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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ali is like the George Harrison of Muhammad's crew

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's Muhammad.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Explain

        That's a lie.

        There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad and Ali are his messengers.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Ali
          >messenger
          No

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Explain

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ali was the last of the four rightly guided calliphs after the death of the prophet Muhammad and they schism between Sunni and Shia. It's a bit surprising that Ali was the last considering how close he was to his cousin. They went through Abu Bakr, Omar, and even Othman before Ali finally got to lead the Muslims.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        it seems ali had no real political power but the khawarij and the sabaites did

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The illustrations of those birds are cute. I'd rather worship them instead of a dumb Bedouin savages or a israelite on a stick.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this the thread where I bring up the fact Shias believe Ali is a pre-existent conceptual being?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      no

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      better a person than a book

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, Shias believe Ali is created, even tho they believe he’s pre-existent.

        Sunnis outright believe the Quran is co-eternal with God

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Sunnis outright believe the Quran is co-eternal with God
          Not necessarily. In fact, I've never even heard this claim irl

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            homie sunnis believe muhammad and the quran are coequal and coeternal, wtf are you smoking? this is islam 101.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's a lie.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's common knowledge. Sunnis came to power in the Abbasid caliphate because of fallout from the debate of the quran's createdness vs uncreatedness.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            homie sunnis believe muhammad and the quran are coequal and coeternal, wtf are you smoking? this is islam 101.

            > sunnis believe muhammad and the quran are coequal and coeternal
            That's flat out heresy. The debate was about ALLAH and the quran being coeternal and the mutazilis had the right idea in that they were not.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >mutazilis had the right idea in that they were not.
            they lost.
            >That's flat out heresy
            it's orthodoxy.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >israelite deity is uncreated and eternal
            Ergo he's a deity.
            >quran is uncreated and coeternal with the israelite deity
            Ergo it's a deity.
            >muhammad is uncreated and coeternal with the israelite deity and the quran
            Ergo he's a deity.

            Sounds pretty simple to me.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >quran is uncreated and coeternal
            False
            >muhammad is uncreated and coeternal
            False

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            silence mushrik

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I will not, LARPer

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're the larper considering you don't know the most basic shot

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            t.shiah dog

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >moron gets outed at not knowing basic sunni theology
            >response is you're a shia innit
            pathetic

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            No Muslims believe Mo is uncreated, not even Sufis and Shias who are the ones to deify him the most

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >We don't believe Jesus is god, Or in a 'second coming' - but this guy whose the nephew of our prophet will do a 'not' second coming [and Jesus will be there as his side kick] to fight the 'not' anti-christ.
      Shia's are just Oriental-Christians who did reverse Takiya and then forget they were lying.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Dante puts Muhammad in the hell section for schismatics for creating Islam from Christianity
    >For some reason he also puts Ali in there as an afterthought presumably for Sunni-Shia schism

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Also puts Saladin and various other significant Muslim philosophers in Limbo.
      Divine Comedy really was just an advanced shitpost, wasn't it?

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Crazy how Sunnis, Shias, and western scholars all generally consider Ali to be a very moral and courageous man

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      the infidels dont like ali as a person but as a concept since he represents civil war in the ummah

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    he won though. He's been unironically worshipped by many for the past 1500 years

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      being worshipped instead of God is not a W

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        it is

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          kys mushrik

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I agree Muslims are pretty cringe for worshiping Muhammad.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          We don't.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Shias worship mohammed more than sunnis do they think he's basically god inside of human like christians.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Do Shiites believe that Muhammad is a coeternal and coequal second deity like Sunnis do?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            More than that they believe the soul of god was inside him when written the Quran, and god chooses an imam he also choose Ali.

            But they don't focus too much on hadiths as far i know that what makes them different than sunnis funny enough they make fun of sunnis with the same hadiths that anti islamists use.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            In shi'ism all prophets are created from a created light called Nur Muhammad while all Imams are created from/inherit Nur Allah

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            In shi'ism all prophets are created from a created light called Nur Muhammad while all Imams are created from/inherit Nur Allah

            You fricking morons that’s not how this works, what happened is, Shias believe Mo, Fatima, and the 12 Imams are pre existent conceptual beings who transcend everything except Allah himself. While Sunnis believe Mo was a normal human (at least on paper)

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're an idiot. In shia islam Prophets are from Nur Muhammad and Imams from Nur Allah

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            only extreme sufis believe this about Muhammad PBUH but most sunnis dont

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            So, what you're saying is that Sunnis are tritheists and Shiites are pentadecatheists.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Correct, yes.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            no crossisraelites are tritheists

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty much yes

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