Its painfully obvious that the cinnamon desktop is the only desktop in the linux space that it's own developers actually use.

Its painfully obvious that the cinnamon desktop is the only desktop in the linux space that it's own developers actually use. There is nothing missing here and everything works correctly. It does not suffer from silly amounts of crashing that KDE suffers from, and it's software is not gimped like GNOME's. People just write cinnamon off because it looks "boring" because it looks like windows. I am convinced the developers of other desktops like GNOME/KDE/Xfce/MATE etc do not even use their own product and are likely appletards.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Depends on GTK
    No thanks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It still relies on GTK and Gio thoughbeit

      >muh GTK
      it literally does not matter to an end user

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then why bring up whether it's a fork or not? It also definitely affects the end user, as all of ebussy's stupid decisions trickle down on sane projects that just happen to rely on GTK

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everything you said about Cinnamon applies identically to Xfce and MATE, and all three are just old versions of GNOME. The KDE devs definitely dogfood their own DE, but also clearly none of them have less than 4 GiB VRAM.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i don't think xfce is a gnome fork

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It still relies on GTK and Gio thoughbeit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          gnome didn't make gtk, either, gtk predates gnome

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          literally what is wrong with Gio and Glib (you are free to shit on GObject)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            buggy and bloated with unnecessary stuff which if you remove will...make it even more problematic
            >cloud,google,network connected,metadata
            can't open a single directory or a file without it writing something to disk (in a format that is not plain text)
            no.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everything you said about Cinnamon applies identically to Xfce and MATE, and all three are just old versions of GNOME. The KDE devs definitely dogfood their own DE, but also clearly none of them have less than 4 GiB VRAM.

        xfce was literally released 2 years before gnome kek

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gnome just werks tho

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Its painfully obvious that the cinnamon des-
    zzzzzzzz mimimimimi zzzzzz

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are there themes for it that don't look like complete shit?
    >People just write cinnamon off because it looks "boring"
    no, I write it off because it's based on gnome 3 so I assume it still has like 90% of the problems gnome 3 has

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/mshDob5.png

      Its painfully obvious that the cinnamon desktop is the only desktop in the linux space that it's own developers actually use. There is nothing missing here and everything works correctly. It does not suffer from silly amounts of crashing that KDE suffers from, and it's software is not gimped like GNOME's. People just write cinnamon off because it looks "boring" because it looks like windows. I am convinced the developers of other desktops like GNOME/KDE/Xfce/MATE etc do not even use their own product and are likely appletards.

      i write it off because it has the highest recorded end to end latency of any DE. yes, I am autistic

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i write it off because it has the highest recorded end to end latency of any DE. yes, I am autistic
        Have a hard source or some numbers brah? Curious.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, that's MATE. And it's not close.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >are there themes for it that don't look like complete shit?
      Yes. You can download a pretty decent selection from the Themes app or whatever pops up first on google.
      >no, I write it off because it's based on gnome 3 so I assume it still has like 90% of the problems gnome 3 has
      What problems were those?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What problems were those?
        csd, performance, needing a million extensions to be functional but constantly breaking compatibility with them, etc, etc

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          have that warning on a cool looking desklet is kinda annoying but word of the day is hardly a need to have feature. What kind of extension are you talking about?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >have that warning on a cool looking desklet is kinda annoying but word of the day is hardly a need to have feature
            uhh what?

            >What kind of extension are you talking about?
            well do you feel the need to use extensions or not?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >uhh what?
            were talking about Cinnamon and the only kind of extension I can think of is desklets and applets, both which dont provide critical functionality. The only exception is a restart DE button applet

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh okay then that's fair enough
            >The only exception is a restart DE button applet
            this is critical functionality? why?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            since the DE used to bug out on my hardware a few months ago and would get fixed by resetting cinnamon. Sometime along the way they fixed it, cant complain about the timing since I didnt make a bug report

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Haven't experienced anything like that on Mint 21.2 or 21.3. Quit assuming and go try it out.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Quit assuming and go try it out
            no

