Just a rant

I don’t have anywhere to vent. Isn’t the purpose of internet forum to venting out?

How can anyone like programming ?

It’s incredibly boring and tedious. All you do is write instructions all day and I can barely manage to do it for 1-2 painful hours most. I can’t imagine doing it 8 hours everyday.

At the same time i want to like it cuz remuneration promises a decent life. Especially if ur middle aged and without decent education.

Im stuck in a loop where i can’t drop it because it means coming back to low tier wage jobs and low life prospects. I also unable to do it cuz it’s just to tedious. Don’t see a way out. People say there are a lot of ways to make a decent living but I don’t see them. At least when u don’t have decent college education and i’m too old for one.

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  1. 2 months ago

    I like programming. The only thing I hate about it is dealing with unmotivated uncultured unappreciative uneducated uninspired buttholes who only write programs because they heard you can make good money with it.

    • 2 months ago

      but exactly How can you like writing tedious instructions all day ?

      • 2 months ago

        Sometimes you do and sometimes you don't. Every day doesn't have to be exciting. But once I start programming, I get sort of drawn into it and don't mind.
        If you can find a better job, then go ahead. Part of why many of us do it is that this is the best it gets for us. I've done other jobs in the past, and this is much better.
        Although it can indeed be tedious. When in a rut, I spend time learning new things to get interested in programming again.

      • 2 months ago

        would you rather complete tedioud instructions all day?

    • 2 months ago

      >nooo you have to put up with bullshit that tricles down from the pants of firmware devs...because!
      >and you are at fault for doing so and you ar no passionate blablabla
      what are you passionate for, being a cuck and a scat fetishist? Fricking homosexual.

  2. 2 months ago

    >8 hours everyday
    that's not what you do at a programming job
    you write like 2h at best, rest of it you spend it getting interrupted and in meetings

  3. 2 months ago

    >brainlet with adhd complains programming is boring
    just kys

  4. 2 months ago

    If you're "writing instructions" all day, you're programming wrong.
    Programming is the greatest art form that exists. It affords the kind of beauty that exists in architecture by giving you the freedom of design and logic, while also letting your creation have a "life" of its own. If you have newer experienced the satisfaction of your program doing its job quickly and beautifully, you haven't truly programmed.
    So, OP, find something that you would really like, and give it your all. Maybe, then, will you understand the art of programming.

    • 2 months ago

      Good comment. There is a difference between working in a large corp where you surgically insert small pieces of code into a large codebase, vs working in a smaller company where you get a lot of freedom of what and how you program.

  5. 2 months ago

    I love programming because it's like I'm in the matrix

  6. 2 months ago

    Skill issue.
    You don't have to love what you do and there's a reason why programing pays well, man up and don't be that person who make everyone life's in the company miserable because you don't feel motivated to keep on learning and improving your programing skills.

  7. 2 months ago

    I've tried multiple times to learn how to program but somehow I can never get to where I start thinking in code, I can read code and understand what it's doing, and write basic things, but anything more complex that's actually worth doing and not just some example that has no reason to exist other than being an example I have to look up literally everything step by step, or now chatgpt exists lol. I can write a simple script to accomplish something if I need to, but it's easily the weakest point in my skills. I've had more than friend tell me based on the other stuff I do I should be able to write programs no problem but like OP said there's something so tedious about it

  8. 2 months ago

    some of it is tedious, but it shouldnt be. almost all of that routes from programming tools being shit. i blame grifters for it as they will work with whatever as long as it pays. most systems are way too verbose compared to the entropy they have.
    anyways, what is not tedious is great. if you cant find beauty in it, its simply not for you and is not in the blame for your dead end life

  9. 2 months ago

    >I can barely manage to do it for 1-2 painful hours most.
    That's more than enough if you get a WFH job.

  10. 2 months ago

    it isnt though, do you know what is tedious? sifting through bad and bloated documentation.
    Programming is fun, makes my brain tingle and stuff.

  11. 2 months ago

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  12. 2 months ago

    >Isn't the purpose of internet forum to venting out?
    No. Since your premise was false, I disregarded your post.

  13. 2 months ago

    >All you do is write instructions all day and I can barely manage to do it for 1-2 painful hours most. I can’t imagine doing it 8 hours everyday.

    Sounds like a skill issue.

    And no, it's not about writing instructions all day long, it's about finding repetitions, finding how things are connected to each other and optimizing it so more can be done with less work. If you can see those connections, you can get around with less code. If you can't, you'll have to do more.

    >middle aged and without decent education.
    Decent education is absolutely required for programming. Just not for the coder monkey programming. I mean shit like advanced mathematics and trigonometry for doing 3d calculations or scientific/fiscal formulas. You think Carmack is a good programmer because he can keep at writing instructions for 24 hours a day? No, he is one because he sees advanced trigonometry, matrix multiplications, trajectory calculations, all in his head and can map them down to algorithms easily.

    • 2 months ago

      >advanced education

      you can get everything you need from youtube videos, if you ever need complicated things like a rate of growtch of a line that is not consistent you set more points in the picture

  14. 2 months ago

    solving problems tickles my monkey brain
    hate to be so reductive but it's true, and more than enough for me

  15. 2 months ago

    Programming is like solving a puzzle. It's a fun brain teaser I can sink hours into if the conditions are right. Then again, I only program for fun. I can't say how soul-crushing it would be to do it for some corpo.

  16. 2 months ago

    when i take my vyvanse, my favorite thing to do is program
    but when i'm off, i have zero interest at all to ever write a program for anything ever

  17. 2 months ago

    its just not for you. Find something else to do in your downtime to offset such a misery while finding something else to do for a living.

  18. 2 months ago

    I'm not a dev by trade but I do write programs form time to time. I don't like programming on itself, but producing useful stuff is nice.

  19. 2 months ago

    good. leave and dont come back. you are not only driving down wages for us but also forcing yourself to do something you dont even like doing. nobody wins. become an electrician or something instead

  20. 2 months ago

    >It’s incredibly boring and tedious
    Ah: Bad mindset.
    In any context, whenever you catch yourself thinking "this is tedious", rephrase it to "this is therapeutic".
    Everything boring and tedious feels a lot more comfortable afterwards.

  21. 2 months ago

    Its like how golf is only fun when you get good enough to break 90.

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