Is Secular Humanism the biggest cope ever? >Humans are special because... they just are OK!

Is Secular Humanism the biggest cope ever?

>Humans are special because... they just are OK!
>I know that homosexual sapiens are just an evolved species like all others but we're super duper special and have human rights n shieet
>No you can't just kill and rape for fun because......

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is giving special privileges your own species a cope at all? Chauvinism of this kind is perfectly natural and normal.
    The universalist "caretaker of all creation" position is much more abnormal in comparison.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Chauvinism of this kind is perfectly natural and normal
      When in history have people ever identified with humanity as a whole rather than their specific tribe, family, nation, etc? Speaking purely evolutionarily, it's more advantageous to completely vanquish the enemy tribe than to say "Noooooo you can't do that, they have human rights!!!!"

      >The universalist "caretaker of all creation" position is much more abnormal in comparison.
      Except how that's been the dominate view for a long time, and the more successful one

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >When in history have people ever identified with humanity as a whole rather than their specific tribe, family, nation, etc?
        Christian scholars starting from when Jesus was still in living memory? IIRC the scraps of the earliest days show that an initial point of contention was how to work with Gentiles, as it took a while for "Christians" to split from "israelites" from the whole "Jesus Christ is just the guy prophesized in like twelve verses" thing.

        >Speaking purely evolutionarily, it's more advantageous to completely vanquish the enemy tribe than to say "Noooooo you can't do that, they have human rights!!!!"
        It's also advantageous to be able to integrate the enemy tribe's population into yours, and as civilization has consistently grown in scale over time the strength of enlarging the in-group this way has only increased. It's only in the last 200 years or so that Christian universalism overextended, and that's mostly due to the inertia of the cultural importance of "being Christian" finishing its failure under the discrediting of schismatic behavior and religiously-non-specific scientific thinking becoming the drivers of society.

        It's just another religion, specifically a neopagan religion

        None of the statements you mentioned have any kind of rational proof (from their perspective). Therefore, they are believed as articles of faith

        As I understand it, it's in the awkward space of early Buddhism, where it's a philosophy regarding ethical premises making relatively few metaphysical claims. Unlike Buddhism, it doesn't have any clear path to starting to make those metaphysical claims. The line between a school of ethical philosophy and a religion is a very poorly defined one, but

        ...Also I doubt classifying it as "neopagan" is accurate when on a great many matters it's more popular than "proper" Christian ethics.

        >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his family
        >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his tribe
        >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his polis
        >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his country
        >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his political bloc
        >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his planet
        >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his solar system
        >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his stellar neighborhood
        >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his...

        >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his political bloc
        This is what has always been the breakpoint. The trick is that memetic evolution constantly pushes for ever-larger political blocks. Things have so far always settled out into forging a new consensus, resolving the friction for a new expansion cycle.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Christian scholars starting from when Jesus was still in living memory?
          As you say this is only limited to celibate Christian scholars isolated in their monasteries. No group has ever widely accepted this view and lived

          >It's also advantageous to be able to integrate the enemy tribe's population into yours
          No it's not because they don't share your genetics. The only way to integrate genetically is through rape, which happened a lot in history

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >rape
            Let me guess, Christian, American, male, age 19-24?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Am I wrong? There's been countless times in history where the men fight and the victor rapes the enemy's women

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >As you say this is only limited to celibate Christian scholars isolated in their monasteries.
            They were the shot-callers that got Christianity spreading.

            >No group has ever widely accepted this view and lived
            There was a hell of a tell of it during the Crusades.

            >No it's not because they don't share your genetics.
            Men have more to them than their bloodline.

            >The only way to integrate genetically is through rape, which happened a lot in history
            Voluntary intermarriage is a thing.

            Do you seriously think a majority of first-generation Mestizos were rape-babies? That every single settlement converted had a huge chunk of the population cut down or shot? Spanish conquest in the Americas is the single most spectacular disproof of your bullshit I can think of, because the resources turned Spain into a borderline hyperpower for multiple generations and were only extractable because the Christian ethics made it permissible to culturally co-opt the existing power structures for laborers without transporting whole ass armies.

