Lol look at those wacky silly North Koreans

This is a common thing I see whenever the cult of personality of the Kim family is brought up online either on YouTube or elsewhere is how "wacky" North Korea is depicted and how people in the West consider this cult of personality to be silly or goofy with many inserting whatever meme or online perception they have of this country.

It's only goofy and silly to people if they don't understand the power of both propaganda and the culture of both Koreas. Korean culture is very collectivist and is based on Confucianist ideas. This is true in both North Korea and is true in South Korea even though South Korea is a democracy while North Korea still remains a dictatorship. We in the West might laugh at this but in reality I think this is just par for the course of having a very Confucianist society which places respect in the family both with your real family and within the nation. South Korea used to have this type of authoritarian rule (not to the extent of North Korea) until the 1980s and a lot of it comes down the Confucianist idea of Familism. That is why even among defectors many of them were genuinely sad when Kim Il Sung died in 1994. Not to paint a broad-brush on all Koreans here but it all boils down to Korean culture and East Asian collectivist culture both seen in the two Koreas and in Japan too.

Not defending the DPRK or its government, I'm just saying.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Chud Anon

    IS IT TIME FOR THE HOURLY KOREA THREAD????

    • 3 months ago
      Autistic DPRK Poster

      Sure but that doesn't mean that I like you or think you do anything to contribute to this board besides post your cancerous garbage that does nothing but shit up a thread that doesn't need your meme posts. Also is it true that some anon said on here you're not even an American but an Indonesian? Are you like Ian Miles Cheong or some shit lol?

      • 3 months ago
        Chud Anon

        >I like you

        I don’t come to IQfy to form social bonds, crawl back to discord you rat

        • 3 months ago
          Autistic DPRK Poster

          >form social bonds
          Explains a lot of the type of person that you are.

          I always figured North Korea was a blend of Stalinism, Maoism and 1930-40’s Japan.

          I think that idea was floated around before of it being a blend of those three. I'm not quite sure about the last part since while yes I see the similarities between the two, especially when it comes to the notion of self sacrifice for the leader and the collectivist group mentality, along with the fact that some of the slogans as well as themes like the song "Ten million will become bullets and bombs" is very similar to the Japanese slogan of the "100 million hearts are beating as one" from WWII, I think one person who I follow said something a few years ago concerning the cult of the Kim and religion in North Korea
          >It is keen to understand that Juche is a replacer for a religion not of religion in of itself. Allow me to elaborate:
          >The North Korean leader cult is one of the most expansive and powerful in the world. Possibly even in history. This cult like the Roman imperial cults of old postulates that the leader is a superhuman being with divine qualities. However it stops short of ever blatantly subscribing godhood to the Kim's or the Kim family. Within the Juche ideology, the Kim's are a deity adjacence. Now what does this mean? It means that the leader cult is akin to a religion but is not quite a religion. For example all people in North Korea believe that the Kim's are superhuman, superintelligent, and the purveyors of all good. However they don't think they are gods like Jesus who are off saving people from the dead and rising from the dead or bringing lightening down on the DPRK's enemies. Nor does it promise eternal life or damnation for those who choose or don't choose to follow the Kim's. There is no talk of a judgement day or reincarnation or transcending the spirits like in Eastern religions. (Continuing)

          • 3 months ago
            Autistic DPRK Poster

            >Some people would counter this by pointing out all the superhuman capabilities attributed to the Kim's by North Korean propaganda as direct evidence of the deification of the leaders. However it's imperative to understand that the Kim dynasty is supposed to be worthy of dictatorial rule and "royal leadership" because of their shared heritage as the Mount Paektu Bloodline, the purest and greatest scions of the pure and great Korean race. Not endowed by supernatural abilities by God or because they are considered divine but because they are the purest example of what is already to be a master race. This point is reenforced by the everchanging fluid Juche ideology a system of thought which is kept deliberately opaque and vague on all issues except for one, that the Kim's are infallible leaders of the Korean nation but that their legitimacy and supernatural qualities come from the single-hearted unity that the populace places in them not through divine means.
            This system is different from the notion of the divine right of kings or even the Imperial Cult of Japan based a lot of its legitimacy from the descendent of the Sun Goddess Amaterasu.

