it being the highest form of art when it gives you less than pretty much all the rest. And nobody could explain it so far.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it's not that I don't like music
            Ahh gotcha. I think music is super universal because people love noticing patterns, and that's basically all music is, a series of sound patterns repeating themselves. Music has much more emotion and feeling tied to it than the other arts, not sure how or why exactly, it just is.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you legitimately autistic?
            I understand not liking certain genres or styles or music but writing off the whole art form is bizarro.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            When normal people listen to music, it's like scratching an itch at the back of their minds. It's intensely satisfying when it's their preferred genre, a good song is better than bad sex

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hylic

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >i have no arguments, but i am mad

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You're a hylic if you don't think sensitive hypnosis is good!
          Why do you think most religions barely tolerate it?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        How is that even possible? Are you a literal golem? Music is the best thing man created. The sound of a bagpipe, without it life would be a mistake.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody in the fricking world just sits down and listens to music for an extended period of time. Literally nobody. You're listening to music while doing something else. Even just thinking about something, or fantasizing, but the focus isn't the music itself. This is unlike every other kind of art. Music is just background. A noise that sets the mood, or evoke the right kind of emotion, to channel that emotion into something else.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Please do not troll when your specific ironies clearly show you love the glory in music.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >concert
            You aren't focusing on the music, you're focusing on the atmosphere. It's fun because you're listening to it with other people around you. A concert without audience, sitting there alone, would be the most boring hour of your life.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            2/10 troll, for the effort

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >unable to disprove me
            As expected by the "muhh uhh feelings" crowd

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I would kill for a concert hall all to myself. Only if the music is good, not pop trash like rock and roll or hip hop. Of course for that garbage you need other degenerates around to wallow with in the muck.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Nobody in the fricking world just sits down and listens to music for an extended period of time. Literally nobody.
            That's actually what I and a lot of people do, what the hell are you rambling about...

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            See

            Please do not troll when your specific ironies clearly show you love the glory in music.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Try Steely Dan

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. Illiterate

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    music and poetry are joint first, obviously
    architecture is an interesting one because function is more important than form, but of course the most beautiful are also the most functional

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously music you moron

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    music is, in general, the highest form of art. but the greatest poetry stands above everything else both in terms of quality and difficulty

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, seeing as the greatest artist of all time is a novelist, I guess I'll have to go with literature.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Music
    2. Cinema
    3. Performance
    4. Painting
    5. Sculpture
    6. Architecture
    7. Literature

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You know that saying “it’s like comparing apples and oranges” you learned when you were 5? Time to trot that out.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m partial towards novels, but a part of me has to admit music and poetry may be the superior art-forms, music for the purity and inexplicability of what it does — moving us to deep emotions with sound alone (in the case of non-lyrical music, at least, or the orchestration even for lyrical music, or the very way in which the singing makes you feel emotions), in some cases transcendentally complex forms of feeling which can hardly be explained why it’s moving us so. The best architecture is also very moving on a grand scale like few other forms of art can be, like the greatest temples, churches, Gothic cathedrals, the Pyramids, the Taj Mahal, some Sufi mosques, and the like, and closely allied to it would be sculpture. I can’t really rate them in a list, I don’t feel qualified to. Some people love cinema and painting, and I’ve been moved by these and can note many instances of them I see as beautiful or very technically accomplished, but for some reason my sense of being awed by them has never been as strong as my appreciation for other art-forms, although they are some of the first things people think of when they think “art”, so I am in agreement with rating them lower (simply as a subjective judgment) while knowing I couldn’t create anything like its best productions and admitting the talent needed to do so.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i come bearing bad news for fans of (actual) cinema ITT: hou hsiao hsien has alzheimers and will be making no more films

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      we know, it's a damn shame

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Storytelling
    2. Architecture/sculpture/functional artistic works like a well made and adorned knife
    3. paintings/drawings/2d images
    4. Pure aesthetics (in any medium)

    If you think that the *medium* through which a story is being told is more important than the content and individual quality of that story, then you're a pretentious dweeb who gets no b***hes. aesthetic-only art has it's place in my opinion, but it's less important or valuable unless it has at least some subtlety or story.

    All art must have a baseline of skill/objective "quality" to be art, so you can't just dump a pile of cow shit in a gallery and call yourself an "artist" because you weren't skilled enough at anything to make a decent representation of whatever mind-blowing concept you have in your head.

