life changing books

Lets try this again. Which books have had the greatest effect on your life? Come on, give me something anon.

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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Probably the "Discourses of Epictetus". I'm not even a follower of Stoicism, but it is an amazing book.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll second this, but for Enchiridion. I don't profess to be a Stoic either, but reading the Enchiridion as a highly emotionally volatile late-teen/early-20s man produce a very palpable calming effect on me which I still vividly remember.
      Reading Herodotus' Histories also really cracked my brain open on understanding and empathizing with ancient peoples and grounded the foundational works of philosophy, politics, ethics, etc. in a much more real and contextual setting, because these were no longer out-dated cavemen but very evidently intelligent and aware human beings for me. I imagine a similar effect to what people describe about their experiences reading Don Quixote, a sort of terrible (in the classic sense) realization of the modernity of the author.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    how many times you gonna make this thread homosexual? you got good suggestions already
    musashi would call you a fricking homosexual for continually reposting this moronic shit
    desperate for dopamine because no b***hes?

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anatomy of the State.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frédéric Bastiat - The Law

      Second

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Which books have had the greatest effect on your life?
    The Very Hungry Caterpillar.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Holy Bible

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    i don't think it's possible for books to change your life directly. what they can do is reveal things about yourself you did not already know, & help you understand your place in the world.

    my favorite book as a teen was hamlet, then I discovered houellebecq and schopenhauer and they became my favorites. i'm a depressive bastard so these books helped me come to terms with the fact i just see the world this way and that's how it is

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe that not how things are but just how you see them. Your clouded by delusions or don’t have the whole picture if you depressed brother

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >all literature is a mirror for my own experience
      what a solipsistic, narcissistic little shithole of a world you live in

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        why so angry?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why so defensive?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not the same anon. You seem to be the defensive one here if anything.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can still be defensive of someone else or on another's behalf, anon.
            >n-n-no ur the one who's d-defensive
            c'mon lad you got to do better than that

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            It seems like depression makes you unreasonably angry and I assume you have a history of it or a history with someone who had it and have no interest in dialogue lol. Have fun seething, homosexual.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >psychoanalyzing strangers on the internet

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what they can do is reveal things about yourself you did not already know
      If it actually did this then you would be able to explain it directly without using parables and stories.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Parables and fables are amazing, have you ever read Aesop? In terms of communicating wisdom, they are unmatched.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nonsense

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    People have already said Epictetus and I will second their praises. I would personally recommend Zorba The Greek for the wordcel crowd here and The Tarter Steppe both of these books changed the way I look at the world profoundly. Also if you absorb any good intro to Zen Buddhism book your life will be much richer.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >zorba the greek
      >dancing boomer gets guy a wife and shows him how to dance

      It was fun when I read it but now I am bored. It seems like there's no grand reveletory book that provides any new information, just vague stories that try to give you emotion based on the characters and their lives, and with that you are supposed to think about your own life differently. There are no facts to be learned. I have become bored of books.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        “Just dance” can solve 90% of guys’ problems, or at least the type here

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          From reading Steppenwolf I am beginning to believe this is true. Turning your brain off and becoming a socialized hypernormie probably alleviates most of the modern man's ills. How could it not, considering our way of life was designed around the liberation of our ego?
          But anyways I cannot bring myself to dance, so I will spend my time looking for a better way to live so that in the future I and my children can dance genuinely and not as a coping mechanism.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I wouldn’t say it has anything to do with being a normie, but more living in the moment, living spontaneously, having fun, letting loose, and not caring. Dancing is unironically the antidote to many guys’ problems

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >living in the moment, living spontaneously, having fun, letting loose, and not caring
            These are normie traits. Or rather, normies are able to do this continuously without concerted effort, and consider interruptions of this state to be something like death. We (the disaffected on this board), meanwhile consider entering into the participatory state to be like death and live outside of it most of the time.
            Not that the normie state is inherently inferior, but our world is designed to engender and supplicate the normie state to the benefit of a select few who live both outside of and above it. So it seems cuckoldish for those who live outside it and below the select to enter into the normie state, even temporarily, even if it would balance our humours.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Many normie men don’t dance though. Every man has his own issues and own insecurities. Making this a whole us vs them thing does nothing. A man’s blooming is totally dependent on himself and not society

