Is mind internal or external, you sense the external and it arrives internal but it is external information, and mind, the mental pendulum swing of co...

Is mind internal or external, you sense the external and it arrives internal but it is external information, and mind, the mental pendulum swing of conscious experience, is found within this information. So is mind therefore external?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've always perceived that uncertainty and certainty are being experienced in a conjoint illusion.
    More scientifically, this would describe the electrical state of the brain.
    The brain is an incomplete electrical state but what gives it completeness is the intervention of neurons. The electrical state can grow or prune neurons which then shape the electrical state, however the electrical state cannot modify itself and is an open loop.

    It would sort of make sense if the quality of electrical state of the brain is such that it fuzzies the quantum field.
    None of this micro-tubule magic simulation theory esoterics.

    More like the universe gets confused about what exactly the brain's electrical state is, being a bit nondeterministic through the structure imposed by interaction with neurons.
    This then fuzzies the quantum field and the deterministic qualities of the brain being to "leak" beyond quantum horizons.

    Basically, there's a very thin layer of your brain's mundane electrical determinism that hides from the universe due to speed of light horizons. Which means these mundane computational states are "hidden" from the universe.
    I assume consciousness is this.
    Something metaphysically disconnected from real determinism, although it is itself deterministic.

    This part hidden from the universe, but known to the mind, creates a sort of virtual knowledge and it manifests the experience of consciousness.

    Think of it subjectively as certainty and uncertainty sharing the same perceptive moment. Don't be autistic and think in terms of "do I know what will happen next or not".
    Think of it subjectively like "part of my brain is here, and part is over there, and it makes me have a sense of the moment where the two parts meet"

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      nobody is going to read your long winded self indulgent rant, i hope you enjoyed typing it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It sounds like you were just hoping someone would circlejerk your mysticism OR you don't understand what I'm saying and are intimidate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Part of this has to do with the universe's ability to "predict the future" which is mistakenly interpreted as simulation evidence. It's the opposite.

      The universe doesn't give a shit about time. Space and time are the same thing, and they're actually also the same thing as other fields and forces and the basis of all of it is how information is shared or not given the constraint of the speed of light.

      The reason the universe appears to predict the future is because the universe has some information which is visible and information which isn't. The speed of light governs this.
      The universe doesn't give a shit about time, so if an information horizon "clears" at some point in the future, the universe will know what needs to happen. However, there are many cases where information doesn't "clear" and the universe has to let things play out until information is visible to a situation.

      My theory assumes that the universe's "predictive" ability overlaps with determinism a bit and that includes COMPUTATIONAL determinism. So the universe can "see" the outcome of some of your thoughts, and it can't see other outcomes.

      This produces consciousness where the two pieces reconcile within the mind, which is an emergent computational problem between the two pieces.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its a field of energy, more concentrated in the skull, but extends out around the body and into the environment. When you silence the activity in your brain you can become sensitive to the vibrations of mental energy within the world and universe surrounding you, and tap into these other fields of perception. The brain makes the most concentrated self referential field, whereas the universal field is self referential but not contiguous with the network of 'self' you have within your mind. You can cross the boundary between these two and build a chemical/neural gateway between the atomic structures of the ground you stand upon and then you can extend the electrical circuitry of your mind out into the environment and connect them together into a feedback loop. That is when you stop being a brain in a body, and start being a mind which fully extends itself out into the entire field of perception you have at your disposal.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >When you silence the activity in your brain you can become sensitive to the vibrations of mental energy within the world and universe surrounding you, and tap into these other fields of perception.
      No you absolutely can't. If this was possible there's be heaps of evidence for it. All we have are a couple of gayfake CIA files and the testimony of thousands of drug addict religious grifters.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its simple. Stop thinking. Feel your awareness as a field which extends itself through space. Tune into the magnetic oscillations within your heart, and connect them with the schumann resonance of the earth.
        What 'heaps of evidence' do you suppose exist for a phenomena that exists entirely within the perception of the individual?
        There is no field of science which studies the capabilities of the mind to create a subjective experience, or how to direct the mind to create particular sorts of subjective experiences.
        Its a bit strange that such a thing doesn't exist, yet every person on the earth is conscious.
        Why do people follow the physical words in books, rather than tuning their mental intelligence into what the universe is sending them every moment? Why are your words more meaningful than the permutations of photons and the magnetic field of all light from every corner of the universe passing through my body at all times?
        Oh wait, there is a practice dedicated to uncovering the mind, its called yoga, and thousands of years old. Yogic texts have information about siddhis, which are basically mental feats of awareness. The basis for all siddhis is prana, which is a subtle vibrational energy which can be perceived by tuning your awareness into your respiration. Respiration is the process through which all your cells metabolize energy and use that energy to alter themselves in response to the environment.
        When you stop 'thinking', and simply focus on your awareness, you can sense this energy. It turns out that when you go deep within your nerves while your mind is silent, you can feel these subtle vibrations of energy within every area of your body, and these vibrations cause your mind to hallucinate waves of energy permeating your body, as if rather than sending molecular electrical signals, you you start feeling and seeing your nerves as a holographic waveguide which is responsive to your own thoughts, as well as the magnetic portion of the em field.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >entirely within the perception of the individual
          >schumann resonance of the earth.
          Two contradictory notions

          I don't perceive the schumann resonance of the earth.

          You can believe that the universe is sending you message but that doesn't mean it is.
          You can believe you're a girl if you're a boy, but you aren't.

