Its a little known fact that aboriginal australians actually had writing systems in the form of message sticks.

Its a little known fact that aboriginal australians actually had writing systems in the form of message sticks.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >message sticks
    Meanwhile, brownoids in the ANE, TAM, and even parts of South and Central America were writing down generations worth of records and stories for thousands of years.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      moving the goalpost i see…

      you ppl go on and on about how aboriginals need to do so-and-so to have a real civilisation, but once the criteria is met you say its not good enough

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you ppl go on and on about how aboriginals need to do so-and-so
        This is the first time I have so much as thought about aboriginal people in at least five years, and I've never posted about them on IQfy, or any other board. The only things I know about them are based on what I've heard from an Australian guy I occasionally hang out with, and stuff from that HBO show Leftovers.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >b..but i dont know anything about aboriginals! thats why i have such a strong opinion about them being inferior!

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >i have such a strong opinion about them being inferior
            Point out my strong opinion on aboriginals.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            kys hateful piece of crap

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not an answer.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not that anon.

            >message sticks
            Meanwhile, brownoids in the ANE, TAM, and even parts of South and Central America were writing down generations worth of records and stories for thousands of years.

            The word "meanwhile" here is meant to drive home a meaningful difference between the culture OP's talking about, and other "brownoid" cultures that had managed to exceed the "message sticks" of OP's culture.

            You could make the case that it's not a strong opinion since like you said, you don't think about aboriginals very often.

            It's not the length of time you spend ruminating on a topic that makes a claim about a thing "strong", the claim itself can be strong while you're largely indifferent on the topic. "Why don't we solve global warming by killing half the population?" for example, I can be indifferent/ignorant about a thing but still have a strong view on it.

            Would you say your post doesn't come off strong? Or maybe "indelicate", but then again this is IQfy.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            People are simply sick of blatant aboriginal lying anon. It isn't complicated.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, they were fricking hunter-gatherers, they were as far from real civilization as it gets and a couple of message sticks don't get them much closer.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >hunter-gatherers developed proto-writing
          >you just take this fact to shit on aboriginals
          tbh that's a fascinating insight into human origins, would it kill you to look past race science for once?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is no goalpost to shit. I can just tell this is another bullshit lie I can now add to my list of woke Australian or tribal revisionist bullshit claims.

        Claim 1) Aboriginal woman on live television claimed that
        images of the Eyre Peninsula should never be shown on public television because Aboriginals have always known that it looks like the female vegana.
        Answer) Aboriginals never had maps and there is no mountain viewing point that allows you to see the whole Eyre Peninsula.

        Claim 2) 30 cm tall Circular arrangements of stones the exact same size and shape as fireplaces were actually two story buildings and permanent living spaces.
        Answer) First settlers and anthropologists in Australia recorded everything they saw. Aboriginals had temporary shelters of broken branches arranged in a way that resembled a bonfire before being lit.
        The most sophisticated shelters ever seen were once again random branches arranged in a tipi fashion but with an added animal skin blanket that was draped over the top. These weren't true transportable tents like Native American Indians. Not a single image of a stone structure. Some Aboriginals did live in caves though.

        [...]
        for newbies and lurkers, what they are saying is bullshit, aboriginals made stone houses and farmed and domesticated animals and did have written systems

        >for newbies and lurkers, what they are saying is bullshit, aboriginals made stone houses and farmed and domesticated animals and did have written systems
        Anthropologists and first settlers recorded plenty of temporary shelters made of branches but not a single stone building, mud brick building, tent or proper wooden building.
        Aboriginals were pure hunter gatherers and never domesticated a single animal. The closest they came to domestication was When The Vietnamese Traded their dogs with the New Guineans who then traded those Dogs with Australian Aboriginals. These dogs are now known as Dingoes. Aboriginals simply ate the dingoes until around 150 years ago. They then observed the hunting and guarding abilities of dogs by watching Europeans on cattle/sheep stations

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Claim 3) Aboriginals cannot shoot or farm Kangaroos to make money because their culture forbids the hunting of kangaroos.
          Answer) Australian Aboriginals prior to and during early contact were all observed hunting kangaroos daily with spears and throwing sticks. Modern aboriginals simply refuse to work for food or money.

          Claim 3) Aboriginals and Torres Straight Islanders need public warnings on film whenever a deceased person is shown.
          Answer) Aboriginals themselves thousands of years ago made cave paintings of their ancestors and that doesn't upset or worry them. They don't need warnings. They are full of shit.