          • 3 months ago
            Autistic DPRK Poster

            And to add further to what my friend said, according to Kim Il Sung's autobiography, "With the Century" (1992) he acknowledges that he lives as an instrument of the Korean nation one who has messianic and godlike powers but not a god himself. With regard to godhood, Kim Il Sung once said famously, "My God is none other than the people. Only the popular masses are omniscient and omnipotent and almighty on earth." That doesn't strike me as a religious notion but rather a secular one in which Juche Korea is a people's socialist paradise that can deliver heaven on Earth.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I care, thanks

          • 3 months ago
            Autistic DPRK Poster

            Glad you like it. I think this person's opinion is up to interpretation. Others think the cult of the Kim is a religion while others agree with him and other researchers and will say that he is right. I agree with him that the cult of the Kim is based on a secularized cult which attributes superhuman and semidivine abilities and exploits to the Kim while not claiming to a be god because of their already perfect attributes of being Korean. To add further to this clarification, North Korea almost a decade ago realized a propaganda piece from Uriminzzokiri (Within our Nation) that said
            >Korea is a human paradise in which Jesus would have nothing to do even if he came,
            They use Christian wording such as "holy kingdom" but it's not based on divinity or an idea of an afterlife but in a secular format of these superhumans Kim delivering a human paradise because of "their perfect philosophy of love" which supposedly delivers the Korean people free healthcare, no taxes, free education, and other essentials. Uruminzokkiri also spoke in almost divine religious terms that
            >Comrades Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il are great leaders who, throughout our thousands of years in history, are the first figures to be welcomed and enshrined by our people.
            >“They are the eternal image of our Baekdu Mountain nation, and the banner of all victory and glory.”

          • 3 months ago
            Chud Anon

            You’re posting like I should care if you like me or my threads

          • 3 months ago
            Autistic DPRK Poster

            I just think you're an irritating dickhead with shit opinions. I'm just giving you my two cents. Hope the weather is nice in Jakarta.

          • 3 months ago
            Chud Anon

            >blubber blubber blubber

            No one cares homosexual, eat my ass

          • 3 months ago
            Autistic DPRK Poster

            I'm not blubbering. I'm just telling you to eat shit. Literally no one on here likes your /misc/tier takes.

          • 3 months ago
            Chud Anon

            >I speak for the whole board when I sa-ACK!

            [...]

            >>>/réddit/

            [...]

            [...]

          • 3 months ago
            Autistic DPRK Poster

            Whatever.

            Just filter namegays. The board magically improves when half the catalog isn’t underage shitskins.

            I'm not even going to bother with trying to reason with him anymore.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just filter namegays. The board magically improves when half the catalog isn’t underage shitskins.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            shouldnt even be possible to have a name on IQfy, there has never been a single worthwhile namegay poster

          • 3 months ago
            Chud Anon

            >half the catalog

            Not even true, they won’t let me post more than 5 threads at a time

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love communism

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I love communism

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always figured North Korea was a blend of Stalinism, Maoism and 1930-40’s Japan.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    When Michael Palin went to Korea he spoke with a farming girl who was well aware of how foreigners viewed her country. She said “it’s not like in your country. In our country, our people are tied to the leader. Mocking him and his system is like mocking ourselves.” If you search Pain in Korea on YouTube the entire thing is available for free.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x82kffn

  6. 3 months ago
    Chud Anon

    General Ridgeway orders an air strike against entrenched North Korean positions (1952, colorized)

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do North Koreans view the kims as gods? Is it the worlds biggest cult there?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They believe Kim Il Sung destroyed the Titanic with his spiritual powers because he was born the day it sank.

  8. 3 months ago
    Chud Anon

    >gets BTFO
    >loses thread
    >desperté for last word
    >I-I’m not going to respond to shitflinging i started

    You’re name should be “Autistic Chud Anon Ball Polisher” lmaoooo kill em

    • 3 months ago
      Autistic DPRK Poster

      K

      How (if at all) do you think North Korea is a reflection of Confucian/Legalist principles?

      I'll admit that it is difficult to find accurate information about Confucianism in North Korea and religion in general, the Juche Idea does encourage many Confucian ideas of loyalty, reverence, respect, and obedience which are among some of the core components of Confucianism and Legalist principles. Is it exactly a carbon copy of Confucianism? No, it also blends elements of collectivism and socialism with Korean characteristics and along with communism ever since 2021.

      • 3 months ago
        Korean War buff

        don't let the morons and spammers get to you. I've always loved your posts.

        I just asked Dan Carlin on Patreon to cover the Korean War, he mentioned once that it fascinated him but that's it.
        There are a lot of great stories from the war as interesting as anything during WW2 and Vietnam, during what Dan described as the "bar brawl" initial phase of the fighting the U.S. Eighth Army came within an ass-hair of being pushed off the Peninsula altogether except for General Walker and a few exceptional regimental/battalion commanders just barely managing to hold the lines together around Pusan. Walker wasn't a particularly brilliant general but the one thing he was good at was sheer uncreative drive and stubbornness, whenever U.S. troops started retreating southwards yet again he would fly over them in a recon plane screaming at them through a bullhorn to stop running and fight harder

        • 3 months ago
          Autistic DPRK Poster

          Thanks. I'll be honest the Korean War isn't something that I really read too much into as of late. My interest in history with North Korea is mostly with the postwar period such as during the Chollima Movement, the golden age of the country until the 1980s when things start going to shit afterwards.

