Job had everything and lost it but what about the people who suffered without having anything?

What about them? There were many people who suffered and were teased about the thinsg other people had but never got them. Meanwhile Job even got everything he lost restored.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Old Testament just cannot be reconciled with the New, in the Old Testament it's clear that God will reward his followers with material riches and good life if they obey the commandments, which stands in direct contrast to the Kingdom of the Father found in the NT. Marcion was right.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't understand what the conclusion is supposed to be, can you explain it?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The more righteous you become the greater the tests God sends to you because he is refining you so you become holy. Job was literally the most righteous man alive at the time who used to atone and sacrifice for the sins of his children daily just in case they did something that displeased God, so God sent a great test to him for a great refinement if he endured, and he did. He was holier and humbler in the end than in the beginning so God can justify a way greater and more sacred reward and position in the eternal world that is coming.

      God's promise to men includes putting them above the angels. The the angels, who are super holy, and super precious and more innocent than children, will go and kiss their feet and bow down to them. He cannot allow some wicked person to be in that position and demand the angels to serve him, so he is looking for men who allow God to humble them and refine them into righteousness, innocence and holiness through obedience, trials and tribulations.

      He loves his angels very much, they are sacred to him for him to put proud and arrogant people above them to be lord over them.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fundamental premise of the book of job is a criticism of the doctrine that suffering must be punishment for sin. It frequently is, but he believed that it wasn't always the case, which raised serious problems for the relationship between man and god. The bet with Satan is just there to show that Job is utterly righteous. His friends cannot believe he is righteous because otherwise he wouldn't be suffering, and god explicitly says they have insulted him.

    So I think the job poet would say his lessons apply to everyone, not just great men like job.

    As for why he is restored, that I think is unimportant to the book's message other than to reiterate Job's statement in the prologue: the lord has given, the lord has taken, praise be to the lord.

    Even a casual reader cannot escape noticing that the world of the prologue and epilogue seems very different from the rest of the book.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see how that answers my question.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        then restate your question

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >So I think the job poet would say his lessons apply to everyone
          So why did they chose someone who had it all? He had an actual reason to be thankful and faithful.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its to enhance the premise that Job is the righteous sufferer. He was someone who had everything, and then he is brought low for reasons that are unexplained and unexplainable.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, and because he had everything there's a reason to believe. How would these who had nothing have the same faith?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Atheism is not a theme of the book of Job. The book assumes that its reader is a person of faith, and never asks "if god real why bad thing happen." It's much more concerned with the notion of why did god create a broken world, and how can you not curse him for it, which would be very relevant to a person who has nothing.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if god real why bad thing happen
            Nice way to make fun of the suffering of other people. I'm sure you can do it even better!

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're missing the point.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no u

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You refused to engage with my point because I referenced a meme. Show you deserve to be taken seriously and you will be.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Where do you think you're?

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People who suffer with nothing, really don't have anything.... They suffer little. They are accustomed to little, and are resourceful. Are the rich and fat?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You see people dossing on the streets, and it makes you wonder if this is true though.
      Anyhoo - I have yet to walk in such shoes.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Give a spring of water to someone who drinks water daily and he might say thanks. Give a spring of water to someone who suffered extreme thirst daily and they will leap of joy for all eternity.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They suffer little. They are accustomed to little,
      So why don't you become one? Seems like people are willing to do anything to not be in their place.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > So why don't you become one?
        Bag's always packed for when sh*t goes sideways.
        I live with one leg out the door.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The final reward is typological for Heaven.

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