>lets wrap up the comfy wizard kino series with grimdark wandering around the woods

>lets wrap up the comfy wizard kino series with grimdark wandering around the woods

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She thought that the core audience has grow up a little and was ready for something more dark.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And she was correct as it was the best one. I swear when Hermione and Harry are lost in the wilderness and ponder if they shouldn't just stay and frick the world... good stuff.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it was the best one.
        That would be book 4

        Books:
        4 > 3 > 1 > Rest of them

        Movies:
        6 >>>>> 3 > Rest of them

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Movies:
          >6 >>>>> 3 > Rest of them
          crazy. 2 >1 > 3 rest of them. Chris Columbus got the vibe right.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I was going to say that as well, 1 and 2 are comfy and the only ones that get the vibe right.
            I like 3 too but it's a more unique adaption that strays from the books, and I hate how all the movies subsequently took style elements from it but without much meaning or soul to it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Book 4 the best? Absurdly bizarre take.

          6 > 3 > 7

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            6 is easily the worst though lmao

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >best pacing
            >kino Voldemort backstory
            >felix felicis subplot
            >Malfoy murder subplot
            >horcrux quest
            >horror climax
            >Gandalf gets deleted
            >Harry's confrontation with Snape
            >awesome buildup to the hopeless quest for the horcruxes
            How can you be this wrong, anon?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Malfoy subplot is plain annoying because Harry keeps telling Ron and Hermione his suspicious and they're always extremely disbelieving about it and blunt with him, even when it becomes irrefutable that he's up to something their attitude becomes "yeah meh I suppose you're right" and they do nothing.
            Ron and Hermione are also completely flanderised by this point: Ron is useless, annoying and an arsehole to everyone, Hermione is ridiculously good at everything, even giving perfect advice and understanding on le girl troubles (itself another horrendous part of the the sixth book) without her old restraint of being an annoying know-it-all.
            Also I usually wouldn't complain about some of the dumb worldbuilding stuff because Rowling generally just added stuff piecemeal throughout the series to serve the immediate plot needs, which I usually don't mind, but the existence of an Unbreakable Vow is just plain moronic and the way Potions class becomes "If you can follow the right instructions you'll do perfectly" is a bit of a dim view, before that you'd assume there was actually intellect behind it.
            The Snape confrontation is also pretty cringe because it's pretty obvious Dumbledore is already dying from his hand and because we still don't know at that part in the story why it is Dumbledore trusted him.
            Admittedly it does have good parts, the Voldemort backstory is great, the part describing Harry taking Felix is pretty humorous, and the Horcrux in the lake partis great too, it's just weighed down by some utter crap. I still like it overall for those good parts, it's just the worst book of the series on balance.
            In general I think Rowling just got tired of the schoolboy novel formula by that point, when she describes the Quidditch matches they feel very laboured, and almost like she just did them because she felt she had to, she even comes up with another excuse for Harry to not participate in the final match.
            Book six just feels like it's there to set up book seven, it's also a great ending because we see the complex magical understanding Dumbledore needed to break past the cave's barriers to get to the Horcrux and know that Harry isn't capable of that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Meant to reply to

            >best pacing
            >kino Voldemort backstory
            >felix felicis subplot
            >Malfoy murder subplot
            >horcrux quest
            >horror climax
            >Gandalf gets deleted
            >Harry's confrontation with Snape
            >awesome buildup to the hopeless quest for the horcruxes
            How can you be this wrong, anon?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, you agree with me on the strongest parts of that book so there's that. Funny enough, I didn't mention Ron and Hermione in terms of the strength of this book exactly because of what you described.

            Hard disagree on the Snape confrontation, tho. That whole convo between them takes a whole different meaning when you see Snape's memories in Deathly Hallows

