Is the jump from 1GB to 10GB ethernet worth it for my home network? Is the speed upgrade really noticeable?

Is the jump from 1GB to 10GB ethernet worth it for my home network? Is the speed upgrade really noticeable?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you have to ask, then you don't need it.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what do you do on your LAN?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      beat my dick to anime porn

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        10gb home networks(for now) aren't for internet. They're for shit like security camera and NAS
        Did you think you're internet is going to get magically faster than what your ISP will provide you if you get a faster network?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >security cameras
          How many security cameras do you have?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >no information about what you running your home network, how many users are on it
    how the frick would we know

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >RJ45

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >*melts the Cat5e in you're walls*

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        subpar barely cat5 cables and those are a great recipe for disaster

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, large pictures (and videos) of your mother

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is that actually possible?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        where do you buy your cat cable

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Is that actually possible?

        10GBASE-T power is all in the FEC recovery logic in the receivers.
        You can't burn down your house from inside the walls, you just might fry some SFP+ xcvrs and/or the switch itself if it isn't actively ventilated.
        ~3W-5W per port.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I use a PCIe card for direct copper 10GBase-T. The temperature sensor shows 70°C all the time.
          Optical doesn't have this problem.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah Base-T tends to get noticeably hotter than Base-X usually does. Unironically the sole reason I replace the few 10G BT ones I had with SFP+ models. Thank god for hotswapable modules.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >direct copper 10GBase-T
            do you mean no SFP+, just RJ45 10GBT-only interface?
            Or you mean an RJ45 10GBT xcvr?
            DAC in 10GbE usually means twinax 10GBASE-CR/10GSFP+Cu, so I'm confused what you mean.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            In didn't mean DAC, just RJ45 without SFP+.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            well at least with a native 10GBASE-T card, the controller is probably equipped with an adequately large heatsink and not just some SFP+ cage with basically no fins on it.

            For anybody doing home 10GbE, I'd recommend trying to get DAC and AOC SFP+ wherever possible. Chad Mikrotik CRS305 and cheapo X520-DA1 mean no noisy switches or high airflow end machine requirements.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know why anyone with SFP+ would use copper, with the exception of DAC.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well people who didn't want to completely avoid 10GBT wouldn't buy and SFP+ equipment in the first place lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I use RJ45 cuz they dont make an RJ46

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are you constantly transferring large files around?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    based on zero information I'll say YES

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hey, me too!

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    fast ethernet is good enough

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody needs more than thicknet
      https://www.mattmillman.com/projects/10base5/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Token ring should be enough for everyone

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody needs more than thicknet
      https://www.mattmillman.com/projects/10base5/

      Token ring should be enough for everyone

      IPoAC should be fine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        hi jeff

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how can you not notice 10x? try getting hit by a 10 mph car then jumping in front of a 100mph. notice a difference?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say traveling in the said car makes more sense as an analogy. Faster car gets you places faster but whether or not you get to take advantage of that speed depends entirely on the places and the distance to those places. I think you would know if you would.
      So fpbp

      If you have to ask, then you don't need it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >my car can hit 2000 miles per hour! see you in the dust
      >speed limit: 15

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is the jump from 1GB to 10GB ethernet worth it for my home network? Is the speed upgrade really noticeable?
    Subjective question. Depends on your particular needs. If you are asking then you probably don't need it, nor the hassle of different vendors not yet having worked out negotiation bugs as the "standards" are vague. Always have been vague. Always will be vague. It usually takes about a decade to work out the serious bugs on consumer equipment and two decades to work out the little headache bugs on consumer equipment. Unless you are using enterprise supported datacenter equipment that has all been certified to work with all of your network stack then it may be worth staying on 1GB if you do not need 10.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sure, but you're going to be spending a decent chunk of change for the privilege. Beyond that, do all your devices support 10Gbe already?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    2.5 is a good place to be. 5 still isn’t really needed unless you get those kinds of internet speeds or you’re dropping large files into your NAS daily.
    Even cheap monos now come with 2.5 gbe built in.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      2.5gbe is more expensive than 40gbe and still slow as shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The only places that use 10/40gbe are hospitals and businesses. 2.5 is now on routers and motherboards that you can actually buy and it’s getting common.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >2.5gbe is more expensive than 40gbe
        you can get 2.5gbe switches for under $50, pcie adapters for 2.5g are $20 or less.
        what the frick are you smoking moron?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >you can get 2.5gbe switches for under $50

          Only no-name chinese brands, but that's probably not any different than what you'd get in a dlink or netgear switch.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            don't care if it's russian, israeli, north korean, chinese etc. it does 2.5gbe all the same.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >EEE throttles you to 100mbe instead of 2.5gbe
            nothing personell kid

