>Le Graveyard of empires

>Le Graveyard of empires

Do they actually believe this?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Truth won
    Sodomy lost
    Communism lost

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Sodomy lost

      He doesn't know jfc
      Dont visit on Thursdays

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Taliban supresses Bacha Bazi. It's actually a fairly progressive modernizing movement compared to what came before. And before you ask, yes, this does include attempting to make the country into a pashtun ethnostate.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >implying pashtuns and underaged bussy can ever truly be separated

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        These are the USA’s republican “allies” that are now in a mass grave.
        Same as the people selling opium.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >USA, 2020s
      >Empire
      No.

      >USSR, 1980s
      >Empire
      No.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why the frick is there a mural of george floyd in afghanistan

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What do you think the US Army was there for?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why wouldn't there be? Are you a racist?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Do they actually believe this?
    Yes. When you’re from an underdeveloped, backwards shithole, you need fantastical ideas to cope with your existence, particularly relating to the outside world, to the extent that you’re aware of if, where living standards are objectively better. I have nothing against Afghanistan so it doesn’t come from a place of bias when I call it that. It’s just a shithole. The last time it had any value was under Greek colonization, alongside Uzbekistan’s Fergana Valley.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair the reason it is such a nightmare to effectively occupy and rule is precisely because it is such a massive shithole with minimal infrastructure.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This. "Oh, you can't hold this wasteland where there's no roads, no bridges, and no resources so everything you need has to be imported? Guess it's because we're so good!"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The fact you think the saying is popular or even originates within Afghanistan is telling. You're a clueless anglomoron.

      Your own rat-kin invented the phrase, jake. Lmao

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I had a thought the other day that you could make the same claim about Belgium.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      More like the onahole of empires lol

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well I'm the sense that at least a couple empires went in to Belgium and were never seen again.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          After they plowed through it rawdog and found themselves on the other side in a different country.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Napoleon only made it as far as Waterloo

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Napoleon made it as far as Moscow. The fact he got wrecked, came back again and then got wrecked again by Prussians and Brits in a place that just so happens to be in modern day Belgium has nothing to do with the particular geography or culture unique to Belgium. It could just have easily been a few more miles north, south or east in a different country and the result would have been the same because Napoleon was utterly fricked at this stage of the war. This was like his 50th tour through Belgium.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I know, the whole point is calling someplace the graveyard of empires is arbitrary, since Napoleon's empire happened to end in Belgium, you could call it an empire graveyard. There are a few others besides Napoleon also.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Le Graveyard of Empires is an historical cope made up in 2001 in order to excuse the US failures in Afghanistan as some kind of historical inevitability and not their fault.

    The moment you put any weight upon the theory it completely falls apart. For starters, it skips over 2000 years from Alexander the Great to the British Empire, ignoring that for most of history, Afghanistan was if anything, the crossroads of all empires originating in Indis, Persia and Central Asia such as the Seleucids, Bactrians, Parthians, Sassanids, Abbasids, Ghaznavids, Ghurids, Mongols, Timurids and Mughals. Moreover, neither the British o Macedonian empire fell after invading Aghanistan, nor their falls had anything to do with it, the only empire that ever "fell" after invading the graveyard of empires was the soviet union, and even then, the war was a more of a sympthom than a direct cause of the decline of the soviets

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's more a graveyard of Empire. You have to actually keep the native people in mind and rule with their mandate, otherwise the whole venture collapses. Foreign impositions have to keep the Pashtun in mind.

      Of course, it cuts both ways. The Taliban were close to losing power circa 2001 because they're great when they're fighting as heroes for equality under the law and resistance against foreign oppression and exploitation, but inferior rulers when they're going around blasting Tajiks. The only people who ever managed to unite all the disparate groups of Afghanistan were the Barakzais, and a restoration of them is and always has been the most viable solution to its woes.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I mean look at the US now

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd argue it's more the high water mark of empires. Like, when empires are at their strongest, they will be able to penetrate deep into regions otherwise inaccessible to nations without the ability to project immense amounts of power. But it is a strenuous thing to reach so far, and no moment of strength is anything but momentary. The tide goes back out, after a time.

    It's like a 'test your strength' booth at a county fair.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why yes, we do live in an uninhabitable mountainous shithole and are proud of that fact.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They really believe it. Afghans who grew up in the west believe it even more, just like they take pride in the defeat of the NATO occupation that they had no part in, despite it taking place during their military years in their ancestral homeland. Better to brawl with nogs and cops in Sweden while collecting welfare and talking all day about being a warrior.

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