Literally every single argument against mormonism is just "I think my misunderstanding of the origins are kinda weird"

Literally every single argument against mormonism is just "I think my misunderstanding of the origins are kinda weird"

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Literally every single argument
    Try not to be so hamfisted in your shill thread next time.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/18?lang=eng

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Spent about half of my life in Utah. Here are my gripes.
    Joseph Smith was almost certainly a conman.
    >went around with two metal instruments (iirc) saying he could detect buried treasure
    >people paid him to find the treasure on their properties
    >said the treasure had a curse and would disappear before being excavated
    Their church rakes in so much fricking money in tithings. 10% of each member's annual income is the expectation. Not everyone is required to pay it if they can't afford it, but it's no wonder the Mormon church is a multi-billion dollar enterprise nonetheless.
    Baptisms for the dead are straight up disrespectful as hell. There was a huge controversy when they tried to baptize Ann Frank. Didn't like them trying to do it when my father died either.
    Believing they can become gods and manage their own planets if they earn enough good boy points is pretty extreme. Not any stranger than other religious mysticism, I suppose. But it still sets a standard for arrogance that most people are pretty unfamiliar with.
    >Mormon culture
    It's incredibly frustrating and cringey how many Mormons are obsessed with Disney movies. I only hope it's died down since the conservative controversies with the company. Everyone I went to school with related anything they possibly could to a Disney movie. Every girl wanted a temple wedding with a honeymoon at Disney World.
    Members are actively discouraged from reading doctrine. I went to talk with some missionaries once so they would quit knocking on my door and they asked me not to read the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, or the Pearl of Great Price without one of their bishops there to hold my hand. The excuse was something along the lines of "faith leaders can help new members invoke the presence of the Holy Spirit as you read the text."
    This lead to basically everybody having an abundance of misunderstandings of their own doctrine. Them not drinking caffeinated soft drinks is an example of this.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Say what you want, but buying scripture off a travelling salesman was a ballsy move. Even by Joseph "homie could make you give them money in less than five minutes" Smith Jr. Standards.
      Still, respect.

      >Their church rakes in so much fricking money in tithings. 10% of each member's annual income is the expectation. Not everyone is required to pay it if they can't afford it, but it's no wonder the Mormon church is a multi-billion dollar enterprise nonetheless.
      What is so bad about this? The church helps their own.
      >Baptisms for the dead are straight up disrespectful as hell.
      They are very innovative, theologically speaking. And from a mormon standpoint, whose to say his spirit didn't convert in the spirit world? (This is btw, not a secret teaching, they tell you about the spirit world-afterlife in their basic b***h pamphlets)
      Can't say shit about mormon culture because all mormon's I've encountered I had to go out of my way to find.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God that’s awful, it looks like Satan’s mockery of Christianity

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe the christianity you know was Satan's mockery of Mormonism.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You’re going to hell

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No such thing.
            I am not a mormon and my admiration of Joseph Smith extends merely to his power, charisma, ability, and security. With perhaps quite a bit of romanticism extended to him (alledgely) speaking with God.

            >mormonism
            crazy how one guy's desire to trick he wife into letting him have a second wife could lead to such a popular religion.

            He wasn't married at 23, though.

            Mormons are Christological heretics in a technical and genealogical sense but in a practical one they are absolutely Trinitarians. They've basically reconstructed a local form of Trinitarianism separate from the Hellenistic-derived Nicene Trinitarian formula. They believe that there are three persons made out of the same substance and that all things made out of this substance are God, they just allow for the possibility of more than those three things somewhere out there in existence. These greater-than-three beings that are God would just be uncontactably far away if they did exist.

            Where exactly Heavenly Mother fits into this is never really explained, but it's basically Marian Veneration (with similarly poorly defined boundaries as to "how is she not just a Goddess in her own right").

            [...]
            Ignoring Christgay seething at it not being their idealized Warhammer 40k version of Christianity, it's incredibly disrespectful, to the point of being an insult, to say "lol your dead grandma converted to Mormonism ergo you need to give me money". It's one thing to do it within your own lineage, or as part of a broader cosmological schema, it's another thing to use it as an evangelical technique.

            Well that sucks, but I can't find shit about it being official church policy. Probably just something a few c**ts did some times.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Caffeinated drinks ARE bad though and not enough people are calling it out. It's a highly addictive substance, no different than nicotine.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To my understanding, the Mormon conception of the Godhead is heretical and anathemic to the understanding of the Trinity laid out by the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mormons are Christological heretics in a technical and genealogical sense but in a practical one they are absolutely Trinitarians. They've basically reconstructed a local form of Trinitarianism separate from the Hellenistic-derived Nicene Trinitarian formula. They believe that there are three persons made out of the same substance and that all things made out of this substance are God, they just allow for the possibility of more than those three things somewhere out there in existence. These greater-than-three beings that are God would just be uncontactably far away if they did exist.

      Where exactly Heavenly Mother fits into this is never really explained, but it's basically Marian Veneration (with similarly poorly defined boundaries as to "how is she not just a Goddess in her own right").

      Say what you want, but buying scripture off a travelling salesman was a ballsy move. Even by Joseph "homie could make you give them money in less than five minutes" Smith Jr. Standards.
      Still, respect.

      >Their church rakes in so much fricking money in tithings. 10% of each member's annual income is the expectation. Not everyone is required to pay it if they can't afford it, but it's no wonder the Mormon church is a multi-billion dollar enterprise nonetheless.
      What is so bad about this? The church helps their own.
      >Baptisms for the dead are straight up disrespectful as hell.
      They are very innovative, theologically speaking. And from a mormon standpoint, whose to say his spirit didn't convert in the spirit world? (This is btw, not a secret teaching, they tell you about the spirit world-afterlife in their basic b***h pamphlets)
      Can't say shit about mormon culture because all mormon's I've encountered I had to go out of my way to find.

      Ignoring Christgay seething at it not being their idealized Warhammer 40k version of Christianity, it's incredibly disrespectful, to the point of being an insult, to say "lol your dead grandma converted to Mormonism ergo you need to give me money". It's one thing to do it within your own lineage, or as part of a broader cosmological schema, it's another thing to use it as an evangelical technique.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the understanding of the Trinity laid out by the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church
      Oh, that illogical idea that is never found in the Bible.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Joey is God.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Moroni's New Hill Cumorah

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fascinating

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't get it, aren't the Injuns the Lamanites?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't get it, aren't the Injuns the Lamanites?

        Wiltshire County, England

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >mormonism
    crazy how one guy's desire to trick he wife into letting him have a second wife could lead to such a popular religion.

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