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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. Almost all pagans and monotheists believed in reincarnation or some derivative.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This anon is correct, especially as regarding “pagan” religions

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    buddhism is in the wrong place

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish people would stop posting redeemed zoomer garbage here.
    Not only is his "theology" incredibly reductionist and dumbed down to rock bottom levels, he's a Calvinist which means he's fundamentally moronic.
    >God chooses a bunch of people before they are born and determines they are going to burn in Hell forever and there is no way they can escape this fate
    >But this God is good and just and worth worshipping.
    Lol. Lmao even. God I hate Calvinists so fricking much.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't personally agree with Calvinism (2 Peter 3:9 refutes it) but in terms of sorting out theology, presenting things, RZ does a fairly good job.

      No. Almost all pagans and monotheists believed in reincarnation or some derivative.

      Which monotheists? Sikhs? Technically some Hindus are "monotheist" in that they believe all their gods are avatars of one God.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Which monotheists? Sikhs? Technically some Hindus are "monotheist" in that they believe all their gods are avatars of one God.

        Greek monotheists like the Pythagoreans and Platonists. Plato made an argument for reincarnation himself.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Greek monotheists like the Pythagoreans and Platonists.
          Neither the Platonists nor the Pythagoreans were monotheists.

          I don't personally agree with Calvinism (2 Peter 3:9 refutes it) but in terms of sorting out theology, presenting things, RZ does a fairly good job.

          [...]
          Which monotheists? Sikhs? Technically some Hindus are "monotheist" in that they believe all their gods are avatars of one God.

          Sikhs believe in reincarnation.

          if you don't mind anon, can you please elaborate on who the frick you are talking about? Not everyone knows every zoomer eceleb

          >Redeemed Zoomer
          Some israelite who roleplays as a Protestant for twitch donations. With /christ/'s demise he's one of the leading voices in online neochristianity

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Neither the Platonists nor the Pythagoreans were monotheists.
            They were both monotheists. The entire purpose of Pythagoras' school was to use mathematics to understand the cosmos and a monad. They probably were influenced by the oldest monotheistic religion, Zoroastrianism.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They were both monotheists
            Plato believed that there were, at minimum, 15 deities: Zeus who was the demiurge, the other 11 Olympians (of which there are actually 12), the Worldsoul, and Asclepius.

            >The entire purpose of Pythagoras' school was to use mathematics to understand the cosmos and a monad.
            And in that monad were the 12 (actually 13) Olympians.

            >They probably were influenced by the oldest monotheistic religion, Zoroastrianism.
            Zoroastrians are polytheists, by definition.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Plato believed that there were, at minimum, 15 deities: Zeus who was the demiurge

            What a painful conflation.

            >And in that monad were the 12 (actually 13) Olympians.

            Monadism is based on the One, hence mono meaning one.

            >Zoroastrians are polytheists
            Oh, it's moronic. Middle school dropout?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >What a painful conflation.
            Take it up with Plato.

            >Monadism is based on the One, hence mono meaning one.
            Pythagoras was a monist, meaning he thought that all things were one, he wasn't a monotheist. There's multiple humans in the monistic One, ergo there can be multiple Gods.

            >I have no idea what Zoroastrians actually believe
            They have no Latria/Dulia distinction, meaning that they are by definition polytheists. The worship owed to Mithra and Apam Nepat (the Powers of contract and water, respectively), to the Amesha Spentas (the seven intelligent abstractions of virtue), and to Ahura Mazda (the Skyfather) are all the same kind of worship. If you don't like it, take it up with Zoroaster.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Latria/Dulia distinction
            A cope by Catholics and Orthodox to pretend that their bowing down to images of Mary isn't idolatry.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I agree but fundamentally that is what separates monotheism from polytheism. If you believe that there are multiple entities that you can and should worship, you're a polytheist. If you believe that there's just one, you're a monotheist. Zoroastrians believe the former, so they're polytheists.

            >They have no Latria/Dulia distinction, meaning that they are by definition polytheists

            This is not a reasonable conclusion. It doesn't defend monotheism and it doesn't charge them as polytheists.

            >Take it up with Plato.
            I did. Waiting on you.

            >Pythagoras was a monist, meaning he thought that all things were one, he wasn't a monotheist
            Firstly this is incorrect, but secondly the only distinction reason to point out a distinction would be to argue that people are themselves divine, but that's already ingrained in the Bible with Luke 17:21.

            >This is not a reasonable conclusion.
            It is literally the definition of polytheism and monotheism. They have multiple Gods. They literally worship two of the Powers (for lack of a better term because I can't find the actual Avestan word for what they are) that were invested with free will when they were made to manage the world, on top of the 7 Amesha Spentas AND Ahura Mazda. How many Gods do they need?