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KDE is better
    >It does not suffer from silly amounts of crashing that KDE suffers from
    "Just trust me bro" criticism is the only criticism KDE seems to get. Cinnamon has crashed for me multiple times while KDE has never.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >is the only desktop in the linux space that it's own developers actually use
    More like it's the only desktop with developers that listen to non-tech savvy users. Most of its changes and updates are "we have made easier for you to do X" and "we created this new tool to make it easier for you to do Y" rather than KDE's "thanks to schizodev1472, the calculator now has a built in terminal separate from the main terminal, and deep integration with github and pornhub" or GNOME's "after asking our inmer circle of devs, we have decided to remove the file manager since its current implementation is subpar".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      truth

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Except that they (KDE) listened to the one guy who asked for that disgusting floating panel abomination

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a default just like single click opens folder was a default, I didn't hear people whining so much about the latter.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      trvke

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm enjoying KDE Plasma now, but yeah, I pretty much agree. I'm thinking about switching back to Cinnamon because it's honestly the only DE that just worked for me. Gnome is missing a lot of stuff that I need, and Plasma is a buggy mess because they keep adding a million new things to it instead of just focusing on making it stable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >KDE's "thanks to schizodev1472, the calculator now has a built in terminal separate from the main terminal, and deep integration with github and pornhub"
      That's peak Linux though

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use xfce
    my workspace is different than yours

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God that looks like ass anon what the frick

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Xfce has exactly too decent looking themes: Zorin OS (pic related) and Linux Mint's. Anything else is visual AIDS.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shame Zorin hasn't figured out how to do basic shit like have a menu on more than 1 screen.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ellipsis on label
          >ugly fonts
          >awkward element spacing
          >blinding white panel background
          >small icons lacking clarity
          >decent
          i have never have been more happy for ditching xfce

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Checking. Also (what/why/how) * (inTheFrick).

        excuse me if your eyes can't handle it.
        it works great for me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Checking. Also (what/why/how) * (inTheFrick).

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BLOAT

    I got my xfce down to 390 MB ram on idle.
    I'm still looking for things I can rip out.
    I. MUST. GO. LOWER.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I got my xfce down to 390 MB ram on idle.
      is that meant to be good?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is when you are on your daily driver and not some virtual machine to show off.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, a browser playing a youtube video alone uses over 1GB of RAM. Combined with just having Steam running that's 1.50GB
        Saving 150MB of RAM is practically insignificant

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i don't play youtube in my browser
          i rarely run steam

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Of course not, it's a meme VM and running Steam alone takes half of your total RAM

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that picture is obviously not my main system

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          moronic logic.

          >I will just bloat my system even more because everything is bloated so why bother.

          I really hope you are not dev and follow the same principles in your daily work.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I got my xfce down to 390 MB ram on idle.
      is that meant to be good?

      you are wasting time for little to no return. the second you open a modern web browser or electron application (everywhere) you are eating just as much ram as everyone else. welcome to the modern desktop world

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >No built in blue light filter
    >Chronic memory leaks
    Literally unuseable

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you're going to use mint then MATE is the best option imo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why is she turning her nose up like that?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's a man

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ok, why is he turning his nose up like that?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Until Wayland on cinnamon supports VRR I don't give 2 fricks

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like Cinnamon + Linux mint, its the only distro/desktop mix I've been able to use for any length of time without wanting to crawl back to Mac/Windows, but "hardcore" Linux users always laugh at it.
    It just werks though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cinnamon has its issues, i wish they just focused alm their resources on Mate instead. Very nice suite of simple applications, Caja > Nemo.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i wish cinnamon/mate/xfce would just come together to make one traditional gtk-based desktop
        i mean they're so similar that it seems like a waste to work on 3 of them
        similar has happened before, like for example lxqt and razorqt were aiming for the same thing, and ended up being folded into just lxqt. those had the advantage of both being fairly new when that happened, however