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Participatory rituals exist aside from dancing, anon. Unless you think there is something uniquely transcendental about dancing - and maybe there is, but I have no knowledge of it and reason to be skeptical.
            Either way there is a definite us vs them reality playing itself out in the world, though it's not anything as simple as the Disaffected vs the Socialized.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dancing and sex are literally the most mystical transcendental experiences you can have. I don’t deny the world has gotten more tribal but what I do deny is taking part in that tribalism is beneficial. A man must be his own and grow through himself. I used to look on people with disgust but I learned that is no way to go through life and will achieve nothing. See a group of individuals instead of a collective. As Rousseau said, men are evil but man is good. Your perception and outlook is what defines you. The world is a better place when you realize every man is just like you in generalities. All have their own fears, dreams, insecurities, virtues, vices, etc. Have compassion and understanding and connections with others will be made a lot easier

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The world is a better place when you realize every man is just like you in generalities
            Anon, that's pure projection. It's a projection that held up in (virtually) all past time periods, but it is still at best a heuristic device for navigating the world. It isn't objectively or even narratively true, by which I mean your brain doesn't even operate that way unconsciously.
            Also you've drifted from discussing the topic to trying to play psychologist for a stranger on the internet, which is both misplaced and telling of your opinion of yourself.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not what I was doing at all but do things your way. I’m just saying what helped me. I have no desire to argue so do and think what you want

            Sex can be quite mystical in the right moments. It’s one of the closets ways to enter a whole other state of being.

            You need to be incredibly horny and also have your personal fetish/link catered for and the rush is unlike anything else.

            I am not sure why this guy puts dancing on the same level, maybe he’s black.

            Look at the purpose of dancing in ancient cultures and when it took place

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Dancing and sex are literally the most mystical transcendental experiences you can have.
            This is not remotely my experience with either of these things, and I'm deeply confused by people who say otherwise.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sex can be quite mystical in the right moments. It’s one of the closets ways to enter a whole other state of being.

            You need to be incredibly horny and also have your personal fetish/link catered for and the rush is unlike anything else.

            I am not sure why this guy puts dancing on the same level, maybe he’s black.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It’s one of the closets ways to enter a hole*
            ABSOLUTELY Freudian

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Filtered you completely missed the point of the book please try to read it again.

        Is it worth reading if I’ve already seen the movie?
        Is it often still worth reading books if you already saw the movies they were based on?

        The movie is good but the actual story of Zorba the Greek is not really what makes the book so good. Give it a chance but if you want you can read his Saint Francis which is actually more powerful.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Psood

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it worth reading if I’ve already seen the movie?
      Is it often still worth reading books if you already saw the movies they were based on?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seconding the Tartar Steppe, amazing, amazing book

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dao De Jing

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I read pathways to bliss while tripping and now i can see 10 seconds into the future

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That would be early onset dementia my friend

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fusus al Hikam of Ibn Arabi. Makes Spinoza look like a simpleton.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tell me more.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >most of his legendary duels (like with Shishido Baiken or the spear monks) are likely made up.
    >refused to bathe and smelled so bad that clans refused to hire him
    >instead of finishing off Kojiro himself after incapacitating him, he ordered his disciples to do it, mocking Kojiro in death.
    the 'zen warrior' portrayal of Musashi in modern media is pretty much completely fictional

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does modern media really portray him as some zen master, though? I've always known of Musashi primarily as a batshit fighter who won all his duels, fictional or no, by breaking every rule of Samurai etiquette and just stabbing motherfrickers with swords in both hands.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Enchiridion by Epictetus. It is only a dozen pages long, about 50 paragraphs.

    Meditations by Aurelius is shit. Don’t fall for the meme.