    Therefore, The Witcher 3 is objectively better art than "to kill a Mockingbird", sue me

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. interactive art (gaming)
    2. slam poetry
    3. sculpture
    4. pantomime
    5. sock puppetry & ventriloquy
    5. Eurythmy
    6. Interpretive macaroni art
    7. the shit where they make elvis or some guy out of rubiks cubes
    8. photography
    9. disco music
    10. literature (not real art)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      finally, a decent list here

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Pure aesthetics (in any medium)
    2. paintings/drawings/2d images
    3. Architecture/sculpture/functional artistic works like a well made and adorned knife
    4. Storytelling

    If you think that the medium through which a story is being told is less important than the *content* and individual quality of that story, then you're an uneducated fool who gets no b***hes. story-centric art has it's place in my opinion, but it's less important or valuable unless it has at least some subtlety or intricacy in its delivery.

    All art must have a baseline of skill/objective "quality" to be art, so you can't just think up a bunch of characters and some plot and call yourself an "artist" because you weren't skilled enough at anything to make a decent representation of whatever mind-blowing concept you have in your head.

    Therefore, "to kill a Mockingbird" is objectively better art than The Witcher 3, sue me

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Therefore, "to kill a Mockingbird" is objectively better art than The Witcher 3, sue me
      False according to your own argument. Writing a good physics engine alone is much harder than writing a great novel.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        fair enough but the point of my post was to highlight the fact that the post that I was mocking consisted only of assertions and no arguments, thus could be tweaked ever so slightly to make the opposite point

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No music is

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. All religious art
    2. Music
    3. Drama
    4. Poetry
    5. Literature in general
    6. Visual and plastic arts

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The reason videogames will never be art is the fact that they're interactive. Nobody treats them as art either, that's why modding community exists. What other form of art is being altered by its consumers for fun? Less interactive games, such as walking simulators or visual novels could become art, but they also lack something significant: the artist itself. Cinema and architecture aren't created by a single artist either, but still, they usually convey the vision of a single artist, while it's rarely true in the case of videogames. They're also never really 'done' as a piece of art is supposed to be. Other forms of art aren't getting constantly updated.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Nobody treats them as art either, that's why modding community exists. What other form of art is being altered by its consumers for fun?

      Be careful with this line of argument. Music, and *especially* serious forms of it, has involved a culture incorporating improvisation for centuries. Likewise, translation of poetry and reinterpretation of paintings involve active attempts to recreate the essence of a work in new forms.

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think schopenhauer had it right when he ranked the arts on the level of abstraction they were capable of.

    music>literature>dramatic arts > visual arts> architecture.
    That said I think he was too quick to impose the strictness of this hierarchy -- literature is capable of certain modes of abstract that music is not, and so they deserve a coequal status, when NOT commingled.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now we're talking.

      So why is music uniquely capable of this level of abstraction in your estimation? Can't holography, even theoretically, achieve equivalent levels of abstraction?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Music is devoid of referential content (unless crammed in, like wagner does), so it's beauty is in no way "borrowed" from the rest of the world. Meanwhile, representative visual art in some meaningful but not absolute sense borrows from the objects represented. Particularly true of Sculpture.

        As for Holography: I'll answer that question in 50 years when it looks better

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Holography already Is, midwit, just as some forms of strong AI already Are.

          >so it's beauty is in no way "borrowed" from the rest of the world.
          Its borrowed from the musician's mind and our meaning when we perceive and interpret it. In between that, music is just phenomena in the world.

          Not appreciating the sound of something is not the same as not understanding something because it's in Chinese

          Another petty midwit contention to be discarded like the previous anon. The problem with you idiots is that you spew your dumb youtube-informed opinions, that you thought about for half a minute, yet are certain of, and do not even begin to open your minds to open questions.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >midwitmidwidmidwit waaa
            >still haven't had a single worthwhile post, just meritless shitting on others
            Yep, this anon has no arguments, but is angry.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Mine

    1. Music
    2. Cinema
    3. Performance
    4. Painting
    5. Sculpture
    6. Architecture
    7. Literature

    is based on a combination of direct impact on the soul, reliance on verbal language and geographic reach, and tools required or 'purity'

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're moronic. We're on the verge of truly seamless LLM translators, and you rated literature at the bottom.

      I think schopenhauer had it right when he ranked the arts on the level of abstraction they were capable of.

      music>literature>dramatic arts > visual arts> architecture.
      That said I think he was too quick to impose the strictness of this hierarchy -- literature is capable of certain modes of abstract that music is not, and so they deserve a coequal status, when NOT commingled.

      has the right idea.

      Another thing we should heed is a medium's potential, and its current state.