          Based. I've had this feeling for a while being involved in Australian academia and hearing anthropologists romanticise Aboriginals to a ridiculous extent. Even in secondary school, I remember the nonsense about them never engaging in war, and clearly it's only gotten worse since then. Nice to see someone writing down all their bullshit so when cooler heads prevail, the actual facts can be discussed publicly.

          >It's interesting that there's a message stick, but I'm skeptical of the depth of the message that's being attributed to the X's and Is.
          There is no message anon.
          Australia has one of the worst cases of leftists making up completely bullshit histories for primitive peoples to "uplift" them.
          Blatant lying.
          Who first claimed that Beethoven was black?
          An Australian Academic.
          Who first claimed that J.S.Bach's wife composed all his music?
          An Australian Academic.
          American leftists don't even lie half as much about Native Americans as Australian Academics lie about Australian Aboriginals.
          [...]
          >its not just x's, and theres carvings on the edges too moron
          Wow mentally ill anon. Carved edges that are very roughly equally spaced and thus mean absolutely nothing.
          Wow mentally ill anon. That stick looks identical to sticks that are just Magic sticks.
          Hell, there are Woomeras ( spear throwers ) that are more ornately carved and decorated than that stick.
          It doesn't mean anything. It never meant anything. It never conveyed a message. You are being lied to.

          >leftists making up completely bullshit histories for primitive peoples to "uplift" them
          Especially with how easy it is to be a white leftist and to claim to be Aboriginal if you have a smidgen of indigenous DNA.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            lol You don't even need a smidgen.
            https://wikisummaries.org/prize-winning-aborigine-novelist-revealed-as-a-fraud/

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Even the Aboriginal basket making is suspicious.
            https://collections.museumsvictoria.com.au/items/233960

            "This small oval-shaped binak (basket) was most likely purchased from Coranderrk Aboriginal Station around the 1870s or 1880s. It has been made using the bundle-coil technique, traditionally practised by Aboriginal women of south-eastern Australia and used to make a range of small and large baskets. The basket's woven light and dark chequer design is very rare.
            Pre-contact, baskets made by Victorian weavers did not have fixed handles; they were made without them or with a string made from handspun plant fibre attached to the back of the basket. Baskets were made using a variety of fibres, including tussock grass, spiny-headed mat-rush, flax, sedge and reed.
            The establishment of church-run missions and stations saw a focus on teaching Aboriginal women domestic duties, such as sewing and basket making, in the European style."

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I remember the nonsense about them never engaging in war
            They still had frequent skirmishes in the 1970's that were purely traditional

            https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2008/11/the-cultural-roots-of-aboriginal-violence/

            "Was traditional Aboriginal society violent?

            Yes. On his earliest visits, McKnight recorded older people’s stories of violence many years earlier, and others are available in the 1971 memoir by a local, Dick Roughsey’s Moon and Rainbow. They are confirmed by the work of T.G.H. Strehlow, Joan Kimm and others on other parts of Australia. There was sometimes large-scale (but short-term) war between different groups, for example when one group was blamed by others for causing a cyclone. Small-scale violence occurred regularly over the breaking of taboos, elopements and punishments for infidelity and disputes about the distribution of meat."

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      So what?

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Its a little known fact that aboriginal australians actually had writing systems
    Complete and utter bullshit.
    I can guarantee you that this is another example of a "tribal elder" today making up shit about an old
    artifact.
    For a start Australian Aboriginals didn't have "cloth". They never weaved a textile clothing out of animal hair, plant fibers etc. They didn't wear singlets or trousers.
    All they had were fur blankets in cold regions.
    Also Aboriginals were nomadic and constantly rebuilt temporary shelters hastily made from collected branches.
    So this "message stick" claim is 100% bullshit.
    Nothing more than a complete and utter lie.

    Also Australian Aboriginals had no stone buildings.
    They never had reusable tents.
    They never farmed.
    They never developed archery.
    They never developed slings.
    They never developed bolas.
    They never domesticated animals.
    90% of them were completely naked all year apart from some cold coastal regions and Tasmanian/Kangaroo Island Aboriginals.
    Some wove baskets from reeds and branches but they never developed a fabric like hemp/cotton or wool despite Australia having native plant analogues.
    No Aboriginal group in Australia ever developed a written communication system.
    There's no native alphabet/logogram or symbol system.
    Aboriginals even stopped cave painting before Europeans arrived for some unknown reason.
    Tasmanian Aboriginals forgot how to make fire.