    Another life changing book is picrel (unironically), but it is not life-changing in any practical way

    I know you asked for a book, but a practice that will help immensely outside of reading is meditation. Meditation is NOT sitting and thinking about deep shit, it is simply letting all thoughts and sensations pass freely and focusing on what remains, which is your empty self-less thoughtless consciousness. This will help with understand Kant

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I know you asked for a book, but a practice that will help immensely outside of reading is meditation

      People say this all the time, but for me, it has felt like a waste of time.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That is understandable if you are just doing it vaguely and don’t get what the point is. Meditation is practicing a skill that you will need to use everyday. If you want me to explain more I can

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Please explain. I am alone with me thoughts constantly. The goal is to suppress all thoughts and can I do it laying down?

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Christopher Lasch Culture of Narcissism and The Minimal Self
    Changed the way I saw media, education, bureaucracy,culture and irony.Plus it helped put into words social changes I partially intuited and or saw.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    cosmic trigger

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to change your life, be racist in public. Frick off about books unless you read something, I'm not reading for you, b***h.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Read what?

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically Reverend Insanity. I abandoned everything I held to high standards after reading it: my morality, my principles, my faith in god, bond with my family and friends, “loving” my girlfriend. I stopped caring about all of it. focused purely on myself and my own progress. I went from a depressed loser with 3/10 gf that lived with his parents to a chad with a very lucrative and prestigious government job, my own house in the suburbs and 8/10 hot gf who I cheat on with constantly because i simply don’t care. I know moralgays and christeens are going to screech but this is truly how a man is supposed to live, without any moral restraint, every action done to directly benefit himself and no one else.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    "It is the sequence" and "2020" by Paul Town

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also Ecclesiastes.

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anons, maybe you can help me out with this, but I feel like we have all been trained to think there is a critical moment of revelation in our lives by modern media. I understand that if you were broken up with or got fired, there is a real actual consequence to the event and that change can occur from it, but I'm questioning the validity to a book being able to change someone in a dramatic and specific way as the OP's question posits. I've read many books, watched many lectures, conversed with experts in my field, but I feel as if I am still a creature of habit. That the actual substantive change takes place over months and is a gradual and occasional shift in perspective or turning a recollection of a thing into action. Like, even in the best case scenario, a book with deep insight is only planting seeds for the subconscious to eventually process, right? It's not like those guys who do drugs and suddenly can feel empathy for the first time in their life. It's not like reading some well put together self help book is going to do anything more than maybe spark some temporary motivation. Can words on a page completely rewire the brain? Can a particular string of characters evoke such effects as to shift a person from who they were to someone completely different?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I feel as if I am still a creature of habit
      Watch this, and if you like it, get his book on Gurdjieff (The War Against Sleep):

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like British lectures. Comfy to fall asleep to. Thank you.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      When I think of any meaningful memory I had, I remember a particular moment or maybe an hour or maybe a few. What happens over many months or years is also important and maybe more important. Books are like this too, except you are experiencing it passively. If you remember the important parts, a book can be just as impactful.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      All moments of revelation are culminations of long periods of chewing on things (either consciously or unconsciously, usually a combo of the two) but not all culminations of long periods of chewing on things are moments of revelation. Sometimes you just gradually change. I feel you on that anon. But usually you can pinpoint moments in those long periods that were key in the operation of changing and sometimes those moments are key because of the boom you were reading.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        *boom should be book. Obviously.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Capitalist Realism

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is Musashi STOIC?
    I have not study neither of them, but from what I have heard, the ideas sound kinda same to me.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think Musashi espoused amor fati which is also found in stoicism but not mutually exclusive to it.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        bump

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The main variables are the person, their mindset, the book, the timing of reading the book. You need the right combination to find “a life changing book”. A book may do nothing for you at one point in your life but you may find it profound when things are different. Keep reading and you’ll get some hits. Keep in mind no book is actually life changing. You still have to do the work or condition yourself by pounding certain content home. Books are like seeds. Reading may plant them but you still have to water them

    This is what I posted last time

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

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    No you're cringe

    I wouldn’t say it has anything to do with being a normie, but more living in the moment, living spontaneously, having fun, letting loose, and not caring. Dancing is unironically the antidote to many guys’ problems

    This guy

    If you want to change your life, be racist in public. Frick off about books unless you read something, I'm not reading for you, b***h.

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