Is this a good alternative to Discord? I don't want to use IRC, and I don't care about VOIP chat.

Is this a good alternative to Discord? I don't want to use IRC, and I don't care about VOIP chat. I just want something simple and lightweight (I'm on Windows) and to try to get my friends on it.
But there are a lot of options. Do I just get the "Element" one?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    XMPP.
    I use Gajim on desktop, Conversations on mobile.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't have a mobile device, so I only care for my desktop. What is XMPP? I also don't see this "Gajim" in their lists
      https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/

      it takes a few israelitetube videos and even the slightest amount of ambition to learn IRC homosexual

      No, I mean, I've used IRC for over 20 years now. None of my current friends are on it and I want something people I hang out with will use, that isn't Discord. We can voip on Mumble. I also want to move my family onto it, (Matrix), since we're all distant IRL.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/zNnnUmM.jpeg

        Is this a good alternative to Discord? I don't want to use IRC, and I don't care about VOIP chat. I just want something simple and lightweight (I'm on Windows) and to try to get my friends on it.
        But there are a lot of options. Do I just get the "Element" one?

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  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it takes a few israelitetube videos and even the slightest amount of ambition to learn IRC homosexual

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and to try to get my friends on it.
    You will most likely fail in that regard since people do not like changes. Whats your problem with discord?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't work on Windows 7 really, and I mainly use that still. I don't want to be on Windows 10 all the time, I only use it for gaming.
      I'm just swamped and a bit confused by all these different clients. Are they just skins or are they fundamentally different? Because it seems like the latter. Should I just get "Element"?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Doesn't work on Windows 7 really
        Updating your OS will solve the issue.
        > I don't want to be on Windows 10 all the time
        Why?Whats the issue with windows 10 or 11?
        >I'm just swamped and a bit confused by all these different clients
        Now just imagine how confused your friends will be after seing dozens of different clients and servers.
        > Are they just skins or are they fundamentally different?
        >Should I just get "Element"?
        Element is fine but you probably shouldnt use matrix at the first place. Most people wont really do the switch just for you and you will end up alone and frustrated. The reality is not perfect and you should just learn to cope with it. If you have something sensitive to say, just meet people in real life.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'll try Element then, thanks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            element doesn't work on win7
            matrix is fricked

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >why won't this software support an almost 20 year old OS?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            frick off autist, wasn't talking to you

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            maybe you should go to twitter or reddit so you can block people you don't like?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cry about it. There is no point or purpose in supporting the 17 year old operating system you autistically cling to because you're incapable of adapting to changes.

            i don't even use win7 you fricking morons, I'm posting to help an anon.
            nobody gives a frick about your useless input, useless NEET c**ts

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i-it's for someone else
            Changes literally nothing. Nobody is supporting your baby duck OS that even the creator does not support anymore. Crying about a client not supporting it on behalf of someone else is even more pathetic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            cope homosexual, nobody respects you

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >breathing air
            Yeah but the real questions is: why do you give a frick? Take your HRT, dilate your axe wound and take your antipsychotic

            Stop crying

            >genuinely throwing this much of a temper tantrum because a 2024 application doesn't have support for a 2007 operating system

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >uuh, uh-uuuh, no you
            You need to be at least 18 to post on this site

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stop trolling. Please.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is that where you've degraded yourself now? You're actively accusing others of trolling because your reaction to being told this software obviously isn't going to support windows fricking 7 garnered mocking responses?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            why even bother using win7 when even fricking linux has better software support now

            element works on browser too, ya know??
            https://app.element.io/

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hey, that's pretty neat! Thanks

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >breathing air
            Yeah but the real questions is: why do you give a frick? Take your HRT, dilate your axe wound and take your antipsychotic

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stop crying

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cry about it. There is no point or purpose in supporting the 17 year old operating system you autistically cling to because you're incapable of adapting to changes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That sucks.

            You can use discord in browser

            That's actually what I do to get it to work on Windows 7, but it runs like shit.

            Depends on what you use Discord for. Do you use it for primarily chatting amongst a small group of friends? Sharing images? Reacting to things with gay emoji? Sure. Element can do all of that competently.

            Element still cannot into custom emoji, and its screen sharing capabilities are subpar. Voice is fine. You can use custom stickers. Android and especially iOS client are kind of bad. Desktop is fine.

            A small group that we just use as a chatroom essentially, but any time the word "IRC" is brought up people start going "But its old" "But I'm scared" "Don't hackers use that?"
            That's all good information though, thank you.

            Simple and lightweight?
            Matrix is neither.