          • 3 months ago
            Korean War buff

            i get it, i'm much more obsessed with the 1950-53 period of hostilities and less so about the domestic history of the DPRK. While i understand why it was memoryholed, it's incredible to me just how little of a presence it has in the American consciousness despite it being a MASSIVE fricking war, by some metrics the biggest war America's ever fought after WW2.
            Somebody relatively well-versed about the world wars would probably be able to know about Guadalcanal or Iwo Jima, yet you'd probably get a blank look in return if you ever mentioned the Pusan Perimeter or Kunu-Ri even though they had a comparable death toll to any Pacific Island battle and many European Theatre battles from 1941-1945.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Eisenhower taking a flight over the battlefield after the stalemate and he ended the war there and then

          • 3 months ago
            Autistic DPRK Poster

            Well I think it's memoryholed for obvious reasons with it overshadowing WWII and the fact that Congress never declared war. It was a "police action" that's where they get that term from. But I do agree with you that it is incredible and how forgotten this conflict was since it was a major flashpoint in the Cold War and it could have easily escalated had it not been for the restraint on both the Americans and on the Soviets side. Stalin may have been cruel but he wasn't suicidal or irrational when it come to this international game.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    How (if at all) do you think North Korea is a reflection of Confucian/Legalist principles?

    • 3 months ago
      Autistic DPRK Poster

      Confucianism:

      Hierarchy and Authority: Confucianism places a strong emphasis on hierarchy, respect for authority, and the importance of order in society. North Korea exhibits a hierarchical structure with an emphasis on authority and leadership, often centered around the ruling Kim family.

      Social Harmony: Confucian ideals of social harmony and stability are reflected in North Korea's focus on maintaining internal control and minimizing dissent.

      Filial Piety: Confucianism emphasizes the importance of filial piety, or respect for parents and elders. In North Korea, loyalty to the leadership, particularly to the ruling Kim family, is strongly emphasized.

      Legalism:

      Authoritarian Rule: Legalism, in its historical context, advocated for strong state control and the use of strict laws and punishments to maintain order. North Korea's regime exhibits centralized control and enforces strict laws, with severe consequences for dissent.

      Secrecy and Surveillance: Legalist ideas of strict control and surveillance are evident in North Korea's approach to information control, censorship, and surveillance of its citizens.

      Power Consolidation: Legalism promotes the consolidation of power in the ruler's hands for effective governance. In North Korea, power is concentrated in the ruling Kim family and the Workers' Party of Korea.

      It's important to recognize that North Korea's political system is not a direct replication of Confucian or Legalist principles. The regime's ideology, often referred to as Juche, is a unique and state-centric ideology developed by Kim Il-sung, emphasizing self-reliance, nationalism, and loyalty to the ruling family.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    hwang un mi or kim kwang suk

    • 3 months ago
      Autistic DPRK Poster

      Dim sum hold the dog

    • 3 months ago
      Autistic DPRK Poster

      The opera singer? She's okay but I think for the fact that she was one of the lead singers of Pochonbo Band and sang hits like "Where are You Dear General" along with "The Dear Name is Kim Jong Il", I think I'll go with Kim Kwang Suk to play along.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    .

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >chud anon so mindbroken he's pretending to be ADPRKP

    • 3 months ago
      Autistic DPRK Poster

      I just told him he's an asshat and giving him my 2cents. He's more than welcome to post relevant stuff on this thread but he should know that his /misc/tier garbage is super unoriginal and he needs better material. Otherwise he's no different than Ian Miles Cheong, a Malay who thinks he's American.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're kind of correct. Confucianism is pretty broad. It's more accurate to call the Koreas a kind of cultural patriarchy. Since Confucius always considered the leader the moral pinnacle. Whether good or bad.
    Personally I think its an awful way to run a nation, since it takes away responsibility from the citizenry.

    • 3 months ago
      Autistic DPRK Poster

      I think it all tends to treat citizens like they are just children who need a father or a mother. I'm not here though to judge the cultural differences between the West and the Koreas. In some circumstances, this type of moral principles and cultural customs are good for in times of disasters and hardships but they can also come off as way too paternalistic at times treating them like they are just children who need to be told what to do.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Confucius always considered the leader the moral pinnacle. Whether good or bad.
      Neither he, nor his followers, did not

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