          Radio waves are invisible but I can easily prove over and over again that they're real.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            When you look at my post, that isn't me sending you the words on your screen, but the universe showing them to you. What you read is blackened text on a lighter background. I read the words floating through my chemicals and through the structures of light passing to me from the earth and the sky.

            >When you stop 'thinking', and simply focus on your awareness, you can sense this energy.
            This is just low level schizophrenia. Your brain struggles to maintain the wall between perception, self-awareness, and its internal mental model of the universe.

            >This is just low level schizophrenia.
            No, I'm at max level schizofrenia. I'm the culmination of what the schizo genes suggest is possible for humans to perceive about the universe and the mind.
            >Your brain struggles to maintain the wall between perception, self-awareness, and its internal mental model of the universe.
            On the contrary, my brain intentionally lowers these barriers and I consciously venture forth into the actual final frontier of possibility and discovery. The space of all possible sentient perception is vastly larger than the space of human language mediated sentient perception.
            I see the way you use your mind, with words, with ideas about proven truths from the past, as a crippled way of perceiving nature. Your mind has been hobbled and you will keep wandering in circles through the same mazes of thought and words until you are old and gray.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Even though your brain is a washing machine set on max spin, the universe is still normal and the way I see it because I stick to evidence and don't do drugs.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Drugs are not necessary for doing things other than thinking in words with your mind.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The thought did cross my mind, but perhaps the message I sent is meant for someone else.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Two contradictory notions
            What happens when two oscillators are tuned to the frequency? What happens when What happens field created by one of the oscillators is visually comprehended by your mind, and is in a feedback loop with the field created by the earth?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Drugs are not necessary for doing things other than thinking in words with your mind.

            When you look at my post, that isn't me sending you the words on your screen, but the universe showing them to you. What you read is blackened text on a lighter background. I read the words floating through my chemicals and through the structures of light passing to me from the earth and the sky.
            [...]
            >This is just low level schizophrenia.
            No, I'm at max level schizofrenia. I'm the culmination of what the schizo genes suggest is possible for humans to perceive about the universe and the mind.
            >Your brain struggles to maintain the wall between perception, self-awareness, and its internal mental model of the universe.
            On the contrary, my brain intentionally lowers these barriers and I consciously venture forth into the actual final frontier of possibility and discovery. The space of all possible sentient perception is vastly larger than the space of human language mediated sentient perception.
            I see the way you use your mind, with words, with ideas about proven truths from the past, as a crippled way of perceiving nature. Your mind has been hobbled and you will keep wandering in circles through the same mazes of thought and words until you are old and gray.

            Its simple. Stop thinking. Feel your awareness as a field which extends itself through space. Tune into the magnetic oscillations within your heart, and connect them with the schumann resonance of the earth.
            What 'heaps of evidence' do you suppose exist for a phenomena that exists entirely within the perception of the individual?
            There is no field of science which studies the capabilities of the mind to create a subjective experience, or how to direct the mind to create particular sorts of subjective experiences.
            Its a bit strange that such a thing doesn't exist, yet every person on the earth is conscious.
            Why do people follow the physical words in books, rather than tuning their mental intelligence into what the universe is sending them every moment? Why are your words more meaningful than the permutations of photons and the magnetic field of all light from every corner of the universe passing through my body at all times?
            Oh wait, there is a practice dedicated to uncovering the mind, its called yoga, and thousands of years old. Yogic texts have information about siddhis, which are basically mental feats of awareness. The basis for all siddhis is prana, which is a subtle vibrational energy which can be perceived by tuning your awareness into your respiration. Respiration is the process through which all your cells metabolize energy and use that energy to alter themselves in response to the environment.
            When you stop 'thinking', and simply focus on your awareness, you can sense this energy. It turns out that when you go deep within your nerves while your mind is silent, you can feel these subtle vibrations of energy within every area of your body, and these vibrations cause your mind to hallucinate waves of energy permeating your body, as if rather than sending molecular electrical signals, you you start feeling and seeing your nerves as a holographic waveguide which is responsive to your own thoughts, as well as the magnetic portion of the em field.

            boards.IQfy/pseudosci

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Its called an experiment. I propose an experimental methodology to create psychic perception within your mind, but none of you scientists are willing to try any of it out.

            >When you silence the activity in your brain you can become sensitive to the vibrations of mental energy within the world and universe surrounding you, and tap into these other fields of perception.
            No you absolutely can't. If this was possible there's be heaps of evidence for it. All we have are a couple of gayfake CIA files and the testimony of thousands of drug addict religious grifters.

            Even if such evidence did exist, apparently nobody would ever attempt to replicate the experiments.

            >When you stop 'thinking', and simply focus on your awareness, you can sense this energy.
            This is just low level schizophrenia. Your brain struggles to maintain the wall between perception, self-awareness, and its internal mental model of the universe.

            If you think that stopping your thought and trying to use your massive brain as a sensor more acute than an eyeball could make you go schizo, then perhaps you weren't sane to begin with.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >When you stop 'thinking', and simply focus on your awareness, you can sense this energy.
          This is just low level schizophrenia. Your brain struggles to maintain the wall between perception, self-awareness, and its internal mental model of the universe.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In my opinion it's external because mind is an action.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >if you run a claude worldsim forward and then put claude in control after it collapses, he almost invariably reformulates it to be panpsychist / have consciousness as one of the fundamental forces
    >twitter.com/voooooogel/status/1768082565871870379

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