It was all a meme

>be me
>workin for the gubmint
>graduate military school and get my first programming position
>it's a full blown modern software development company, not even on the base
>comfy office, but it's mostly WFH anyways
>my team is exclusively senior devs and they're all 100% remote
>they have no idea how I got placed here
>I have no idea how I got placed here
>it's a miracle directly from god almighty
>zero requirement for me to be productive ever, my entire job for the next 4 years is to learn
>I'm essentially an intern for the next several years
>unbelievably blessed by this opportunity to work on a team of experienced devs with my task being to git gut for 4 years
>first task is to do a simple fake ticket for practice
>I can't do ANYTHING because school just taught us the fundamentals and the rest is supposed to be OJT
>ask the team how the frick I'm supposed to do this, where's my OJT?
>they get mad because I exist there, i'm not supposed to be there and they don't give a frick
>"figure it out, read the documentation and watch udemy tutorials"
>my "mentor" ignores my messages or responds with 3 word answers that ignore 90% of my message
>my boss has never had an in-person job, can't relate to how insane remote onboarding is
>no workshops to learn the tech stack, no shadowing, no pair programming, even the mentor is fake
>the OJT is literally "figure it out yourself"
>mfw programming was always self-taught
>yet everyone shits on self-taught devs
It was all a meme.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if dubs post classified on the udemy forums to teach your CO an important lesson

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw programming was always self-taught
    yup, and always will be.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Since then I've just been doing tutorials and shit, which is ironically what people get hate for doing. So...is this typical?

      In other jobs are day one newbs straight out of college (after getting through all the onboarding shit) actually expected to just spend 3 weeks on their first ticket because they're teaching themselves jira/trello/confluence/multiple languages and frameworks/libraries/docker/figma/etc.?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >programming was always self-taught
      You are wrong and setting yourself up for failure. Programming follows lines of thought and logic that must be adhered to in order to interpret, understand, and execute any given language. Without formal training you are stumbling in the dark and setting yourself up to frick things over at your current/next job. Your coworkers are right to be mad and bitter about you, your mentor is right to be upset about you wasting his time, and you're a moron for wasting a thread to talk about your incompetence. What a waste of taxpayer money.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this. you're no better than a bootcamp coder from india, OP.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this. you're no better than a bootcamp coder from india, OP.

        So then what's a typical onboarding process like in your experience?

        Also I don't know what gave you the idea I'm not working on a degree. However, college is essentially just self-teaching so far in my experience. I'm about halfway through my BS and the textbooks and youtube teachers/chatgpt/google are infinitely more helpful than any lectures I've had, so it's still self-teaching. Even the math classes, the most formal/structured material of all, was 99% self-learning from the textbook.

        Anyways what's with the hateful tone? You seem more bitter than any of my coworkers. Imagine just randomly jumping to the most uncharitable, spiteful assumption that I'm not going to take full advantage of this opportunity to set myself up for success (and sooner rather than later become a productive team member).

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So you're a leech. Got it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Actual crazy person

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You seem more bitter than any of my coworkers.
          Welcome to IQfy. Don't worry about it OP, your experience is much more common than you think, both in terms of OJT and in education I went through similar things. It's not a WFH thing either, a lot of the learning process is just badly structured and the people in charge of it don't have the time nor the patience to do it properly. All I can say is stick with it and don't let them break you. We have more learning resources at our disposal than in all of human history.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          there's a reason professors aren't called teachers.

          >programming was always self-taught
          You are wrong and setting yourself up for failure. Programming follows lines of thought and logic that must be adhered to in order to interpret, understand, and execute any given language. Without formal training you are stumbling in the dark and setting yourself up to frick things over at your current/next job. Your coworkers are right to be mad and bitter about you, your mentor is right to be upset about you wasting his time, and you're a moron for wasting a thread to talk about your incompetence. What a waste of taxpayer money.

          gay

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Without formal training you are stumbling in the dark and setting yourself up to frick things over
        OP's case notwithstanding, this is not true. You don't need formal training (i.e., didactic instruction) to learn logic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thank god we dont have many of the likes of you on this planet, otherwise we wouldn't have even started utilizing fire by now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      spbp

      >programming was always self-taught
      You are wrong and setting yourself up for failure. Programming follows lines of thought and logic that must be adhered to in order to interpret, understand, and execute any given language. Without formal training you are stumbling in the dark and setting yourself up to frick things over at your current/next job. Your coworkers are right to be mad and bitter about you, your mentor is right to be upset about you wasting his time, and you're a moron for wasting a thread to talk about your incompetence. What a waste of taxpayer money.

      have a nice day troony, we want nothing to do with you

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah that sucks
    but i mean you got a job for literally free for which others fried their patience and brain to get it, no wonder they hate your guts

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    luck of the draw. i had a similar experience at my first internship @ household name tech company. "if we knew how to do it, we wouldnt be asking you to do it" - my mentor anytime i asked a question.
    that sucks but the next part is much worse. interviewers will want to hear about what you accomplished in your internship and you either try to bullshit or you be honest and badmouth your team. neither goes over well

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >kids not knowing what meme means

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >4 yr 70% self taught
    i'm certain to know more than a 4 yr grad. however, quit your job now or dump their data.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>yet everyone shits on self-taught devs
    Ironic, isn't it?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not at all

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