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Why do all anti-virus and anti-malware software inevitably turn into malware themselves?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you can turn it off in the settings

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you can't, I tried.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        after googling
        ye it seems i'm remembered wrong
        anyway since you use the free version anyway, just disable its auto start up - as it doesn't do anything automatically anyway

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yeah that's what I'm gunna do. Still buttflustered and anuspained about it becoming adware.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because the entire premise of anti-virus software is flawed. if you do not misuse your device and the internet you will not ever come across malware, nevermind be at risk of "infection."

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > if you do not misuse your device and the internet you will not ever come across malware, nevermind be at risk of "infection."

      But muh updoots, muh zero-days, muh baby ducks. We need to keep users safe from themselves. You can't just allow the g̶o̶y user to control what websites he visits or what software is installed on his system. That's dangerous!

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If only your OS came with a build in virus scanner huh?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah the one that hogs all the CPU and makes my PC unusable every single time it activates with no permanent solution to stop it other than downloading a virus scanner.
      Thanks, microshit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        win10 & win11 Defender is a CPU hog. Big time. You can see it swingingly wildly all the time in Task Manager, going from nearly no CPU usage to up to 80%. Vintage hardware or modern hardware, it is completely ridiculous and makes Winhoes lag and even momentarily hang, and then on laptops it will eat the battery pretty bad, battery life literally improves exponentially on disabling it with regedit/gpedit.

        defender has been proven in countless tests to be the lightest AV you can get on windows, bar none. on CPU and RAM.

        Signature based scanners are a thing of the past anon, the last half a decade have been about behavior detection with endpoint protections

        defender has not been purely signature based for a long time. it has behavior detection. microsoft owns github and theyve used all of those resources to make defender really good at detecting malicious code. it also connects to azure sandboxes and checks what the program does if just a code analysis isnt enough, essentially running it in a VM for you. yet more, all of the billions of PCs running windows are all part of the database for defender. even if someone could bypass it, it wouldn't last for long.
        in short, there is no AV more powerful or lightweight than defender and it's one of the best things about windows. the con of windows is that it needs an AV in the first place and isnt just secure by design like macos, but what are you gonna do

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >there is no AV more powerful or lightweight than defender
          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, never used crowdstrike, sprout?
          Enterprise defender has seen some upgrades but doesn't hold a candle to crowdstrike and their consumer defender is bloated and inneficient, go look some benchmarks, please.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >defender has been proven in countless tests to be the lightest AV you can get on windows, bar none.
          A blatant lie. Source: at least 2 days a week windows defender decides to make my computer virtually unusable.
          Shut the frick up.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            PC/user issue. look up benchmarks

            >there is no AV more powerful or lightweight than defender
            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, never used crowdstrike, sprout?
            Enterprise defender has seen some upgrades but doesn't hold a candle to crowdstrike and their consumer defender is bloated and inneficient, go look some benchmarks, please.

            nobody is talking about enterprise here, i dont know why you brought it up. yes, obviously regular windows defender is not used nor sufficient for a corporation. we're comparing consumer AVs. and defender wins all day. just go look up benchmarks on youtube, i saw one by the pc security guy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >defender wins all day
            ???

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            idk where you got that bullshit chart from but youre hilarious if you think avast and avg are beating anything. kaspersky is the only one that's true, kaspersky truly is the most secure AV
            by that chart mcafee beats ESET. ESET, which many AV companies and google use as a base to build off of. you think mcafee beats ESET?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Its called a site with proper documentation, not youtube where you need a "friend" to feel secure while watching bullshit information
            https://www.av-comparatives.org/consumer/

            yeah you just proved my point, lol. higher = better on the impact score there. the only things beating defender are some rando AVs that nobody uses
            defender shits on literally all of the consumer AVs on performance and your chart shows it

            This is a lower = better chart anon, impact, as the name implies and you may better look it up on a dictionary, means how much performance is impacted using those brands.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >This is a lower = better chart anon, impact, as the name implies and you may better look it up on a dictionary, means how much performance is impacted using those brands.
            Cool, so you just proved that you didnt actually read the site you took the chart off of, LOL. we're done here moron

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >F-Secure
            >100%

            Do you want me to tell you how bullshit this chart is...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Corpo graph

            idk where you got that bullshit chart from but youre hilarious if you think avast and avg are beating anything. kaspersky is the only one that's true, kaspersky truly is the most secure AV
            by that chart mcafee beats ESET. ESET, which many AV companies and google use as a base to build off of. you think mcafee beats ESET?

