Is there an explanation to why vast majority of fantasy is set/based on European middle ages?

Is there an explanation to why vast majority of fantasy is set/based on European middle ages? What makes that era more attractive to fantasy storys than having
Then set in say a placed based of the Hellenistic era or pike and shot Europe?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    The little boy rape was kept out of sight instead like churches and castle dungeons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This isn't a flex

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not my problem if you see it as one

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Romantic movement in Europe circa 1800-1900 was obsessed with medieval era chivalric tales and such.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      It's not medieval it's neo-medieval/ romantic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Romantic art movement often depicted the Classical Period

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically a combination of tolkien, who basically invented the high fantasy genre, and then D&d which took the ball tolkien kicked into the field and ran with it. Almost all fantasy media has roots you can trace back to one or both of those two influences.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the idea of a world with decentralization and many magnates and strong independent communities is an easy setting to write around and allows for more freedom and ideas to go on from, also the Arthurian legacy and Epic poetry which we actually inherited is set obviously in these periods and it's a modern follow on.
    A world that was more legally concrete and centralized doesn't appeal as much because being 'powerful' will always be around the King or whatever central authority of the region is. Of course, the middle ages were far more centralized and restricted than many fantasy world would suggest. If you actually had to deal with the government in the middle ages you'd be sucking as much bureaucratic dick as you would today and jumping though hoops to get shit to work. Tariffs, forced dues and many different forms, lack of freedom were all very real in the middle ages. It's a lot easier to ignore that though because much like modern law, medieval law and administration are mostly arcane to people who didn't specifically study in it, it's also really boring if you don't like it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the idea of a world with decentralization and many magnates and strong independent communities is an easy setting to write around and allows for more freedom and ideas to go on from
      The Classical Period also had that aside from Rome at its height, and even then outside the Roman Empire we have the Celts and Germans and Huns and Iranians

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why is cyberpunk so often set in japanese megacities
    because that's what the genre is, because that's how it started, and that is what makes the genre

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >because that's what the genre is, because that's how it started, and that is what makes the genre
      This. It's baby duck syndrome all the way down.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because much of what we know about the middle ages on a deeper level has been lost time time, what little we do know is surface level like Castles, Jesters, Kings, Knights.etc so its a time that lends itself well to aesthetics and creatively filling in the blanks

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fantasy genre was invented by an anglo linguist (Tolkien), who idealized a quintaessential IE world. Ancient World was too EEF for Tolkien, but there are lot of living traditions of Middle Ages, so he considered Middle Ages as a pipe of a lost world.

    Other people simply copied their tropos adding different things.

    It would be really interesting if writers were simply interested in things such Antropology, Linguistics, Genetics or Myths. If so, they could create worlds inspired in other kind of worlds, instead of fill a Tolkien-based lore with African knights and things like that.

    Fantasy is only interesting as a crystalization of a deeper unconscious. I would love to see EEF fantasy too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fantasy setting with real bronze age SOVL would be fun
      actual -bronze age soul- on the cultural and mentality level, not just medieval fantasy but with hellenic aesthetics

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, I imagine a kind of fantasy which takes place in a "sea world" land, full of little islands, like a sky made of water. With labyrinths and temples, and more horizontal societies (more Minoan than Mycenian).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It should also be noted that Mr. Tolkien was also a linguist and apparently the main purpose of the Middle-Earth books was to worldbuild with Sindarin and Quenya (Noldorin) the latter of which he actually invented in 1925, about 12 years before writing the Hobbit.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Then set in say a placed based of the Hellenistic era
    I've played some games where we were all demigods or heroes. They're fun, but people like having full plate and shit. They also inevitably involve Roman-esque civilizations and no one wants to work for the big guy when they're playing the hero
    >pike and shot Europe?
    Why the frick would a lone hero character want to be standing in a fricking pike block, sniping at dudes in other pike blocks?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Avatar's Element Kingdoms based on different asiatic cultures > Stale not-Tolkien wannabe mythologies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Americans make a better anime than Japan and a better depiction of Chinese fantasy than China
      how did they do it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They didn't, Avatar is a slightly above average shonen series if it was weighted against Japan's full output. It's still good but it's not even close to besting the highest heights that Japan produced, it only really bests most of the mediocre shonen shlock that the North American market is familiar with. That being said it does kind of blow the frick out of modern Chinese portrayals of Chinese fantasy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Actually I'm gonna revise the second part of my second sentence, it beats out a lock of mediocre shlock that Japan produces. Any given season of anime is like 95% garbage and even just "OK" anime series are better than that, Avatar is definitely in that 5% ranking if it were to be treated in the same category. It's just that there's still better stuff Japan's produced even if most of what they produce is fricking shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Avatar sucks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Avatar is the poor's man's anime.
      You have the most trash taste, if you actually like that shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Avatar is only the best for people that have seen like two shounen series like Naruto and MHA and some basic childhood shit like Pokemon, Dragon Ball, and Sailor Moon. You don't even have to go deep into other shounen to find series that mog it, Hunter x Hunter and Fullmetal Alchemist immediately come to mind.