      For that, drama (including cinema) and interactive art (including video games) have extreme potential, but due to the current fashion of making their works pander to common taste, they lack the masterpieces that would make them recognizable as the great mediums they are.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Before any of you homosexual hurrdurr muh kino pseuds respond, most people who praise cinema do so for the wrong reasons and overrate it, and people who underrate it don't understand its vast potential for integrating all art forms and burst with meaning with every cut, which still hasn't properly been done yet.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >integrating all art forms
          That's its problem, mashing together multiple forms of art in one mass inherently devalues each. The end result can never be as good as a single piece of art, because they will never be in perfect harmony with each other.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Give, in aesthetic suppositions, why you erroneously believe this stupid opinion. You might as well say the sum of reality has less fidelity than music.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but art is fundamentally an abstraction of reality through a limited medium. a painter trying to distill a landscape into two dimensions, a musician trying to represent complex emotion in sound. Video games are "art" in a way that anything can be art, but because they have so few limits they are inherently flawed, especially because the observer drives the outcome. At least that's my opinion.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Not him but art is fundamentally an abstraction of reality through a limited medium.
            This is better than other responses, so I'll treat you with respect.
            1. Why do you insist that art has to be limited? Based on what rational suppositions? Or because people define arbitrary limits on what an art work is?
            2. VG absolutely have limits, which are bounded to their extensions within digitization and our mind.
            3. Would a genetically engineered pegasus be considered a work of art? Would its limits in its behavior and in breeding to propagate itself mean that it's more or less limited than other works of art?

            needing translation at all is a problem in itself

            Your ear unironically interprets the order in sound, which is basically translation. We're accustomed to certain sounds being considered orderly. You have learned to appreciate wider ranges of music over time. You still have yet to appreciate all the kinds of music you eventually will. The same applies to language. Think about that.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not appreciating the sound of something is not the same as not understanding something because it's in Chinese

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            A tragically German-brained pseud take. Everything must be walled from each other... because... reasons!

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        needing translation at all is a problem in itself

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        My intuition tells me that music has the highest "aesthetic-ceiling" compared to all of the mediums of art, as (particularly instrumental) music seems to be able to circumnavigate the intellect to hit the emotions in a very effective way.

        >For that, drama (including cinema) and interactive art (including video games) have extreme potential, but due to the current fashion of making their works pander to common taste, they lack the masterpieces that would make them recognizable as the great mediums they are.
        I assume Cinema and Vidya rarely reach their full potential because of the financial logistics of collaborative mediums. Even in places with economic systems opposed to the now dominant one (the Soviet Union) artists such as Anderi Tarkovsky and the guy who made Tetris, had difficulties in making works that left impact. It seems to me that mid-budget cinema and low-budget vidya on average have the highest concentration of great works in their respective mediums.
        Good videos on Vidya:

        https://web.archive.org/web/20211221105545/https://youtube.com/watch?v=wvwlt4FqmS0
        https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QCYMH-lp4oM
        https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MvJPKOLDSos

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >music seems to be able to circumnavigate the intellect to hit the emotions in a very effective way.
          Music is arguably limited to emotiveness, and doesn't reach abstraction to the level that writing does.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >that writing does.
            Rather, that verbal art does.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Music is arguably limited to emotiveness
            >emotiveness
            >abstraction
            Can you define emotiveness and abstraction, please? I have no idea what you're talking about.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >literally the most abstract creative medium
            >doesn't reach abstraction to the level of meaningful sentences composed of words
            Black person please, even poetry is more abstract than literature.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are video games capable of being "great" art?

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I work in machine learning research. Absolutely no forms of Strong AI exist in any even partially meaningful sense. The modern use of the term is a buzzword funded by the company who made Chat GPT to get their corporate valuation higher.
    You have bad reading comprehension -- I said holography looked like shit, not that it didn't exist.
    Nothing is "borrowed" from the musician's mind -- The music one hears could just as well be a hallucination as a live performance and it should have the same effect. The beauty of a painting of a tree doesn't just come from the physical object of the painting, but from trees themselves, the way they make us feel. Music is direct; the arrangement of sound is all there is, and all that matters is the interaction of the listener's mind with it. It requires no external reference to be appreciated, once again, unlike the painting of the tree.

    Every midwit's favorite word is midwit.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I work in machine learning research.
      It doesn't show, and even if you do, you're low level.

      >You have bad reading comprehension -- I said holography looked like shit, not that it didn't exist.
      When did I say you said it didn't exist, idiot?

      >Nothing is "borrowed" from the musician's mind
      Okay, so according to you, an artwork is in no sense coextensive and has nothing to do with its maker.
      >the arrangement of sound is all there is, and all that matters is the interaction of the listener's mind with it.
      So if we're able to be coextensive with a song, why isn't its musician able to?