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >That whole convo between them takes a whole different meaning when you see Snape's memories in Deathly Hallows
            You mean when Harry starts calling him a coward and Snape gets butthurt? Yeah actually that is a good scene.
            I guess I'm just focusing on the bad, but it is true it takes up a lot of the book, and like I said I'm sure Rowling was sick of it too by that point because whenever, say, Harry steps into Dumbledore's office it's like the writing changes and it becomes interesting, and when he's back writing an essay for something it's all pained again. It's also weird how she barely describes Snape's DADA classes when the book is supposed to feature him to a large degree.
            I also barely get the point of the whole Half-Blood Prince book and its """mystery""" like what is the point of all of it? I think it's meant to show how Harry could have actually been friends with someone like Snape deep down because he keeps describing the book as like a friend, but then we end the book with him hating Snape again and feeling like he got duped by him so it doesn't really go anywhere.
            I guess you could say it gets resolved in the last book where Harry finds out Snape is actually le brave but then nothing about the "Half-Blood Prince" gets mentioned again in the seventh book so I don't think it really does.
            It could have been interesting if they ended up taking the Half-Blood Prince book with them in book seven out of necessity and with Harry hating how he has to rely on Snape and then finding out he's actually been helping out behind the scenes all this time.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You mean when Harry starts calling him a coward and Snape gets butthurt?
            Exactly that one.
            >Snape's DADA classes when the book is supposed to feature him to a large degree.
            I actually did notice that on my last read through, found it odd.
            >I also barely get the point of the whole Half-Blood Prince book and its """mystery""" like what is the point of all of it?
            I also found this weird, even the first time I read. Never understood why that was the "main" storyline in the book rather than the Voldy shit, despite it obviously being the most important thing.
            So yeah, don't necessarily agree with all your criticisms. Despite all that, I definitely think it's the best paced of all the books. My close contender to first place is PoA, however. It's always been a favorite of mine ever since I read it as a kid.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Never understood why that was the "main" storyline in the book rather than the Voldy shit
            That's the weird thing about book six, it doesn't really have a single mystery tying it all together. Of course the Voldemort backstory is great but it's not really a central mystery, I think it's actually meant to be the Malfoy stuff which is crap because we already know he's up to something from the early scene where Snape tells Narcissa he'll help Draco, and again like I said Ron and Hermione are weirdly rude and keep rolling their eyes at Harry whenever he brings it up (iirc there's a scene that literally describes Ron rolling his eyes).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >My close contender to first place is PoA, however. It's always been a favorite of mine ever since I read it as a kid.
            Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily call it my favourite but it is supremely comfy, I think it's because Lupin is so good and Rowling really portrays that kind of teacher that, when you're a kid, everyone loves really well. And something about Harry being able to reconnect with his father's friends and living up to their image of him.
            It's also quite a unique one in the series because it's the only one where Voldemort isn't prominent in the story, it's quite refreshing after the first two books to get off Voldemort for a while.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I was going to say that as well, 1 and 2 are comfy and the only ones that get the vibe right.
          I like 3 too but it's a more unique adaption that strays from the books, and I hate how all the movies subsequently took style elements from it but without much meaning or soul to it.

          What's the movie where Voldemort asks his followers to give him a wand and Luci? All those dark reunions were kino. Frick it I looked it up instead but won't delete my reply lol

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I love book 4 too but to put it above what comes after is nonsense

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >best pacing
          >kino Voldemort backstory
          >felix felicis subplot
          >Malfoy murder subplot
          >horcrux quest
          >horror climax
          >Gandalf gets deleted
          >Harry's confrontation with Snape
          >awesome buildup to the hopeless quest for the horcruxes
          How can you be this wrong, anon?

          Forgive me, but I believe Harry Potter worked best as a mystery series that inspired childlike wonderment; best represented in the first three books and the first two movies. At the point where it started to "grow" with its audience, it lost its appeal. For me.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Harry Potter is a hard-core tome about spiritual alchemy through a confrontation with the inward darkness anon
            Childhood is the beginning of the book just like its the beginning of life
            Do you remain in childhood just because it's comfortable? Or do you grow

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When I grow, I read real literature; I hold the first three books of this series as dear parts of my past to be revisited sometimes.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What makes Harry Potter "unreal literature?"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fair enough. I disagree, tho. I think J.K. did a good job of turning that child-like wonder into adult bleakness. Not saying that in an overtly negative way, just that I thought it was pretty neat, considering the characters weren't 12 anymore

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Forgive me, but I believe Harry Potter worked best as a mystery series that inspired childlike wonderment;
            This sounds like the kind of superficial take generated from an AI prompt.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I understand but even taking that into consideration its not like the first 3 are significantly better than the rest of the series, so your comment doesn't hold that much weight.

        • 4 weeks ago
          /wg/

          Hard agree for movies. However for books it's

          6>>>>>>>3>>4>>>>>rest of them

          Half-Blood Prince is genuinely a very good fantasy book as is Azkaban. Honestly it's because Voldemort isn't in either of them (he is in HBP but as an actual human, so a bit of nuance.)