        All mogged by Monster lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Avatar is only the best for people that have seen like two shounen series like Naruto and MHA and some basic childhood shit like Pokemon, Dragon Ball, and Sailor Moon. You don't even have to go deep into other shounen to find series that mog it, Hunter x Hunter and Fullmetal Alchemist immediately come to mind.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only good Japanimation is LotGH

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You don't even have to go deep into other shounen to find series that mog it, Hunter x Hunter
        Even most weebs find HxH boring and too long. Meanwhile, you can show Avatar to a functioning adult (like my dad) and theyll enjoy it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Source?
          "Weebs" think hxh 2011 is a masterpiece especially its final arc.
          So they dont find it "boring and too long" you just made that up, you moron.
          Also avatar, still sucks, and you and your father, have Peak shit taste.
          So get a better taste, idiot.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I personally liked HxH, but since I have peak shit taste that must mean that its worse than I thought

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's far less romantic than this. It's largely due to Dungeon & Dragons and some earlier 20th century authors (who were influenced by 19th century and romantic larping).
    In Japan it's basically influence of Western RPG like Ultima on early JRPG like Dragon Quest.
    Then it's just people copying this setting again and again.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the guy who invented it was a Catholic Anglo?
    >b-but faires n shiet predate Tolkien!
    He was the one who created composite characters and tropes associated with high fantasy medieval settings. The stories and figures recorded by the Brothers Grimm were entirely different when you actually read original folktales they came across in Europe.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    japanese and korean cucks seek to escape from reality and that's why they do medieval fantasy shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      series on the right is ungodly autism garbage

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isekai is 1000 times better than your autistic ww1 little girl anime.
      Cope.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      series on the right is ungodly autism garbage

      Isekai is 1000 times better than your autistic ww1 little girl anime.
      Cope.

      Reverend Insanity mogs all of that slop.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      heh, you are like little kiddo

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Japanese isekai is a 1000 times better than the St*lin Russian shit propaganda piece you shown.
        Actual Slav Trash.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >this is is your brain on soi sauce

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "Onions?"
            More like chad isekai enjoyer.
            This isekai hate created 10 years ago is pathetic, your isekai haters, are in fact more pathetic than actual isekai watchers, since you all always go:
            "muh generic" "muh loser mc" "muh goddess" "muh trash writing" "muh unoriginal plot" "muh boring".
            You are pathetic people unable to even understand what people like in isekai and so egocentrical because of that, im tired of all of you, i don't even give a frick about your opinion, if you are going to "hate" isekai, then get some new fricking points idiot, im tired of hearing the same stupid moronic points, every time, someone brings isekai.
            So shut up. Idiot.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nip isekai is literately a lowest of lowest slops, media for losers to entertain them
            one can enjoy them knowing that they are low quality trash but only real loser take them seriously and defend them like its the best thing ever
            there are some good in it but with your attitude I bet you can only consume most trashy wish fulfilment one
            now go read your slop and frick off you loser

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Same to you, you pathetic scum.
            You trash an entire genre just because of some moronic pre conceptions that you have, and you are so egocentric that you don't even want to admit that.
            You are the real loser, idiot.
            Yes, i like isekai, so what????
            Are you going to cry to me, because of that.
            Are you going to call me a loser because of that.
            Its what you isekai haters always do.
            So shut up you idiot, go frick yourself. moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lmao
            what a loser

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Frick you, you isekai hater.
            I feel bad that you can't enjoy some pretty good isekai stories, because of your moronic egocentrical idiotic mind.
            So shut up you moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't hate iseaki tho
            its mostly garbage tho as everything that come from modern nipland today
            I just don't get losers who get so invested in them to get enraged by somebody not liking it
            are you like 12 or something? or manchild who never grown up?
            anyway, you are fricking loser