            I've investigated a lot of discord alternatives and honestly the best is rocketchat. Mobile clients, web clients, desktop clients, AND self hosted. Only real caveat is that you need at least 2GB RAM to host a server. Any less and it stalls hard.

            I can't self host anything, I live in rural 'murikka and have third-world-tier internet.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I can't self host anything, I live in rural 'murikka and have third-world-tier internet.
            You can also pay for a server if you want, or self-host it on a VPS.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That could work. Its not like I'm a poorgay
            I'll look into that then, thanks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah they have payment plants for various 'group sizes' but the cheapest will always be to pay $10 or $15 a month for a VPS or whatever with at least 2GB of RAM, install it yourself and host it there. You'll need a domain too though tbh,but you can buy one cheap if it's a meme domain like .top

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why even bother using win7 when even fricking linux has better software support now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can use discord in browser

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Doesn't work on Windows 7 really
        Updating your OS will solve the issue.
        > I don't want to be on Windows 10 all the time
        Why?Whats the issue with windows 10 or 11?
        >I'm just swamped and a bit confused by all these different clients
        Now just imagine how confused your friends will be after seing dozens of different clients and servers.
        > Are they just skins or are they fundamentally different?
        >Should I just get "Element"?
        Element is fine but you probably shouldnt use matrix at the first place. Most people wont really do the switch just for you and you will end up alone and frustrated. The reality is not perfect and you should just learn to cope with it. If you have something sensitive to say, just meet people in real life.

        element works on browser too, ya know??
        https://app.element.io/

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it sucks bro just use https://movim.eu/ with xmpp

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't have friends so it doesnt bother me. I just use irc for talking to strangers.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Methinks you are trolling

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Switch to Linux, baby duck.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it works on win7 but you need to download old version. In my mozilla it's faster than desktop on win7.

        https://i.imgur.com/zNnnUmM.jpeg

        Is this a good alternative to Discord? I don't want to use IRC, and I don't care about VOIP chat. I just want something simple and lightweight (I'm on Windows) and to try to get my friends on it.
        But there are a lot of options. Do I just get the "Element" one?

        matrix is not perfect, can be buggy when you have lots of messages, but compare to bs like discord, telegram, viber it's much better alternative if you're not normie.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fewer features
    No.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I just want something simple and lightweight (I'm on Windows) and to try to get my friends on it.
    Your friends don't care about this though, so they will continue using discord.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on what you use Discord for. Do you use it for primarily chatting amongst a small group of friends? Sharing images? Reacting to things with gay emoji? Sure. Element can do all of that competently.

    Element still cannot into custom emoji, and its screen sharing capabilities are subpar. Voice is fine. You can use custom stickers. Android and especially iOS client are kind of bad. Desktop is fine.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Simple and lightweight?
    Matrix is neither.

    I've investigated a lot of discord alternatives and honestly the best is rocketchat. Mobile clients, web clients, desktop clients, AND self hosted. Only real caveat is that you need at least 2GB RAM to host a server. Any less and it stalls hard.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    I think .17hmr is really cool

    Use jabber/xmpp instead. Matrix has issues with crypto, with how chats are set ups, being REALLY bloated on the backend.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    doesn't matter if it doesn't have the users, as always

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bring your own users 🙂

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want voice chat. I have real friends who want to speak. We use signal for text

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Glanced through a portion of this, but a lot of red squares for Element are outdated or outright wrong.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Glanced through a portion of this, but a lot of red squares for Element are outdated or outright wrong.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've thought about running my own server to communicate with friends that isn't discord. Then I realized that no one wants to fricking do that. There is zero chance my friends would be willing to join an irc or whatever the frick matrix is. Just keep your discord account as anonymous as possible, only servers you should be in are those that belong to you and your friends. You can also use vencord to get most paid discord benefits.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      xmpp is the easiest to host check out snikket

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is that everyone already has Discord. There isn't a reason to move over, this isn't like Skype where we had 30 person group chats and large group calls. We have the option to create pretty organized servers with useful stuff like screensharing. Just because I care about privacy doesn't mean my friends care about theirs enough to use a whole different app, instead of the one they already have that does the same thing and more.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The problem is that everyone already has Discord.
          no. they don't. it's as if this board's collective of morons think if they repeat something often enough it magically becomes true.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ah yes, of course I did not count little abdul in the desert. He probably does not have access to discord. Mostly everyone in a first world country that plays vidya will be on discord. You are an out of touch boomer if you think that isn't true.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://tryquiet.org/

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Matrix client called C*nny

    Could not make this shit up

    its infested with them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cute and funny.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    On the desktop you simply want Element.
    On mobile, you want Element X, or to explore the alternatives.
    Element X isn't up to Element functionality yet, but Element doesn't work very well on mobile.

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