            >It doesn't defend monotheism and it doesn't charge them as polytheists.
            I'm not trying to defend monotheism, and no one is charging them as polytheists, they themselves say that they are polytheists.

            >Waiting on you.
            I told you what Plato believed, I'm not sure what more you want.

            >but that's already ingrained in the Bible with Luke 17:21.
            Why would anyone care about the Bible in regards to talking about fricking Pythagoras?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They have no Latria/Dulia distinction, meaning that they are by definition polytheists

            This is not a reasonable conclusion. It doesn't defend monotheism and it doesn't charge them as polytheists.

            >Take it up with Plato.
            I did. Waiting on you.

            >Pythagoras was a monist, meaning he thought that all things were one, he wasn't a monotheist
            Firstly this is incorrect, but secondly the only distinction reason to point out a distinction would be to argue that people are themselves divine, but that's already ingrained in the Bible with Luke 17:21.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Forgot to mention that I'm transgender btw

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Plato wasn't even the capital G God socrates pupil,that was aristotle. Plato made no reference to a singular divinity.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Aristotle was a polytheist positing that the world was run by 47-55 coequal uncreated eternal deities who were the Olympians as spoken of by Hesiod and Homer. Plato's theology is more centralized as he posits that all of the Olympians are underneath the Demiurge (Zeus), but Zeus is just one of several Gods at that level and you can't pray to one deity without praying to others at the same time anyways.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >online neochristianity
            feel like I need to tell myself to touch grass just reading that

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kabbalahist israelites often believe in reincarnation. They call it gilgul

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you don't mind anon, can you please elaborate on who the frick you are talking about? Not everyone knows every zoomer eceleb

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's some idiot youtuber who made the picture in the OP image.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      If God chooses prophets before they were born, why not choose the fate of everyone else?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Then show us a breakdown of """Christian""" tenets, so they can accurately be broken down and placed on the flow chart.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Then show us a breakdown of """Christian""" tenets
        wow that was hard

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Having 2 steps
          Lol, you're really unsure about your faith. Why not include all that info in the first box? Are you that on the fence?

          What a load of fricking wank, btw.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Lol, you're really unsure about your faith. Why not include all that info in the first box? Are you that on the fence?
            hauh

            the hell do you mean by any of that

            usually when it comes to a broad categorization of faith like "Christian" - of which such a thing does indeed exist, yet it has many different subcategories such as specific church and theological standings on a variety of issues - it is good to have two simple, straightforward, yet detailed requirements. This accomplishes a goal of creating a theologically sound foundation, while providing room for free thought within the faith.

            Are you just harshly criticizing Christianity not out of a theological nor intellectual concern, but rather as a form of "revenge" over cultural holdups that have since been either toned down, or have little to do with theology?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            The fact you thougth this is the simplest way to outline your ideology is just laughable.
            Truly the power of '''god''', kek.

            >Why not include all that info in the first box? Are you that on the fence?
            There are some people who believe Jesus is Lord and Messiah, but do not believe Jesus is God/do not believe in the Trinity, such as Mormons, Jehovah's Witness' and Muslims. These people are not Christians.

            Yet some 'non-christans' are obviously above others in picrel? Why can't the tenets of your faith be listed in a simple manner without 'but maybe muh randos might think x'?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why can't the tenets of your faith be listed in a simple manner
            You were the one who asked for a flowchart.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            But that flowchart means Jesus is not Christian, kek.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            No it doesn't.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Did Jesus - when living - know he was crucified for his sins?

            Did he know he ascended to heaven while on Earth?

            Did he believe he is his father and the holy spirit?

            What evidence of his omni* do we have?

            Did he believe his mother was a virgin?

            If so, where's the evidence? And if there's no evidence, why are you speaking in his name?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Did Jesus - when living - know he was crucified for his sins?
            >Did he know he ascended to heaven while on Earth?
            He knew it was going to happen.
            >Did he believe he is his father and the holy spirit?
            Jesus is not his father.
            >Did he believe his mother was a virgin?
            Yes.
            >What evidence of his omni* do we have?
            >If so, where's the evidence? And if there's no evidence, why are you speaking in his name?
            I'm not here to prove to an atheist what I say is true, I am here to define Christianity.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I am here to define Christianity.
            You don't get to do that.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're right, I don't.
            The document I cited when making that flowchart does.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where's the proof that Jesus knew he was going to get crucified and ascend to heaven? I haven't seen any evidence of this.
            People said it happened, but did Jesus really know this? If he did, why wouldn't he have prevented it? Surely not preventing your own death goes against the commandments?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            He says it in Mark three separate times - 8:31-33, 9:30-32, and 10:32-34. He knew exactly what was going to happen and He did not stop it from happening. If He prevented Himself from being crucified, He could not have saved others. Meaning, He would not die and resurrect after three days, which came as further proof that He did what He came here to do; that He came to fulfill the Old Testament. If He didn't get crucified and saved Himself, who is He saving besides Himself?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Why not include all that info in the first box? Are you that on the fence?
            There are some people who believe Jesus is Lord and Messiah, but do not believe Jesus is God/do not believe in the Trinity, such as Mormons, Jehovah's Witness' and Muslims. These people are not Christians.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      How is that not heresy, and why don't the other Christians treat Calvinists as they do Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Calvinists are still trinitarian. Mormons and JW are not