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Skirts. A manly man, doing manly man things in a skirt is he gay. But totally hetero if he's wearing pants

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Castles are kino as frick.
    Armors are kino as frick.
    Incest is kino as frick.
    The knight companies were kino as frick.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the Middle Ages is more interesting than the Hellenistic era or Pike and Shot Europe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More interesting acording to who?
      I personally dont like the, 567 generic castle, with the analogy of a Christian religion, and the fricking generic ass knights battling each other in moronic bs, as: "This border full of animal garbage and actual shit, is mine and if you don't give it to me, we are going to war". and its just sword shit.
      The Hellenistic era or Pike and Shot Europe is more interesting you have guns, or the phalanxes.
      So stop you moronic "Medieshit" idiot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Clearly more interesting to the great majority of people. The fact that you are a contrarian and hold a vendetta against parts of the Middle Ages does not disprove anything.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No it's not, Rome is much more popular as a historical subject. But the Middle Ages have more romantic appeal.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shut up, i actually dont care.
          I find the Medishit ages completely overrated in fiction.
          And popularity dosen't mean anything, considering the majority are always moronic.
          So shut up, enjoy your Shit knights battling each other's over literal shit, idiot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I personally dont like the, 567 generic castle
        Then you have no soul, like redheads and human rights don't apply to you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok idiot.
          Enjoy your literal unpainted rock, soulless building, that was constructed for defense and not for aesthetics. (i don't get then, why you find a literal defense shit building beautifull, but ok)
          So shut up,go read your "medieshit" and go enjoy your Shit knights battling each other's over literal shit, idiot.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you, I know I will. Have fun enjoying... whatever it is that you find so interesting, like postmodern sculpture or conceptual art.

            I am sure I would be into that too if only I wasn't a caveman.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "caveman"
            Lol, the mediaval ages, were the worst aesthetics of the world, i admit it, i wouldn't hate it so much if it wasn't Everywhere in every fiction.
            I still find it soulless generic castles, and find you and actual moron, for trying to defend that generic shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Don't know about medieval fashion
            >Don't know about medieval cuisine
            >Don't know about medieval paining and tapestry
            >Don't know about the medieval israeliteelry
            >Think military structure are the only product of a 1000 year period
            >Act like a teacher anyway
            On /b/ I would understand, but here?

            European Fantasy is inspired by Tolkien, which was inspired by Christianity.

            >Actually, elves dwarves and magic come from the Christian lore.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/UqQrstG.jpg

            Good thing nobody gives a frick what you think

            We have had fantasy set in analogs of Egypt, Italy, Russia, China, Japan, Africa, Arabia, and Mesoamerica. Guess what? Nobody cared. Beyond the novelty response, they didn't go anywhere. After generations of fantasy literature, games, and movies, everyone flocked to the same 20 square feet dug out of Tolkeins backyard. You know why?

            The aesthetics rock. The weapons and tactics rock. The stories rock. The vibe rocks. The variety of tones and characters rock. They blow every special snowflake setting out of the water because it offers simplicity that can be managed and expanded upon without excessive explanation. It offers visceral thrills and simple joys that resonate across cultures and time. You can like what you like you're moronic if you can't see or appreciate the appeal.

            Frick off, medievalists shits.
            Your entire era was the dark age of Europe's entire history, your period is literally called the "middle of something" "Medie-val" so it doesn't even have a original name. Lol.
            So shut up, go frick yourselfs, go enjoy your Shit knights battling each other's over literal shit, morons.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he's still enraged over

            Because the Middle Ages is more interesting than the Hellenistic era or Pike and Shot Europe


            I get it. I'm not a fan of isekai-shit and elves being romanticist treehuggers either, but holy shit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Your entire era was the dark age of Europe's entire history
            That's true but speaking as an experienced DM, that's why people like pseudo dark age settings. A lack of centralized governments, with towns and villages and cities being tiny outcroppings of civilization amidst a largely savage wilderness is very conducive to adventure.