    Mainland Aboriginals were experts at turning numerous poisonous desert plants into sources of food by leeching in water or roasting. The problem is usually alkaloids, tannins, Oxalic acid etc.
    Nothing unique to Australian Aboriginals but still impressive. There are a few other interesting things that can be said about Australian Aboriginals but over-all...
    They were very technologically and culturally backwards and primitive compared to the native New Zealanders and New Guineans.
    Australian Aboriginals are a stone-age time capsule of zero change.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This seems like a pretty desperate attempt to humanize what to this day are basically alcoholic versions of the missing link.

      for newbies and lurkers, what they are saying is bullshit, aboriginals made stone houses and farmed and domesticated animals and did have written systems

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        [source needed]

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          theres lots of books and documentaries now and proof of message sticks

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >aboriginals made stone houses and farmed and domesticated animals
            This is what you need a source for, not the message sticks.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            dark emu book and theres doccumentaries

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >dark emu book and theres doccumentaries
            So woke pseudo-non-fiction lol...

            its true https://blog.qm.qld.gov.au/2012/11/06/message-sticks-rich-ways-of-weaving-aboriginal-cultures-into-the-australian-curriculum/

            >its true https://blog.qm.qld.gov.au/2012/11/06/message-sticks-rich-ways-of-weaving-aboriginal-cultures-into-the-australian-curriculum/

            They never give a breakdown of the "writing" symbols. They never give artifact or provenance dates. They never say how long ago Aboriginals started making such claims and which aboriginals were making such claims.
            That's because when you actually look it up. It's all extremely recent, there's no actual writing system with standard meanings and the sticks are indistinguishable from Tjurunga magic sticks which are just artistically decorated sticks.

            no aboriginals have claimed they can't hunt kangaroos unless your talking about a small specific tribe in order to demonise us

            >no aboriginals have claimed they can't hunt kangaroos
            Well you're lying because that's the excuse I always hear from them and their supports.
            >in order to demonise us
            You demonize yourselves. I was sleeping in a car ages ago when I was woken up by a drunk Aboriginal girl who threatened to stab me if I didn't give her money. Another abo girl recently was so drunk on the bus that she pissed all over the floor. This is in Adelaide too, we don't have many Aboriginals.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            good maybe your can get fricked in the ass by bbc next time you sleep in your car freaken loser.

            My family is aboriginal and none of them talked about not being able to hunt kangaroos, tho we would eat emu instead of kangaroo unless i was with my white mum she was more into kangaroo, kangaroo also tastes like shit.

            And not having a standardised writing system doesnt mean its not a writing system, you angloid/potato-n166r5 have suppressed all the knowledge and its coming out now finally.

            Unfortunatly there are too many aboriginal tribes that want to keep loads of things secret, although it doesn't benifit anyone keeping these things secret or revealing the facts since there is so much people denying it when theres clear undeniable evidence

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >good maybe your can get fricked in the ass by bbc next time you sleep in your car freaken loser.
            Literally only trannies say weird shit like that...
            >My family is aboriginal
            So you're a half/quarter or competely non-aboriginal autistic transsexual obsessed with "BBC"...

            >And not having a standardised writing system doesnt mean its not a writing system
            Your "writing" can't communicate anything If symbols have no agreed upon meaning among more than one person.
            Your "writing sticks" are just magic decorated sticks.
            They never communicated anything.
            The description in the OP's Picture is even historically anachronistic.
            Aboriginals didn't wear singlets or trousers, didn't make cloth, didn't have a currency system, didn't make permanent abodes, didn't have universally agreed upon inter-tribal place names.
            Aboriginals certainly bartered but that's it. The rest indicates that it is fraudulent history.

            >Unfortunatly there are too many aboriginal tribes that want to keep loads of things secret
            They don't have anything to keep secret. They have forgotten all their past practices and today just make up new ones whilst collecting welfare and dying of alcoholism of diabetes.
            Literally all there knowledge was documented 200 years ago.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            why did your mind go to trannies? most people would just call them a psycho.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >good maybe your can get fricked in the ass by bbc next time you sleep in your car freaken loser.
            completely normal thing to say to someone who showed respect to whats respectable about abo culture, even if he voiced his displeasure about the moderns.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            ur scum, die from bbc insertions

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This seems like a pretty desperate attempt to humanize what to this day are basically alcoholic versions of the missing link.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks to OP's shit, whiny behaviour I'm now informing IQfy that the didgeridoo was only ever used by a few tribes in the Northern Territory, and only spread after whites showed up. The only other musical instrument they used was the fricking clapping stick.
    Congratulations you massive gay.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Xs and two lines for all that
    This is mnemonic, at best.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      are you blind look at the edges moron

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Interesting if true.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      its true https://blog.qm.qld.gov.au/2012/11/06/message-sticks-rich-ways-of-weaving-aboriginal-cultures-into-the-australian-curriculum/

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/dXph9dJ.jpg

        Its a little known fact that aboriginal australians actually had writing systems in the form of message sticks.