      >It requires no external reference to be appreciated
      It doesn't, but it always has a referent that it's coextensive to, and it most certainly can be appreciated with referents.

      You're just repeating things I already know about AI, and I'm aware of its semantics.

      You're not very good at this philosophy thing.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >When did I say you said it didn't exist, idiot?
        Now I see why you thought that. Haven't read Heidegger, I take it?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          To clarify, why do you think I capitalized the verbs?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've read more Heidegger than you. You haven't read a single thing post-turn. Being & Time is not the be-all end-all of metaphysics. It's a failure, though instructive.
            "low level" is hardly what my paycheck entails.
            You capitalized the verbs because you're a schizophrenic who thinks English conversation is German philosophy. You reply to your own posts.

            >I work in machine learning research.
            It doesn't show, and even if you do, you're low level.

            >You have bad reading comprehension -- I said holography looked like shit, not that it didn't exist.
            When did I say you said it didn't exist, idiot?

            >Nothing is "borrowed" from the musician's mind
            Okay, so according to you, an artwork is in no sense coextensive and has nothing to do with its maker.
            >the arrangement of sound is all there is, and all that matters is the interaction of the listener's mind with it.
            So if we're able to be coextensive with a song, why isn't its musician able to?

            >It requires no external reference to be appreciated
            It doesn't, but it always has a referent that it's coextensive to, and it most certainly can be appreciated with referents.

            You're just repeating things I already know about AI, and I'm aware of its semantics.

            You're not very good at this philosophy thing.

            > it doesn't, but
            No buts needed, my point stands.

            > blah blah coextensivity
            Not necessary to the thrust of my arguments.

            If not for the love of Christ for all, you should have a nice day.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I see a lot of big claims from you, but nothing to show for it. You say German philosophy is weird, but you're a living example of its kind of autism.

            >No buts needed, my point stands.
            No it doesn't, because you don't see the real point.
            >>It requires no external reference to be appreciated
            >It doesn't, but it always has a referent that it's coextensive to,
            I phrased it like this because I wasn't aware you believed in God. How can you say there's no external referent, when God's mind is the ultimate source of music? Even in the context of God-derived or naturally-occurring music, music is always the product of a conscious or orderly source that affects its production, ordering, and reception. Its coextensiveness with these ultimately mean that its referents are always involved with a song's appreciation.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Every autist's favorite word is autism.

            Graduate from undergrad why don't you.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            This
            >Music is devoid of referential content (unless crammed in, like wagner does), so it's beauty is in no way "borrowed" from the rest of the world.
            Is an undergrad-tier opinion, and as I showed through its existence in God's mind and precedentially in nature, is an incoherent claim. Especially if you believe in God, as was implied. Still haven't integrated theology with your worldview, right?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            In time, when your ego is done healing from its bruises, you'll know anon was right.

            So, in conclusion, low-level AI-researcher anon never integrated two major sources of his thinking, and rushed headfirst into a discussion, outing himself as a midwit.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >falseflagging
            >samegayging
            >schizoposting
            >not a single actual point made
            It's over for anon.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he puts le secret message into le IQfy post
            lmfao and this person calls others midwits

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're double digit IQ.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            And you're an autistic reddit immigrant.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The music one hears could just as well be a hallucination as a live performance and it should have the same effect. The beauty of a painting of a tree doesn't just come from the physical object of the painting, but from trees themselves, the way they make us feel.
      You're taking a while to respond, so I'll respond to this. Every note we use already happened countless times in the wind. So yes, music derives from nature itself, to say the least. And artists most certainly do affect the interpretation of nature when they make art, whether its flourishes in music, or the style they use in art. You're unable to make the connection yet, because you're just a narrow-minded midwit.

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is cinema not a real art? Why is performing above sculptures and paintings?

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you still there anon? I don't care about the insults, because I'm the most self-aware anon in the world, and don't have an actual ego on the internet.

    We can continue the discussion. You'll learn more from me that way, and be a better Christian whose worldview is actually consistent with potent theology.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      kys homosexual

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    In time, when your ego is done healing from its bruises, you'll know anon was right.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You project thin skin. If you think any sane adult stakes his self-concept on a IQfy thread, you're in for a lifetime of hardship.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then make a serious post about media theory. You have yet to do so. There's nothing stopping you, aside from your midwit limitations.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You seem to lack a fundamental understanding of the nature of this thread.
          I am not interested in engaging with you further, and so after this, I won't.
          You are not some Socratic gadfly, prompting the self-duled Athenians to reflection.
          Sane and well-adjusted people do not come on to IQfy to demonstrate the unification of their Ontotheology.
          People have ignored you all your life for the same reason I intend to.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You are not some Socratic gadfly, prompting the self-duled Athenians to reflection.
            Thank you, thank you. This is the greatest compliment I have received in a while.