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            my 2.5g chinese switch with 2 ports for 10gb hasn't underdelivered yet.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's going to depend on how much data you're sending across your network.
    If you send a lot of big files or your Internet connection is above 1Gbit then you'll notice the difference.
    If you rarely send large files over the network and your Internet speeds aren't that fast then you won't notice apart from those rare times you send the files, they'll be done quicker.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    are 10GbE switches cheap yet?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probs not, but 100GbE can be more affordable than one might think.
      https://www.servethehome.com/mikrotik-crs504-4xq-in-review-momentus-4x-100gbe-and-25gbe-desktop-switch-marvell/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      depends what you mean by 10gbe switches

      you can get a switch with two 10gbit sfp+ ports for as cheap as $119

      but if you're looking for mostly-10gbit then you're looking at 8 sfp+/1 rj45 for $269. and 10gbit rj45 is even more expensive

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I get 7mbs in the united states for $120/mo through AT&T.
    frick you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      With that price and speed you must be rural, so at least you have a nice big piece of land to enjoy. Better than the people living in cramped apartments with fast internet. Besides, you can still have a fast LAN which I believe is what this is about.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >fast LAN is what it's about.
        You're right, am moron.
        That said, anything I do on my network is hobbled in one way or another by the shitty Arris AT&T spyware router.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >shitty Arris AT&T spyware router
          Why not separate your network with pf/opnsense if it bothers you?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Doesn't it have a bridge mode or something? I just connected the router they gave me to my own and separated it a little that way only stuff going to the WAN goes to the hardware they provide.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >shitty Arris AT&T spyware router

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I have shit internet AND I dont have a local home network with a file server
            what a moron

            depends what you do on your home network. I have a NAS set up to use external drives using iSCSI, using 4x4tb drives in z1 array. It's like having 10tb of sata SSDs space, but at a quarter of a price.

            >7mbs
            serious question, with connections so shit, isnt there any way of getting some sort of vpn, or proxy in which all what you get is compressed?
            its been forever but didnt opera mobile do that back then?

            If I did want to set up the shitty ATT router for passthrough, what router would you get that is fully customizable and has a b***hing wifi radio?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There are no 10gig routers which are affordable and fast enough to actually route at 10gig speeds. Some mikrotik models come close but they are SFP+ only, you have to deal with their insane admin panel, and they cost as much as a videocard. Asus I think has some gaymer temple of Nod looking routers that have one or two single 10gig rj45 and supports every letter wifi (probably for about 2 meters max) but they also cost as much as videocards.

            best bet for 2.5gig routing is one of those mini celeron PCs with a separate I225-V controller for each 2.5gig rj45 port, but even those aren't cheap, and then there is the firmware. I think you can put pfsense on them?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I'd like a sandwich and a coffee please
            >That'll be one third of a videocard please

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There are no 10gig routers which are affordable and fast enough to actually route at 10gig speeds

            There are plenty of switches that have an SFP slot for a 10 gb optical connection, to feed multiple 2.5G ports, this combination of 10 gb for a nas with 2.5G for client ports is going to be plenty for the foreseeable future. It's a steady 280 MB/s transfer rate.

            Also, 2.5G seems to be more reliable in general in terms of maintaining transfer rates. Probably because it is using a different signaling scheme compared to 1 GB and slower ethernet...so even if you are not measuring peak transfer rates there are still benefits to having a quality 2.5G connection to your switch.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > buy Dell Optiplex SFF from 10 years ago for $50
            > buy Intel X540 dual 10GBase-T NIC for $40, or X520 dual 10G SFP+ NIC (even better) for $15
            > install OpnSense
            there’s your sub-$100 10 gigabit router, no microdick needed. mine runs at around 5-10% CPU utilization with an i5 4570 when routing 10G symmetric WAN with NAT and some basic port forwarding. microwiener has been selling their overpriced hardware with their pathetic dual-core in-order ARM CPUs for years now. luckily there are alternatives!
            > but muh power consumption
            any desktop from 2014-2015 or newer will do a pretty good job of entering low power states when running at low utilization