        Lol, wow, hundreds of people repeating the same crap.
        Random stick with decorative scratches that doesn't mean anything and has no standard syntax. All examples were made in the last 150 years. Most within the last 70 years.
        These message sticks are completely indistinguishable from Tjurunga which are nothing more than magical stones or sticks that are carried around for generations due to the powers they are believed to contain.
        These magic items are very valuable to them. It has absolutely nothing to do with communicating anything.
        This language claim was only popularized very recently and mostly by non - aboriginals.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Huh, neat.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Huh, neat.
          Samegayging is mentally ill OP...
          You know it literally provides no concrete extra information.
          Literally a leftist Academic decided one day decided to call a random decorated stick "writing".

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            LMAO Why do you hate aboriginals so much?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Correcting your misinformation is not hate.
            Why do have such a victim complex?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            your lying

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Can't even muster up an argument. How pathetic.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, I'm the person they responded to.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Claim 3) Aboriginals cannot shoot or farm Kangaroos to make money because their culture forbids the hunting of kangaroos.
    Answer) Australian Aboriginals prior to and during early contact were all observed hunting kangaroos daily with spears and throwing sticks. Modern aboriginals simply refuse to work for food or money.

    Claim 3) Aboriginals and Torres Straight Islanders need public warnings on film whenever a deceased person is shown.
    Answer) Aboriginals themselves thousands of years ago made cave paintings of their ancestors and that doesn't upset or worry them. They don't need warnings. They are full of shit.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      no aboriginals have claimed they can't hunt kangaroos unless your talking about a small specific tribe in order to demonise us

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Australian Aborigines honestly look like homosexual Erectus. I always have to bleach my eyes after looking at pictures of Aborigines in Google Images.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also Australian aboriginals never developed blowguns/blowpipes either. Literally all they had were spears and throwing sticks.

    So over-all Australian Aboriginals are more technologically primitive than Neanderthals.
    So bipeds who aren't even scientifically classified as humans were more advanced than aboriginals.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I read this message stick? It looks like three X's,a small circle, two X's, two vertical lines, and three more X's. And there are notches around the top and bottom of the item.
    What shows that:
    a) It is from an Aurukun man
    b) Given to a Weipa man
    c) Consenting to the marriage of his sister
    d) A payment of cloth from the woman
    e) A singlet and trousers from the man
    f) The completion of an abode

    It's interesting that there's a message stick, but I'm skeptical of the depth of the message that's being attributed to the X's and Is.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      its not just x's, and theres carvings on the edges too moron

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's interesting that there's a message stick, but I'm skeptical of the depth of the message that's being attributed to the X's and Is.
      There is no message anon.
      Australia has one of the worst cases of leftists making up completely bullshit histories for primitive peoples to "uplift" them.
      Blatant lying.
      Who first claimed that Beethoven was black?
      An Australian Academic.
      Who first claimed that J.S.Bach's wife composed all his music?
      An Australian Academic.
      American leftists don't even lie half as much about Native Americans as Australian Academics lie about Australian Aboriginals.

      its not just x's, and theres carvings on the edges too moron

      >its not just x's, and theres carvings on the edges too moron
      Wow mentally ill anon. Carved edges that are very roughly equally spaced and thus mean absolutely nothing.
      Wow mentally ill anon. That stick looks identical to sticks that are just Magic sticks.
      Hell, there are Woomeras ( spear throwers ) that are more ornately carved and decorated than that stick.
      It doesn't mean anything. It never meant anything. It never conveyed a message. You are being lied to.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did you just find out you are part aboriginal or something? I can't see any other reason for this weird fantasy you have concocted.
    They didn't even have cloth, so you "translation" is obviously bullshit. Not to mention there in no way for those slashes to be part of any language(no syntax, or uniformity) .Look up cuneiform and linear a/b to see what real an actual primitive language looks like.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    HAHAHAHAHAH

    good one

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The 20k year old rock art is real and changes how we have to model human development.
    If there was any evidence for this being real and neolithic it would change everything. All you have to do is find older examples of it with some semblance of a decodable message instead of appealing to second hand stories.

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