            Holy based
            I kneel

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >youtube
            zoomers are fricking lost holy shit

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yeah you just proved my point, lol. higher = better on the impact score there. the only things beating defender are some rando AVs that nobody uses
            defender shits on literally all of the consumer AVs on performance and your chart shows it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >defender makes my computer unusable
            Your computer is worthless ewaste that should have been sent to a landfill years ago. The only fricking time I have ever seen defender make a computer unusable was when it was a decade old low budget pile of shit working with a dogshit hitachi 5400RPM hard disk as its OS and storage drive all in one.This isn't a defender problem, it's a you problem.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >consooooooooooooom!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I mustn't throw out my obviously outdated hardware that I admit I'm struggling to use due to it being outdated because that would be consoooming or something
            Are you indian, by any chance?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >doesn't know how to properly use "outdated" hardware
            Stuff that works doesn't actually stop working just because a new generation of pajeet coders makes software so bloated that it can no longer run on it. It's true, Windows 10 makes any HDD machine into a coffee grinder and shouldn't be left near it. But you don't have to throw it out if it just does what you need it to do. No one's forcing you to buy a new phone or pc every year, or to install updoots that make buying a new phone or pc every year needed. You can just not updoot.

            The only software that actually justifies buying hardware made in the current year are the new-fanged LLM models that need beastly GPUs to run on. If you're not doing very specific AI stuff, you don't need to buy new hardware. What are you gonna use it for? Shitposting? Watching israelitetube? Writing docs or compiling hello world programs? All those task worked perfectly well on the decade-old machines then, and they still work perfectly well on them now. Stop consooming, moron.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >entirely expected bot template post

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      win10 & win11 Defender is a CPU hog. Big time. You can see it swingingly wildly all the time in Task Manager, going from nearly no CPU usage to up to 80%. Vintage hardware or modern hardware, it is completely ridiculous and makes Winhoes lag and even momentarily hang, and then on laptops it will eat the battery pretty bad, battery life literally improves exponentially on disabling it with regedit/gpedit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Signature based scanners are a thing of the past anon, the last half a decade have been about behavior detection with endpoint protections

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://github.com/Cisco-Talos/clamav

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    money

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Windows Defender is all you need.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you don't care about security, sure

      >F-Secure
      >100%

      Do you want me to tell you how bullshit this chart is...

      Yeah, go ahead anon, prove them wrong, I wait

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Worked in IT for a university with a laptop program and 1000+ students
        >They used F-Secure. It Sucked so bad it became my personal 10 year mission to kill F-secure on campus
        >Literally disinfecting at least 2 laptops an hour for 8 hours 5 times a day
        >Students b***hing about how slow their PC is. Find out it's F-secure scanning Zip files and locking up PC's for 5 minutes cause a zip file is bigger than 20MB
        >Was the first company to do live hash scanning and supposedly deny new or unknown program hashes. Literally would let any hash run short of EICAR
        >Was so bad I though the Server Admin was an idiot and setup an F-secure trial in my house on a test box and turned all protections available in the client to their maximum settings. Infected test box in 30 seconds
        >Get a Conficker infection campus wide 3 years after Conficker was a thing after F-seucre themselves discovered it and couldn't talk about how great hey were at stopping Conficker.because F-secure would happily let the infection run on the PC's until it wrote to the Registry 30 minutes after it told every other Conficker infection running on F-secure machines the cracked NT admin PW. After it infected all of the campus servers the server admin had to shut all the servers down and clean them one at a time with a Norton cleanup tool because the F-secure Cleanup tool took so long it would reinfect the box before it was finished
        >Finally CIO says frick it and asks me to find an alternative. Still wanted me to evaluate F-secure. I did it by infecting a laptop on his desk running F-Secure with an ad on Google in 45 seconds
        >Test 20+ products. Test in phases. Watch as F-secure was beat by Norton and Mcafee in the first round.
        >Came down to Vipre Enterprise (My choice back when it was still independent and good), Norton (cause the CIO got a almost free deal by the Symantec Rep) and Sophos (Pretty much the same deal as Symantec but without the Norton Suck)
        >They Chose Sophos.
        >Virus calls drop 80%