            Also, people dig full plate and swords. Dragons are cooler than whatever the frick the Egyptians were scared of, and while the antiquity Era is basically the same, it has that large central government that no player wants to be beholden to. Same reason people love the West. The isolation and lawlessness is freeing to people who are seeking adventure and danger. Playing in a pike and shotte era sounds fun on paper but it's not conducive to adventure unless you're doing some swashbuckling shit, which is best done on the high seas, once again, an isolated outcropping of safety amidst a huge tract of hostile territory.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Frick you, Egyptian mythology is obejectibly cooler that more cringe generic "Dragoooons".
            Frick your knights.
            Frick your castles.
            Frick your sword shit.
            Frick the "Medie-val" age.
            So shut up,go read your "medieshit" and go enjoy your Shit knights battling each other's over literal shit, idiot.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah I prefer mythology where a guy defeats his evil brother by cumming into his salad, what of it?
            Just say you're gay bro, it's a perfectly valid lifestyle choice.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, you idiot.
            I didn't say that.
            I can do that to:
            >I prefer knights fighting each other over some actual borders full of animal shit.
            >some crappy dragons.
            >Some ultra cringe Christianity shit analogy.
            >Crappy castles full of shit and unpainted rocks.
            Etc....
            So shut up you medievalist moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Egyptian mythology is objectively cooler than dragons
            You said this. Horus defeated Set by cumming in his salad. Set ate his nut butter and it weakened him to the point he could be defeated by Horus in battle.

            Hate to say it bro but that's gay.

            >muh poo
            Knights fight each other on battlefields far away from crops you moron
            >a giant fire-breathing lizard that can fly and torches your whole village like Godzilla while casting fricking magic spells or posing riddles to you because they can talk and think isn't interesting
            Shit taste
            >muh Christianity
            Yeah you're right I should have a proxy of sixteen different gods and goddesses who all get pissed off if you don't build enough statues or kill goats
            >bro the rocks aren't painted bro
            Sorry anon I'll make sure to paint all my castles in rainbow patterns so you can feel at home you fricking homo. The stone is the basecoat, you have colored roof tiles and huge banners and pennants and flags displaying a badass coat of arms for the color so it doesn't become garish.

            I'll fricking shit in your mouth anon, you can't make a fricking thing worth reading.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
            Im tired of all of you.
            SHUT UP.
            Egyptian Greek Roman Germanic mythologies are better than, your fricking cristianity. Ok??????
            I dont even fricking care about your dragons, idiot so stop that shit.
            Your castles are a moronic bunch of structures defenses, not aestheticly peasing, and just outright moronic.
            SO SHUT UP, go read your "medieshit" and go enjoy your Shit knights battling each other's over literal shit, moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Germanic mythologies
            Are a core part of the medieval identity.

            Egyptian myth has gods cumming in each other's salads lmao

            >I don't care about dragons
            Because you have shit taste
            >castles are moronic structures defenses
            Yeah and they look sweet as frick. Everyone agrees with me and no one agrees with you. Eat shit, loser

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            SHUT UP, you moron.
            Im still right though.
            The "Medie-val" age is completely overrated in fiction and fantasy, and you gus are all moronic idiots, trying to gaslitite me into, liking the shitty aesthetics of the worst age of the world.
            FRICK YOUR MEDIEVALS SHIT.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one cares lmao

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why did the gods curse your progenitors with brownness

            Frick all of you.
            Shut up,go read your "medieshit" and go enjoy your Shit knights battling each other's over literal shit, idiots.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Boo hoo hoo homie I don't give a frick what you think

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why did the gods curse your progenitors with brownness

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How do you make a fun fantasy setting that isn't boringly generic, anon?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Depends on what you want out of it. My current game is a gonzo style dungeon crawl so I just made satirical proxies of Rome going through an early Industrial revolution, Viking tribes, German barons, English/Irish rurals, and a Greek style collection of city states of platypus people. The Romans have an Emperor who gets assassinated and replaced every week, the Vikings are interested in nothing but raiding, the people of the lowlands are only interested in eating sausage rolls and getting drunk, the barons insist that using the most inefficient methods possible is the right way because their forefathers did it, and the Platypeople think every other city state is gay.

            An insane wizard has opened portals to different worlds in several major cities which keep spitting out people from across time and space so cowboys, Conans, aliens, Blackbeards, World War soldiers, samurai, kung fu masters, Monty Python knights, explorers, and other types are just dumped into a fantasy world. There's a portal hidden in the mountains that spits out dinosaurs and other prehistoric beasts that the serpent people opened in an effort to remake their old kingdom. There's a diaspora of crow people who can only speak via mimicry. A demon of greed runs the Imperial bank and basically holds the continent hostage because he can turn all of the widely circulated coinage into lead. Giant monsters are awakening across the lands as Lord Death stirs upon his Murder Mountain after centuries of apathy because his lieutenants are all squabbling instead of doing their jobs.