            Genetic selection occurs on far too long a timescale to be particularly impactful to civilization, it's memetic selection that is the far more important driver. People don't care THAT much about their child sharing a phenotype and the genotype is mostly invisible.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think you've ever read a single book about humanism or secular humanism. Also why do Christians think about baby rape all the time? When Christians are whining about atheist morality or ethics baby murder and rape are the first things they bring up 100% of the time.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >why do Christians think about baby rape all the time
      Who mentioned anything about baby rape?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Christcuckies claim morals to be a privliledge of religion and there is absolutely, totally no way that morals can exist without religion. Turns out morals are something that behavioral science/biology has proved long ago to be a natural behavior of all higher primates and secular Humanism is the moral philosophy to go with it. Naturally that doesn't go to well with the christcuckie moral superiority complex and hence all the chimpouts here.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh wow someone with above a 105 IQ on IQfy

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          got banned on IQfy, used to come here for the Burgundy shitposting, but this board is in a terrible state.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            We really need /rel/ as a cancer containment board

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            can we call it /if/ for imaginary friends?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like it would lead to endless asspain, so sure.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I just made this board so much better. 40 shitty threads less.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you take a step back and compare species, it’s not hard to conclude humans are at least the most impressive mammals at least by magnitudes.
    Humanists and myself agree that humans are special and deserve extra concern

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Humans think humans are impressive therefore humans are special
      Wow great point

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can just look at the objective biomass and tools and machines.
        Hell if that doesn’t satisfy you I just like people way way more than cows and chickens and rats

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just another religion, specifically a neopagan religion

    None of the statements you mentioned have any kind of rational proof (from their perspective). Therefore, they are believed as articles of faith

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh wow a IQfy poster is furious about humanism and has urges to rape and kill wildly. You’re one in a million anon, so unique and interesting.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If hyper intelligent monkeys built a society of millions or billions it’s 100% reasonable to expect them to consider themselves as on team monkey.
    It’s actually baffling that you can’t wrap your head around this

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If hyper intelligent monkeys built a society of millions or billions it’s 100% reasonable to expect them to consider themselves as on team monkey.
      That's completely arbitrary. Why is it "team monkey" and not "team my monkey family" or "team my monkey nation" or "team all animals"

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I’m sure the dumber ones would be that shortsighted.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          yet those "dumber" ones would win out because it's more evolutionarily advantageous

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            That’s weird man because humanism is easily more popular than it ever has been

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >some people for a short amount of time have adopted a bad group strategy. Checkmate
            Groups that prioritize their own will always win out to groups who equally prioritize all other groups because "we're all the same species maaaaaan". In practice people don't identify with the species but with people who are genetically similar.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his family
            >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his tribe
            >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his polis
            >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his country
            >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his political bloc
            >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his planet
            >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his solar system
            >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his stellar neighborhood
            >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his...

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Call me racist, but I am particular to carbon based life forms from this solar system.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're just bitter because you have no cute boron-based gf.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can stop it at
            >man will never succeed by prioritizing a larger group than his country

            Most country's populations are genetic kinsmen so it makes sense to be aligned with your country. Past that it starts to get too genetically diverse

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Based on? Your feefs.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Based on what strategy is most advantageous for a group in terms of evolutionary success

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            And you think this is the most advantageous one based on feefs.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Wait, you're claiming that modern countries and modern definition of people follow genetics and only because of those genetics morals can even exist?
            That's ridiculously wrong, those morals developed hundred thousands of years before countries even existed. Why don't you read a good book on behavioral science and evolutionary psychology before you try to rationalize your racism with evolution.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Wait, you're claiming that modern countries and modern definition of people follow genetics
            Yes

            >and only because of those genetics morals can even exist?
            No

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it’s another christgays don’t understand basic morality thread

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      They’re truly sniveling morons

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mass reply
    >age old sojak meme
    i don't even have to guess what hole you crawled out.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >has miraculous ability for consciousness
    >enables you to reason, recognize patterns, formulate theories, and affect dreams into reality
    >use this ability to “reason” that it’s actually meaningless
    Just have a nice day if you hate yourself, don’t project it into us OP. Your lack of self respect is alarming

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do you make the leap from consciousness and reason to human rights?

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