Is the future of humanity inevitably become brains in vats with sensory input? >virtual unlimited utopia

Is the future of humanity inevitably become brains in vats with sensory input?
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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    what happens when the janitor starts fricking the brains

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, because as it turns out, our consciousness might not actually be entirely within our brains, but emergent from our entire nervuous system. People who have even gotten organ transplants note changes in their personality and sometime these actually reflect their donors, such as food preferences for example. I don't think a brain in a jar would actually feel consciousness, because consciousness is an emergent phenomenon created by our brain constantly having to process billions of inputs a second from every nerve and sensory organ in our body. Without a body, what is there for a brain to even do? One could argue that its possible to fake these inputs, but I theorize that a brain also cannot just be given nothing but numb, pleasurable thoughts either.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >our consciousness might not actually be entirely within our brains, but emergent from our entire nervuous system.
      This is just false

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >People who have even gotten organ transplants note changes in their personality and sometime these actually reflect their donors, such as food preferences for example
        This is fricking bullshit. The reason food preferences change isn't because the last owner of your lung liked steak, it's because the lung is less efficient than it's supposed to be and thus requires more iron, the lung in turn sends signals to the brain that more iron is needed for the organ to function properly, hence you crave iron rich foods.
        It's no different than wanting water when you're thirsty.

        In a scenario where you're a brain in a jar you would presumably be fed adequate nutrients through the water so you wouldn't have need or desire for different nutrients.

        Learn, you morons
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6364520/
        >Consciousness is a global activity of the nervous system. Its physiological and pathological mechanisms have been studied in relation to the natural sleep-wake cycle and various forms of normal or morbid unconsciousness, mainly in neurophysiology and clinical neurology. Neuropsychology has been more interested in specific higher brain functions, such as perception and memory and their disorders, rather than in consciousness per se. However, neuropsychology has been at the forefront in the identification of conscious and unconscious components in the processing of sensory and mnestic information. The present review describes some historical steps in the formulation of consciousness as a global brain function with arousal and content as principal ingredients, respectively, instantiated in the subcortex and the neocortex. It then reports a few fresh developments in neuropsychology and cognitive neuroscience which emphasize the importance of the hippocampus for thinking and dreaming. Non-neocortical structures may contribute to the contents of consciousness more than previously believed.

        People much smarter than you are studying this phenomenon.There is absolutely 0 reasons why this shouldn't be the case so I don't even understand why you're getting defensive. The brain and the nervous system are functionally the same and form part of the same exact same network of neurons. Certain key brain receptors are found everywere in the body. You are a giant walking brain

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          How do you explain paralyzed people being conscious?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Quadriplegics are p-zombies, obviously.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Paralyzed people still have eyes, and a nose, and ears, and a mouth, and can generally still eat and shit you disingenuous moron.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            So is fine as long as you have something besides the brain? How come that doesn't work when removing parts of the actual brain moron?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody is saying you don't need a brain to process those inputs. But you still need inpiuts for your brain to process. They both are apart of the same whole.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >But you still need inpiuts for your brain to process.
            This has nothing to do with what you were saying. You could simulate the imputs with a computer, but again, irrelevant

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You could simulate the inputs with a computer
            no you can't moron, no one has ever done that before, you're just assuming

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Reductionist moronism like reminds me of the needle dancing question lmao

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Okay the body and mind aren't separate but dependent on each other. Still it isn't impossible to imagine a mind existing seperate from a body though maybe you'd be different. It is the brain that does all the thinking after all. You can lose a kidney or a couple limbs.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >People who have even gotten organ transplants note changes in their personality and sometime these actually reflect their donors, such as food preferences for example
      This is fricking bullshit. The reason food preferences change isn't because the last owner of your lung liked steak, it's because the lung is less efficient than it's supposed to be and thus requires more iron, the lung in turn sends signals to the brain that more iron is needed for the organ to function properly, hence you crave iron rich foods.
      It's no different than wanting water when you're thirsty.

      In a scenario where you're a brain in a jar you would presumably be fed adequate nutrients through the water so you wouldn't have need or desire for different nutrients.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >This is fricking bullshit
        You refuse to believe it because it's scary, but it's true nonetheless.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      The entire point of the brain in a jar is that it gets inputs from the computer that it's hooked up to. If such a thing is even possible, the brain could receive inputs simulating the life of a paleolithic hunter-gatherer, get eaten by a cave bear and move on to smuggling spice from Arrakis.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Humanity will transform itself into a posthuman digital species. This will happen through gradual replacement of natural brain cells with nanomachines, this process will be based on Neurogenesis and Neuroregeneration. After achieving such full cybernetic state, the brain will be linked to a computer to be able to grow virtual neurons until the analog part of one's brain is redundant to maintain the mind and thus digital existence is achieved.
    From that point posthumanity can live for longer than 100 trillion years and may be even claim eternity for itself.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know it's a troll board.... But sometimes I wonder if people are actually THIS moronic.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can believe it, and I hate it. Humanity will yet abolish itself, not by accident but intentionally and willingly.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Follow the golden path.

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