Let me guess. Watercooling is a meme. Watercooling is too risky. Watercooling is too expensive

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Watercooling is too risky
Watercooling is too expensive

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's not really my preference that's all

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes
    Yes
    Yes
    Shan't be watercooling my laptop.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It just seems silly to me
    heat up this water then use fans to blow it off, or heat up this metal then use fans to blow it off. well I choose metal because it's more thermally conducive than water.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The "water" acts as a huge heat sink, quickly pumping heat away. It can absorb a lot more heat than the typical copper/aluminium block that is used.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People can't into thermodynamic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_heat_capacity

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not really, but water cooling with hard tubing is a huge pain in the ass for PC maintenance / upgrades since it requires draining, disassembly, reassembly, filling and bleeding the loop to get at components. It's kind of off its peak too, back in the day you could use a water loop to get like 50% higher CPU clock through OC, nowadays CPUs are pushed nearly balls to the wall at stock and the top of the line water cooling will get you like 5% extra clock compared to a good cooler that works out of the box and with no extra involvement.

      Smartest moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >water cooling will get you like 5% extra clock
        Sustained or just short term?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Depends but you're likely to find more success with increasing sustained clocks and under high parallel load, since the CPU in that case is running at fairly low clock with the heat distributed across the entire chip and thus easier to cool (larger surface). With high single-thread clocks the problems are that you're reaching the limits of the silicon at room temperature and proper cooling depends less on the cooler being super good since it's bottlenecked by the fact that a lot of heat is coming from a physically small part of the CPU, the surface area through which it is transmitted is small.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My i7 3930k SR0KY is on 4.7GHz watercooled on all cores since 2013.
          So it depends on your definition of short.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Who says you have to do hard tubing?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Firstly it was the only way to do it for a while.
          Secondly it looks cooler.
          Thirdly you don't have to but those loops with flexible cables don't have nearly as much water, you might not get better performance than just with a normal cooler.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Firstly it was the only way to do it for a while.
            Hard tubing is a recent thing in the grand scheme
            >Secondly it looks cooler.
            Subjective
            >don't have nearly as much water
            You can have as much water as you want with any tubing
            Water capacity only really affects how long it takes to heat soak and reach equilibrium anyway.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Talking about OP's picture, obviously.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The "water" acts as a huge heat sink, quickly pumping heat away. It can absorb a lot more heat than the typical copper/aluminium block that is used.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_heat_capacity

      /thread

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >More than 4x the amount of "heat" required per gram of material to increase waters temperature by one degree than aluminium, over 10x for copper
        Water is clearly the superior option as long as it's designed to have adequate flow, mass, and cooling where it is cooled.
        Unfortunately all of that adds significant expense.
        Those short flexible loops might actually be superior than aluminium block coolers given this.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw no Coal/Boron heatsink

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Coal heatsink?
          "Thermal conductivity" is a measure of how quickly "heat" is able to transfer through a particular material. In the case of coal and many others it is fairly low. Copper has very high thermal conductivity, higher than aluminium or water, but pumping water around will more than compensate for it's failing here.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How is that shit relevant? You aren't using your loop as a reservoir to dump the heat into. You're using it to transfer the heat to the exchanger. Rate of heat flow in that exchanger is what matters.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You're using it to transfer the heat to the exchanger.
          moron believes "hot water" goes to the radiator and magically becomes "cold water" until it hits the hot components again.
          This board is truly the lowest IQ of them all.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            believes "hot water" goes to the radiator and magically becomes "cold water" until it hits the hot components again.
            WHAT
            YOU MEAN IT'S NOT

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It has a few usecases but is mostly a meme

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I like using fans to blow the heated air away from my GPU, directly onto my CPU
      If you can't realize that watercooling mainly exists to channel the heat to a single point to let the heat go into ambient air away from any other components, then you're basically too fricking stupid to use this website.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >If you can't realize that watercooling mainly exists to channel the heat to a single point to let the heat go into ambient air away from any other components, then you're basically too fricking stupid to use this website.

        I have all my rads set up with intake fans pulling air from the outside into the case. Can you guess why?