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          -Continued
          >Sophos, while better, had it's own share of stupid, like allowing programs to install spyware, then b***h about the spyware, then fail to remove it and tell you how to uninstall it, which fails because it detects the spyware's uninstaller as a virus
          >Vipre gets bought out so many times I lost count and it goes to shit. Really dodged a bullet there.
          >Malwarebytes was Good but did not have a corporate level at the time.
          >Avira was my second choice, but the cost was pants on head moronic and their salesman were worse.
          >Kaspersky is what you buy when you hate Microsoft and you want to convince your boss to run Linux campus wide cause all of the PC's are randomly crashing and none of the logs make sense as to why and look like Microsoft service issues until you uninstall Kaspersky and all of the rando stupid problems go away.
          >F-secure is what you get when you hire the best infosec engineers in the industry to design an anti-virus strategy and then pay Forrest Gump to Code it. You never know what you're gonna get.
          >ESET was good but it's control server kinda sucked.
          >Bitdefender, Drweb and Microsoft was ok, control server was ok. Admin didn't like it though.
          >Trend Micro was Norton without the software suck.
          >Webroot and Panda can die in the dumpster fire that it is.
          >I don't think I have to tell anyone why Norton and Mcafee failed.
          >Avast didn't last round one.
          >In fact most AV got infected within 4 minutes or less. Viper and Avira actually lasted 10 minutes in a 15 minute torture test so it was my choices.
          >SentinelOne and Crowdstrike when configured right are the only things I've ever seen survive the 15 minute Virus gauntlet from hell if you got more money than god.

          TLDR, All Antivirus sucks. The only difference is how much you're paying for it. An Ad Blocker will block more crap than most AV's

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I only use other software specifically so defender won't activate, it ruins my PC.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >malwarebytes used to be the best scanner to use
    >if you used a keygen on it you'd get a special message on the client alluding to knowing what you've done
    >worked fricking perfectly
    >then it turned into a carbon copy of your run-of-the-mill rogue security software
    Genuinely, what the frick happened?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably got bought out and then run into the ground by someone without morals who merely wanted the brand and not the standards the original owner intended.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Almost every program is turning into the same ads ridden shit, even windows. Proprietary freeware used to be usable, now I have to specially look for open source software in places like GitHub to avoid these shits

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >$currentyear
    >using anti-malware and not your brain

    Lol, lmao even

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any proprietary software inevitably turns into malware over time.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Theyre made by corps
    But here are some less scammy ones that actually work:

    >malwarebytes
    >kaspersky
    >sophos

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously you want to point out that the developer of the anti-virus turns intentionally malicious.

    But there is some other dimension to it. To have this functionallity, anti-virus software needs some more permissions than your standard programm.
    This makes anti-virus software itself a excellent agent to target. If a attacker finds a exploit in anti-virus software itself, its a great priviledge escalation.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the only AV software you'll ever need is Windows Defender because it's baked into the OS. other providers than Microsoft, especially when it comes to other OSes, are promising you "security" with false and malicious statements. AV is a well thought out scam and people are falling for it, same goes for consoomer VPNs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >instantly auto-deletes adobe acrobat cracks and windows activators, no notifications, no nothing.
      No thanks

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it does give a notification and it doesnt delete it, just quarantines it. simply unquarantine it.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just use Linux.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just use linux

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >she doesn't know how to crack malwarebytes

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