            Most of the names are dick jokes or puns, like Harrison's Fjord, the dreaded Mourning Wood, the Pus Sea, or the northern city of Snowsmor. Others are just references to things I like, such as the Valley of the Damned.

            If it was a novel it would suck but its worked as a place to adventure in because the gonzo nature of it is played straight.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You either take one that everyone already know or you have to spend the first 3 hours explaining why a zombie ninja run the werebear underworld.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You either take one that everyone already know
            That's how you get isekaislop where the protagonist openly gloats about the genre's established tropes, so I'll take the zombie ninja road

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Your entire era was the dark age of Europe's entire history
            According the revolutionary France. It's really similar to how woke say the world was really an hostile place in the 70's.

            >Hurr, antiquitygay, your period literally mean "it's very old" You are stupid moron I am an intellectual.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shut up you medievalist moron.
            Im tired of you medievalist idiots.
            Admit your period is overrated, and fantasy and fiction, would be better if it dropped the knights shit.
            Ok?
            Admit it or shut up, your decision, moron.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Good thing nobody gives a frick what you think

            We have had fantasy set in analogs of Egypt, Italy, Russia, China, Japan, Africa, Arabia, and Mesoamerica. Guess what? Nobody cared. Beyond the novelty response, they didn't go anywhere. After generations of fantasy literature, games, and movies, everyone flocked to the same 20 square feet dug out of Tolkeins backyard. You know why?

            The aesthetics rock. The weapons and tactics rock. The stories rock. The vibe rocks. The variety of tones and characters rock. They blow every special snowflake setting out of the water because it offers simplicity that can be managed and expanded upon without excessive explanation. It offers visceral thrills and simple joys that resonate across cultures and time. You can like what you like you're moronic if you can't see or appreciate the appeal.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you don't like Hollywood tier medieval fantasy, which is understandable. Its dogshit. IRL it was extremely beautiful and very colorful with lots of vibrant designs and colors all over. After the migration period it was pretty safe relative to antiquity and it gets safer as time goes on.
            The medieval period is also a direct continuation, and often an improvement, of what was present in antiquity and is a very nice mixture of Greek, Roman and Germanic culture, philosophy, architecture and military practices.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >phalanxes
        Those were around in the Middle Ages among infantry but I only know of a handful of times it was ever depicted well namely in Netflix's Outlaw King and in pic related

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because JRR Tolkien literally invented modern fantasy. People ITT mentioned D&D are missing that it was directly created from playing around with Tolkien's ideas, like its creation literally only exists because of the Lord of the Rings book series. Medieval Europe is the default fantasy setting because the very originator of modern fantasy was based on a fictional world set in its equivalent of the high middle ages.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >People ITT mentioned D&D are missing that it was directly created from playing around with Tolkien's ideas, like its creation literally only exists because of the Lord of the Rings book series.
      Pulp fiction was way more influential than Tolkein
      https://dungeonsdragons.fandom.com/wiki/Appendix_N

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    European Fantasy is inspired by Tolkien, which was inspired by Christianity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      elves and dwarves are my favorite part of the bible too

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tolkien mostly drew from Beowulf, the Norse Sagas, Nibelungliad (either the Volsung Saga or Wagner's), Arthurian Romances, and Kalevala; all which are either entirely non-Christian or only have a Christian veneer over what is essentially Northern European religions

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, but Tolkien also pulled heavily from christian theology/folklore with Eru and Melkor being essentially Lucifer and the Valar being angels rather than gods and the general morality expressed in his works
        He also took from Mediterranean works with Numenor being just not!atlantis

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's because writing fantasy is for the least original, most uninspired authors, so they just copy off of whatever fantasy setting they like with minor changes, and that which they copied off of was in fact a copy of another fantasy setting with minor changes, and so on, until you get to Tolkien who wrote the first "medieval" fantasy setting, except his is a deeply allegorical exploration of his culture and beliefs and not just pop culture geek garbage.