          HP would be so much cooler if it was just a wizard school drama instead of a big fantasy thing. Having Harry get the scar and then Voldemort dying as a result would be good enough and then the rest of the series could be him coping with this, which he already does.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Books:
          All shit tbqhwy
          >Movies:
          3 (carried by Cuaron) > 1 > 2 >>>>>>>> 4 > 6 > 7 > 5

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Correct ranking of movies, finally

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Correct ranking of movies, finally

            Nah 4 is the absolute worst movie, should be at the end
            They're all utter shit beyond the first three though anyway, 5-8 are an indistinguishable mess of crap

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't 4 the one with the olympic games in Hogwarts? That was fun. 5 was boring. I don't even remember anything. Something about eh... a well full of thoughts?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah the 4 was about the games. The last fun Harry Potter movie. Not as good as the first three though. The part with the dragon was kino
            >I don't even remember anything
            I only remember the b***h headmaster

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            4 is crap when you've read the books, they absolutely gut the story and it basically makes no sense by the end if you watch the movie alone.
            The well of thoughts is in 4 too.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >5-8 are an indistinguishable mess of crap
            I like 6 so much because of the aesthetic

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's the same director as the shit ones

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I swear when Hermione and Harry are lost in the wilderness and ponder if they shouldn't just stay and frick the world...
        What? I don't remember anything like that, it's more that they don't have a clue what to do so they keep doing nothing.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The camping stuff is comfy, I think this might actually be the best book too.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >lets wrap up a comfy sexual abuse public school novel with a multiple novel grimdark ironic anti-imperialist pornography about cricket.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This sounds based

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Flashman pretty much invented the British historical-fiction adventure novel that gave us Sharpe and Hornblower and Aubrey/Maturin.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm just reading about him on wikipedia, it sounds like a laugh

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The spark of the light comes through the dark of the night

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this series trying to deal with bigger themes (le evil ministry of bureaucracy) was dumb and hokey because it's not that deep anyway. They're fricking wizards.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not about bureacracy, and it touches on the biggest theme of all.
      Harry is caught between two internal extremes. His parents were people of great positive potentiality, and this is the only reason he survived Voldemorts murder of them both and attempted murder of him. But the experience left him permanently scarred, touched by darkness, the scar is the birthmark of the Voldemort inside of him. Throughout the series, Harry breaks rules and causes mischief, and does worse than that, too. He's selfish and borderline heartless at times, but never drifts entirely into evil.
      He's a parseltongue, so is Voldemort. He has an innate ability to speak in the language of the snake.
      There are plenty of characters in the book who are more good, more pure at heart than Harry is, and who follow principles better. None of them can stop voldemort, or recognize him, or even see him for what he is, like when he's posing as the dark arts teacher. Harry can do both.
      The reason is because he has the same darkness inside of him, that darkness is the only thing that gives him the ability to choose the light. It's the only reason he can defeat voldemort where others who might be more good and innocent by comparison cannot.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Something about describing books as "kino" is just wrong to me. Kino is for video-based media only.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >grimdark
    This word needs to sent to a farm upstate.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Grim Bright, like the Soviet Union, is so much nicer.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And it's honestly one of the better parts of the whole series
    The movies did these parts okay but they kind of flubbed the parts in Hogwarts if you ask me

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >grown-ass men discussing Harry Potter

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >adult
      >using ass constructions
      Gross.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They think they are women.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am trans and I love Harry Potter

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think Order of the Phoenix is the best book, I've always loved the chapter right after Fred and George fly away and the way it describes the school entering an open rebellion against Umbridge, it's utter kino.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    3=6>4>>5>1=2>7
    I used to hate 5 as someone who had only watched the films but damn, the book is way better than the film
    Also 4 is way better in the book

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was filtered by people's fascination with this dreck, and I'm good with it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I was filtered by people's fascination with this dreck
      Same, something about how overhyped it was that just turned me off of it. Did eventually read one of those books and it felt like it was meant for kids younger than what I originally assumed. I read Groosham Grange recently, that one I can imagine eight or nine year old me really liking, unlike Harry Potter.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's only 303 pages total, how are you supposed to get escapist fantasy from that?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >how are you supposed to get escapist fantasy from that?
          Yeah, wish it was longer, a whole franchise like Anthony wanted at some point. Anyhow, a book doesn't need to be 800 pages long to be enjoyable, there are book series like that that I do enjoy but shorter reads are also welcome.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Books in general kind of fell apart the moment they tried to be dark. You can't really build a serious fantasy story on a child wish fullfiment tale. It's like if somebody tried to make Spongebob into a young adult novel.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The entire book needs to be rewritten so that Harry bangs Hermione in the woods and they become a couple

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