>It is immoral to kill people. >Why? >You would not want someone to do that to you, would you?

>It is immoral to kill people
>Why?
>You would not want someone to do that to you, would you?
>I would not mind that, I am suicidal

What is the counter for this?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    usually followed by pointing a gun at your head in which case we can usually tell how suicidal you actually are

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >what if I do your favorite family member first, via torture?
    >I would not mind that, I am a psychopath straw man determined to win this argument
    >then you are highly unusual, the rules don't cater to you

    What is the counter for this?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You seem to not understand how counterexamples work.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong. I just referred to the immorality of killing an individual qua family member rather than qua individual, which takes away the "totally not a crime if I do it to myself" excuse

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is not as intelligent as you think

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        how intelligent do I think it is?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is the home of irony and everything but sometimes I wish people would just respond to the post or if they have nothing to say, just shut the frick up

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How you feel isn't always equal to how others feel and being generally decent means at least pretending to give a shit about that noise.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    anon unveils the ultimate justification for commiting homicide by using facts and logic.

    if you feel like doing it, do it. if you don't, don't.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The golden rule is clearly flawed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      a polar bear is eating me the first opportunity it gets to

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that’s irrelevant. Following the golden rule doesn’t factor in how the other person wants to treat you. Stupid monkey.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        whens the last time you ate a polar bear burger?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Animals ≠ people
      Dumbass

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        blacks =/= people

        See how easy that is?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that tweet is incredibly insightful

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Locking you up in a mental institution.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kant fixed the golden rule like 250 years ago.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh categorical imperative
      The actual fix would be to return to the archaic version, treat others as they treat others.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Putting "muh" in front of the thing you're critiquing isn't an argument.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          it is self-evident why Kantcuckoldry is wrong

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's utilitarianism

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where's the utility of getting your bike stolen? Lmfao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >t.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Argument not found.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >trying to argue against kantianism by likening it to a comic about consequentialism
            Genuinely below 80 iq.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    extend specific actions to the basic concept of respecting people wishes.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"Society has deemed it is wrong to kill people without good reason"
    >"But what if society says it's good to needlessly kill people? "
    >"Then said society won't last very long and fail"
    >"I didn't agree to sign this social contract "
    >"Well too bad bucko, maybe if you present a good enough argument society might change it's mind"
    Check and mate

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i wouldnt want to be arrested, but some people should be arrested
    the golden rule doesnt make a whole lot of sense

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you request someone else kills you, you make them a murderer. They lose their innocence
    All immorality and crime is loss - loss of possession, life, bodily integrity, happiness etc.
    Killing is wrong because you do not have the right to take the life. To cause the loss of the life. Asking someone to kill you makes them guilty and they lose their innocence.
    ALL immoral actions come down to causing the other party loss of some type.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Killing is wrong because you do not have the right to take the life.
      Why not?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>I would not mind that, I am suicidal
    Most people aren't

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sorry about your mental illness man, I hope the rope snaps your neck when you do it lol
    what's the counter to this?

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even suicidal people don't enjoy pain. The reason they are suicidal is because they hate pain. And let's not pretend the desire to kill pops out of nowhere. There is action and reaction, so the desire to kill is a reaction from something.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tolerating murder would lead to the quick collapse of society
    >but i hate society
    Most people don't want to live in an anarchic hellscape where wanton violence is the norm. That's why laws fundamentally exist

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You would not want
    Completely irrelevant. God said creation is good which means decay is bad.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can't force that on anyone else, no matter how you feel. You are free to peacefuly end your own existence.

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