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      but he was predestined to be moronic

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should you deny yourself pleasures?
    Is way to vague. Sometimes yes, sometimes no, depends on the context.

    T.spiritual but not religious

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    There were many greek pagans that believed in reincarnation.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Start question should be "how many gods do you worship" since Buddhists tend to syncretism. It would also allow the follow up question of "how many do you believe in" which could split Zoroastrians, most the Abrahamics, Mormons, Jains, and Hindus.
    As it stands, Shinto=Hindu, Buddhism=Hindu, Kemetic Paganism=Hindu, Wicca=Hindu, Gnostics=Muslim, Zoroastrians=Pagan...

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Theravada Buddhists don't worship gods( probably what RZ was thinking of by "Buddhist" Mahayana Buddhists do.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Theravada Buddhists don't worship gods
        They worship Asuras, Devas, Buddhas, and Bodhisattvas.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The prerequisite for being israeli (Did God become human in Jesus) is not a belief that israelites hold, so it's not accurate.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Buddhism isn't the denial of pleasure, it's lacking attachment to things that won't last forever.
    Many Pagan religions believe in Reincarnation.
    Since "Spiritual but not religious" doesn't have any set beliefs, it's automatically incorrect to ascribe the idea that they believe in indulging in pleasure as a belief that people of that position all or mostly share, even if it were true that most people of that opinion were hedonistic.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Buddhism isn't the denial of pleasure
      Why do buddhist monks live the most boring lives possible if not to deny pleasure?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just because you think a monastic life is "boring" and without pleasure, doesn't make it objectively so.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Muslims believe god is separate from the universe.
    If you look at Sufi texts and their actual attempts to define what 'god' is, 'god' is basically a concept or the Greek monad / Egyptian Aten that is contained within and surrounds everything in physical existence - so no.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not at all because NDEs do indicate a God exists. And NDEs are actually solid proof of life after death, because anyone can have them if they come close to and survive death. And they are so extremely real to those who have them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00ibBGZp7o

    As this NDEr described their NDE:

    >"Now, what heaven looks like? 'OMG' doesn't even describe how beautiful this place is. Heaven is, there are no words. I mean, I could sit here and just not say anything and just cry, and that would be what heaven looks like. There are mountains of beauty, there are things in this realm, you can't even describe how beautiful this place is. There are colors you can't even imagine, there are sounds you can't even create. There are beauties upon this world that you think are beautiful here. Amplify it over there times a billion. There are, it's incredibly beautiful, there's no words to describe how beautiful this place is, it's incredibly gorgeous."

    And importantly, even dogmatic skeptics have this reaction, because the NDE convinces everyone:
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

    So anyone would be convinced if they had an NDE, we already know this, no one's skepticism is unique.

    >muh brain chemistry

    Neuroscientists are convinced by NDEs too. What do skeptics think they understand that neuroscientists do not?

    >muh DMT causes it

    Scientifically refuted already, and NDErs who have done DMT too say that the DMT experience, while alien and really cool and fun, was still underwhelming to the point of being a joke when compared to the NDE.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, redeemedzoomer is a key point of why not everyone should be teaching. He grasps the bare minimum and then "teaches" people inaccurately. This is the summary of looking over a Wikipedia article for 5 minutes, adding a sprinkle of his own bias, and then claiming that this is the truth.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      So what are you and everyone else itt doing to teach correctly?

      Complaining about religious teachers is the easiest thing. Go on, start your channel

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    buddhists believe in gods (devas) though

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most do, some don't.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most do, some don't.

      Not all Buddhists believe you should deny yourself pleasures either

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can we please stop shilling redeemed zoomer here? The fact that demonic people like him have an audience at all is already very disheartening, being reminded of it is something I can do without.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Noting the star / state flag with islam

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. Christians believe in 3 gods.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >let’s reclaim the mainline! Reconquista!

    Cringe

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pagan is not a religion.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a catchall term for the various indigenous polytheisms found around the world, referring to the commonalities across them.

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