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You could make a case for XFCE vs Mate due of being different developers with different schedules and goals (Mate for a long time used Compiz as its main WM/Compositor while XFCE always developed its own), but Cinnamon and MATE have a ton of overlapping collaborators so i don't see why they can't just fuse those two together. Cinnanon's compositor and apps feel less evolved than MATE's on many ways. Less features, based straight up in old versions of Gnome3 instead of mostly pure GTK ports.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >i mean they're so similar that it seems like a waste to work on 3 of them
          They have different goals, even if they share devs like in Cinnamon and MATE's case.
          >Xfce is a lightweight modular DE that predates GNOME
          >MATE is a fork of GNOME 2 made tp preserve the old tools and UI
          >Cinnamon is a fork of GNOME made to suit Linux Mint devs' needs

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            of course they aren't identical, but they aren't radically different, either.
            also, xfce predating gnome is true, but requires a bit more context, it was originally a CDE (Common Desktop Environment) clone made with XForms (hence XForms Common Environment), it switched to gtk well after gnome was established

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >People just write cinnamon off because it looks "boring" because it looks like windows.
    It looks like Win10 to be precise which is not exactly great thing. It has nasty boxed start menu and shitty folder icons. Same issue on KDE.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How the frick you're getting any DE to crash, I just couldn't through my years of usage, whether it is XFCE, Cinnamon or KDE???

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same. I've had some minor issues with all the DEs I used, but never did any of them crash on me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i've had gnome3 crash on me when i tried it out
      other than that, nope, never had an issue on gnome2 which i used for years

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I started using mint since 2 days now. Is there a reason why I can't login to twitch using firefox that came preinstalled. it says browser version not supported.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what version is your firefox?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >version 125.0.2 (64 bit)
        >Mozilla firefox for linux mint
        >mint-001 - 1.0

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Check if the date and time in your system are correct. I've had this issue before because I did not choose my timezone during installation.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nope, they're correct.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes, twitch morons dont suport ff

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        works on my windows, so it's not a firefox thing.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's been about five years and I have yet to encounter the krashes everyone talks about.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    desktop environment doesn't matter, everything is fine if it isn't gnome.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    KDE doesnt crash

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm debating on using Mint Cinnamon again, but I need Wayland for my multi monitor setup. So I just use Fedora 40 KDE

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cinnamon supports Wayland in 21.X already.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Semi-related: Linux Mint's devs are planning to fork more GNOME apps because after these apps moved to GTK and libadwaita the GNOME UI became "hardcoded" and incompatible with user themes (pic related, an example LM devs show on their blog).
    https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4675

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Left looks so much better than right it's not even a match.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ok ebussy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Xfce's default theme is ugly, but the point is that apps that use libadwaita can't be themed without doing some hacks like Ubuntu does, fricking over anyone who doesn't use GNOME and Adwaita. Mint devs want to fork the last version of these apps before they moved to libadwaita and GTK4 to maintain the theme support.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking finally they are going to do something about their X-Apps. Too bad that it's likely too late.
      It seemed like a great idea at the time when they first made the suite though.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pretty OS

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    every DE always look like shit no matter what
    not a single one of them has sharp fonts to begin with and there's lack of consistency everywhere, just like on Windows

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and there's lack of consistency everywhere, just like on Windows
      even DOE there isn't

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    XFCE is really stable

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love the Cinnamon desktop so much

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me how to disable vsync and/or the compositor in Cinnamon and I'm back baby. I had to go with XFCE again because Cinnamon felt sluggish, but goddamn the small bugs are annoying me.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One problem: with fractional scaling on X11, window resize is laggy.
    That's why I had to switch to KDE wayland on Arch (because any older distros don't support my nvidia card).
    I'm so close to switching to windows.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fractional scaling is an absolute mess all over
      I wanted to switch to KDE wayland, or GNOME wayland, or whatever wayland, but it turns out Firefox doesn't like it.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wow so CSD really does save vertical space

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not sure why you would even use this dogshit dollar store imitation theme that doesnt even resemble the real thing in any way

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >crashing that KDE
    never have any crash on KDE. Updating to plasma 6 was kinda stupid because it gave me a black screen which looked like it crashed but as it turns out it was plasmashell that shat itself because of old themes. Once that was removed it worked just fine.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >People just write cinnamon off because it looks "boring" because it looks like windows
    No, I write it off because it looks like fricking garbage and feels like shit to use. Imagine dogfooding your desktop and it still comes out as bad as this!

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unity was only good de, everything else in linux is a waste of time

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