    It doesn't help that most fantasy is just wish fulfillment, hence the magic, sexy elf babes, and the self-insert protagonist being the chosen one that everyone loves. Frodo being chosen to carry the ring is a creative subversion of traditional heroic tropes where the humble passive hobbit is thrust into a herculean task due to their innate ability to resist the temptation of the ring, but even then he falters. The average modern fantasy protagonist is a power fantasy for estrogenized nu-males who need an outlet for their meager, yet repressed, masculine drive for adventure and heroism.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >his is a deeply allegorical exploration of his culture
      Can't a man write a story set in Northern Europe without some christcuck inserting his magical israelites and ww2 politics in it

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the whole genre of fantasy is pretty much off-brand Tolkien

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    European national identities were all created in the middle ages, shocking I know.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do we have to fight about it guys, medieval european stuff is badass and so is ancient greek and roman stuff there doesn't have to be any argument.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The printing press was invented in the 15th century, so millennia of tales and legends were set anachronistically in the 15th century. This is why King Arthur became a knight in plate armor.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >not middle age art
    Cringe

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there an explanation to why vast majority of fantasy is set/based on European middle ages
    For the same reason medieval Chinese and Japanese fantasy is popular in those areas. Its just cool. Modernity and technology sucked the wonder out of life and are usually very boring and antiquity isn't as well known or studied by the general audience outside of maybe the Roman Empire. Its the easiest to research and get it halfway right. Look at how many fantasy novels, comics or manga have 16th century plate armor beside great helms and mailed knights from around 1000 AD or how often they totally forget armor in the medieval period was heavily layered.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean Zelda was set here by the Japanese. They were looking for exoticism rather than setting it in Japan.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    migration era germanic lore is the foundation of fantasy

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japan wasn't a country at the time, nobody likes China not even China, Africa didn't write down shit, what else even is there for the 11th century? India? Lmao.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vast majority of consumers are westerners

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My belief, based on nothing concrete, is that western people feel much closer to the greeko-roman period than to the middle ages. The romans are perceived as what makes us western, while the middle ages as a sort of sleep of reason. This is age of enlightment propaganda that still influences us to this day.

    This worldviews leads to the middle ages being seen as fantastical and the best place to put monsters and heroes in.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I always felt that the west was more Germanic/Celtic with Latin/Greek peripherals. We still wear the same clothing, live in the same types of housing, were organized in the same manner and mostly used the same technology from the bronze age up until the modern era. This becomes evident when you look at any medieval village or town and the way it was organized and compare it to what was present in antiquity with the Germanic and Celtic peoples and compare it to what we saw in the early modern period and the medieval period.
      >Same social hierarchies
      >Similar religious systems/holdings
      >Same military technology and composition of elite household troops
      >Similar clothing that makes it very easy to follow transitions and fashion trends to modern clothing
      I always saw Rome and Greece as very foreign and while ancient Britain and Gaul and Germany gave me that same feel, it was significantly less so due to having more in common with them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is false, unless you define the west as the germanic/celtic countries only.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Its mostly what I associate the "West" with. Britian, Scotland, Ireland, France, Germany, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Austria, Poland (later on) and Czechia. You could expend it further east all the way to Anatolia as is normally done, and south to Italy, but when I envision the west its basically just the NW part of Europe. I don't know very much about the Balkans or Greece in the later medieval period outside of the crusades and Guscards romp through Byzantium (which always struck me as more oriental than western anyway).

          The West is Greek philosophy + Roman law + Germanic freedom + Christianity. It didn't really exist before 1000 AD

          Pretty much all the motifs and ideas that are present with the ideas of the west were already there prior to the great migration and Christianization. Architecture, clothing, proto-feudalism, a warrior caste serving as household troops to a local lord and as land holders themselves and mostly the same arms and armor. Go and look at oppida, they are a 1:1 architecturally to later medieval castle towns and walled cities minus the stone or brick fortifications in some cases.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The West is Greek philosophy + Roman law + Germanic freedom + Christianity. It didn't really exist before 1000 AD

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any fantasy set in Medieval Northern Europe can also be set in Classical Southern Europe with a few changes in props, sets, tunes, and script.
    >Maybe add gladiator duels in a colosseum in place of jousts at a tourney
    >maybe replace knights with charioteers if we're talking about Trojan times
    >everything else is almost the same

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Netflix's Blood of Zeus and Disney's Hercules are better than any and every Isekai anime there has ever been and ever will be.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because there was an European story imdustry. And European liked to write stories down and archive shit.
    No other culture did that nor did they move past the one oral tradition epic they retell or reread. They all just have some legends they never sold to other regions or cointries.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vast majority of fantasy readers are familiar with that and they want to read familiar things so the market answers demand.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because knights, castles, swords, dragons, plate armour, crusaders, vikings, mongols, etc. are very cool and interesting.

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