        The air coming off those rads is cooling ~40C warm water, instead of cooling a 70C hot piece of metal like a regular CPU heatsink. I have discarded ALL my case fans and run nothing but radiators taking air in, no exhaust. Positive pressure moves all warm air out the back of the case anyway.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    watercooling is fine if you want to fit a 4090 into mini itx or something like that
    otherwise it's snake oil for audiophile alikes

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoyed building my loop
    Does anything more matter?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's right.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    fully passively cooled pc > fully watercooled pc > fully aircooled pc

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's unnecessary.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >it's called water cooling
    >the process actually heats up the water

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair it also cools the water.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The "coolant" in a car engine is 95°C while under load.
      If you don't understand why it's still called "coolant" and "watercooling", then this board is probably not for you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >"cool"ant
        >is hot
        I will not fall for your scams

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    soulless shit. everything sterile in place. no room to evolve. have to become a plumber each time I change a component. air cooling only needs a casual dedust and I'm A-OK.
    Watercooling was invented by shills to waste money. In the end the water just transports the heat to a bigger air cooler anyways. it's beyond moronic. In can just slap a 1500grams air cooler on any workstation grade CPU and call it a fricking day and chill, literally.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's fun, I don't consider it that risky considering how much distilled water I've mopped up, but yeah it is expensive.

      Just get some quick disconnects, soft tubing, a leak tester and maybe a leakshield for fun, then you just need to plan ahead a bit on how high everything needs to be relatively and where you want to put a drain port.
      I've done a lot of fricking around with the awful soft tubing runs I put into my case and I plan to frick around more by putting a few PCs into a parallel configuration with an external radiator in the future.
      I consider it a bit easier to just slap a flat block on my CPU, rather than needing to deal with clearance issues when I want to get at my RAM or whatever, and maybe I'd like a future GPU upgrade to take up fewer than 4 PCIe slots.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >and maybe I'd like a future GPU upgrade to take up fewer than 4 PCIe slots
        This is honestly the biggest motivation
        Even GPUs that have absolutely no reason to go over 2 slots for some reason decide to take just that little bit more and essentially make them 3 slots
        If I'm gonna have a threadripper or just any other non desktop socket board, I'm gonna want all my pcie slots

        My first go around with a loop wasn't the best tho in terms of planning but it's super easy to drain

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, even just on some basic boards I might want actual space to put in a 10G NIC and maybe an HBA if all the PCIe lanes aren't being used up.
          Potentially being able to watercool those as well rather than using zip ties to attach a fan, since I don't have nearly the fan power that server components demand otherwise, would be nice.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >"Hey look at me, I have fancy pipes!"
    gitgud

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >watercooling is a meme
    When you only do the CPU, yeah.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My AIO is 6 years old and works perfectly fine.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I replaced my (very good) Noctua air cooler with an AIO for my 12900K and gained significant CPU performance. Some hardware genuinely benefits from water cooling.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Define "significant"

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes
    Yes
    Yes
    I now have 500€ of wc parts sitting unused, because I went back to air after I had to troubleshoot a dead motherboard, spent more time flushing and disassembling the whole loop than diagnosing and replacing the MB. Plus, only the GPU had a real temperature decrease under water. My CPU sits within spitting distance of the loop with a Phantom Spirit 120 on top of it.
    Not going back to water as long as I remember this experience, way too much risk, money, and hassle for little benefit.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Watercooling is just too much of a PITA over air cooling. Would much prefer blowing dust off my heatsink than flush my water cooling loops.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no but water coo ling is gay.

    is not cool

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Won't be scammed
    Radiators heat water not cool it down
    It's called waterheating

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      radiators radiate heat you gobshite

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    as someone who loves to disassemble his pc a lot I don't see myself getting liquid cooling

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >someone who loves to disassemble his pc a lot
      How often? Why/what do you do?

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    watercooling was so fricking noisy in my experience. Never again

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wtf are you talking about
      a modern pump is quieter than a few fans and you if you have a properly sized radiator you never need to run good fans beyond a whisper
      I keep an unlocked 3090 at ~65c under full load without having any fan ramp
      stock it would sit at 80c with fans at 100% and the back side mem chips at 95c

      water cooling is entirely worth it if you want top tier performance with zero fan ramp and you have some disposable income/time

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        his experience is most likely with very old stuff which was loud and awful

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    aircooling is plenty for almost any purpose

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah sounds correct

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1 component like pictured? that's stupid, get an AIO.
    multiple components can be good with a custom loop, I have 2 GPUs and a CPU in one, and it's the quietest system I've ever built.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >that's stupid, get an AIO
      AIOs really suck tho
      For some reason they all have really thin aluminum radiators

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        weight

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