            >People have ignored you all your life for the same reason I intend to.
            People respond positively to me all the time. You're one of the few to shut down, because your ego is enclosed and unphilosophical.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not that insufferable anon, but he's right about music originating from God, like all the other arts, if you believe in God.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then make a serious post about media theory. You have yet to do so. There's nothing stopping you, aside from your midwit limitations.

        For the record, you definitely do. All I did was suggest you're not as smart as you think you are. You suggested suicide in response, which is hardly proportionate. But that tells me it's on your mind. If you take nothing else from this thread, just remember you are loved by God, and don't think about it.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you are loved by God
          Alhamdulillah. Allah loves all.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you Muslim? Where is the Islamic world's fiqh going with its relation to art?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >But that tells me it's on your mind. If you take nothing else from this thread, just remember you are loved by God, and don't think about it.

          [...]

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    1 - music
    2 - literature
    3 - painting
    4 - sculpture
    5 - architecture
    6 - cinema

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Martial Arts
    2. Everything else

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Theatre & Poetry
    2. Literature
    3. Music
    4. Film
    5. everything else (irrelevant)

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw not a single civie mentioned culinary arts

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      something that gets transformed into literal feces after consumption is not an "art"

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sometimes it is. Try to define why material arranged for aesthetic purposes can't be art, and see why that would invalidate every other medium as art, you idiot.

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jigs and yids confirming the stereotype is a delicious form of art.

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >performing above cinema
    Are you stupid?

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    olfactory art.

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Art is any media that can effectively change someone's perspective.
    If it makes you think, it's art.
    If it brings you joy, it's fun.
    Art and fun are not mutually exclusive, but you can have one without the other.
    In every field there exists people who go out of their way to make 'Art' which is neither fun nor thought provoking. They'll appeal to basic b***h things like 'Revenge is Bad' or 'Equality good'.
    My point here is that all mediums have their highs and their lows. There is no highest tier because they all have infinite possiblity, limited only by their creators.

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So, I understand how can someone get into literature or cinema. I know where to learn about music or performing. Even architecture is somewhat easy to grasp. But where the frick I learn about how to evaluate painting and sculpting? They can be so abstract that I get utterly filtered. How do I know if the picture I see is good, when often the highest rated paintings are shit anyone could draw, while photo-realistic art is just uninteresting? How do I know if a sculpture is art? I know about sculptures made in Rome, but has there any significant piece been made in the past 100 years?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I know if the picture I see is good, when often the highest rated paintings are shit anyone could draw
      if its clearly shit with low standards then people are clearly being lied to

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How do I know if the picture I see is good
      https://youtube.com/shorts/LSszOxJiP0Q?si=xWZB9O66cVLmJxrq

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's got to be architecture since it's the only one no one will give the job to AI anytime soon.

  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Art in general is for homosexual pseuds.

  36. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is because all it gives you are words, it's up to you to imagine everything. That's why it's also the biggest pleb filter filter of arts.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That makes imagination the greatest medium, idiot.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't know what a medium is.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Define medium so we can sort this.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It has already been defined.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You define it.

            I'm waiting anon. Don't disappoint like all the others.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            No need.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            No need, then, to think you actually know things, you cowardly pseud.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            How can you call anyone a pseud while using commas like that?

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How tf do you even compare it and however you would why tf is Architecture second are you actaualy moronic? besides you cant rank them without seing and remembering every piece of art in every tier how would you know if you have just seen some mid ass paintings and they fukcing merge togheter this is so stupid annon go do something productive

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      what could be more useful than learning about the nature of art

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How tf do you even compare it
      reasonable

      >besides you cant rank them without seing and remembering every piece of art in every tier
      dumb

      >this is so stupid annon go do something productive
      reasonable since op didnt actually debate anything useful

  38. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It do not matter

  39. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >everyone saying music
    Why are you all here? There's an entire IQfy board dedicated to discussing music. Wrong board

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >first thing I see is the kpop general
      truly the highest form of art

  40. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i never would have guessed that the single most moronic thread with the most absolute dogshit takes i've ever seen would be on the literature board

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    music
    painting
    poetry
    lit

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Architecture is full of pseuds quoting philosophy etc with no understanding and also having stem envy.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's basically engineering innit?

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