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I get 7mbs in the united states
      average
      >for $120/mo through AT&T.
      what
      they don't even offer speeds below 20/4 here ($10/month) anymore though villages will get 10/2 in some cases
      and then some villages can get 1000/500 ($30/month)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        well the downside is you are born a gypsy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The USA has a free market, which means most people only have a single ISP available to them.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The USA has a free market, which means most people only have a single ISP available to them.
          nah we're very anti-monopoly here, and in terms of coverage the entire world has Starlink.
          that anon lives in a swamp in the middle of nowhere, population 700. that's why his internet is shit. it' snot worth it for att to constantly run new lines, they'll roll out fiber after they hit everywhere else in their coverage zones.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You may as well get Starlink at that point.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >7mbs
      serious question, with connections so shit, isnt there any way of getting some sort of vpn, or proxy in which all what you get is compressed?
      its been forever but didnt opera mobile do that back then?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I have shit internet AND I dont have a local home network with a file server
      what a moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        who said that?
        You'd cum your pants if you saw my linux distro collection on Jellyfin

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My ISP offered me a free upgrade from 1GB to 2GB and while the new internet is great and worth the change was a hassle because I had cat5 cables and 1 gig equipment all over the house. Had to just go with mesh shit and plug only my PC into the router itself. Make sure your devices can handle it or be prepared to drop a load on routers switches cables network cards etc.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can do mGig over cat5, just not 100m

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well then I ran another cable through the attic for nothing, oh well

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Meh, spare cable or something that might support 25G in the future

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            In the future we'll all be DEAD, anon.
            You don't know what the frick you're talking about, man!
            I've had it with your bullshit, buddy boy. You and me. Let's go, put em up.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can get switches with 800gbs ports
    They are expensive

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    10gbit is really the minimum where it'd be worth replacing existing stuff, and only then if you actually have a NAS or somesuch where ~120MB/s can be limiting. Whatever you do, skip 2.5/5gbe networking - it is a scam to try and get people to replace their perfectly functional 1gbit switches, routers, and modems and if you actually need >1gbit you probably need a lot more. But if I were you I'd consider not replacing your existing stuff and just running a separate high-speed network that isn't connected to the internet.

    If you're primarily concerned with speeding up access between one desktop and one NAS, and your other devices are good with 1gbe, then it's probably better to get some old 40gbe (or 100gbe) cards off ebay and just directly connect the two machines. Skip buying switches unless you actually need them - even if you have three machines, going for three dual-port cards is probably cheaper if they're close together. You don't need to bother with encryption or access control if those ports can't reach the internet.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >is the jump from 125MB/s to 1.25GB/s worth it?
    Iunno man do you have large drive sizes and benefit from such inter transfer speeds? 10Gb was worth it a long time ago for RAID'd HDD services/backups. People want 100 now and it's going to be relevant when 4xPCIe6 devices are common.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    depends what you do on your home network. I have a NAS set up to use external drives using iSCSI, using 4x4tb drives in z1 array. It's like having 10tb of sata SSDs space, but at a quarter of a price.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    inb4 some european morons say
    >hurr I think you mean 10GiB ethernet durr
    >its not 10 GIG ethernet its 10 GIB !
    stupid c**ts

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      dumb american c**t, these are bits, not bytes

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do any of your PCs on your network even support 10G?
    1G is still pretty much standard for consumer hardware.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Do any of your PCs on your network even support 10G?
      We're obviously talking about a network-wide upgrade. I wouldn't upgrade if only one device supported 10G, that's be nuts.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still on 100mbit, my internet connection is faster than my home network.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just step up to 2.5Gbit or get a switch with SFP ports and get 2x10Gbit, 1x5Gbit and the rest at 2.5 or 1Gbit SFPs. Don't overthink it.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fiber optics are superior to copper starting at anything above 1 GbE.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd say it was worth it since I now have an SFF PC and I put my hard drives in a NAS. On top of that, I have an 8 Gbit/s internet subscription, so it only made sense to upgrade

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If your internet is fast enough or you stream/transfer large amounts of data locally? Yes.
    If your internet is less than 1gbps? Then no.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I recently upgraded all of my stuff to 10gbe with rj45.
    Put cat6a in the walls and bought a 10gbe switch and network cards.
    I just did it because it is cool, and I have 4 gbit Internet so I get some use over just having 1 or 2.5 gig.
    But it is not that different from just having everything 1gig, you should only do it if you have a reason, or just for fun.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's worth it if you have a modern NAS.
    1gig ethernet doesn't max out modern HDDs and if you have an SSD cache on it the performance difference is more significant.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the human eye can't see beyond 60Mbps

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    About to set up a few switches and cables around the house over the next few weeks. 1 Gigabit and Cat 5e only. Don't see how or why I'd ever need anything more than that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can do 5Gbps on your 5e, and probably 10G depending on the cards and switches involved though it would be out of spec.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is the speed upgrade really noticeable?
    It's about 10 times faster, give or take a few homiebits.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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