many worlds interpretation is pathetic

The many worlds interpretation is not just false, it is pathetic.
I don't just think they're wrong, i look down on the character of physicists who believe in many worlds. They're weak.

They couldn't solve the problem of how wave function collapsed. And so they just throw it all out and declare "welp to solve the problem of wavefunction collapse, lets just declare that the collapse doesn't exist, and all we have are infinite permutations of all possible quantum words... Oh how does it branch off into a new world? oh, "somehow" idk ~hand waves it away~"

weak and pathetic because they couldn't do the necessary science and couldn't make a theory on collapse. So they just ignore it

modern many-worlders are an insult to all the Great quantum physicists of antiquity. Disrespectful to the Greats. They bring dishonor upon themselves and the whole modern scientific community.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you make a good point when you say that they dont even propose how such branching of into a new world even happens. they really have solved nothing so far, and yes many worlds is cringe

    • 2 weeks ago
      Morphism

      Exactly, not to mention that ignoring the collapse problem is not a solution to the collapse problem. They just ignore its existence.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly, not to mention that ignoring the collapse problem is not a solution to the collapse problem. They just ignore its existence.

      "Many worlds" in this context is schizobabble or comic book scifi, usually when people use that term now they refer to different universes rather than permutations on quantum events. Not that that's much better.

      > "Many worlds" in this context is schizobabble or comic book scifi, usually when people use that term now they refer to different universes. Not that that's much better.

      which is why it needs to die.

      Shut up and do the math you morons.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As opposed to many worlders? Because they blatently disregard the math. The Born rule, i.e. the most important computational tool of QM, has no place in their "interpretation".

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Many worlds" in this context is schizobabble or comic book scifi, usually when people use that term now they refer to different universes rather than permutations on quantum events. Not that that's much better.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Morphism

      > "Many worlds" in this context is schizobabble or comic book scifi, usually when people use that term now they refer to different universes. Not that that's much better.

      which is why it needs to die.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    superdeterminism is correct.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Superdetermism is the belief that the universe is playing a long-running practical joke on us

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no, superdeterminism is the belief that no event could have unfolded any differently.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol what's the difference between determinism and superdeterminism, what a joke

      either way equally falsifiable as free will, it's nothing more than a hobbyists discussion. proving determinism requires a scope beyond phenomenon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >lol what's the difference between determinism and superdeterminism, what a joke
        good point - there is none. you can thank john bell for the stupid word.

        >either way equally falsifiable as free will, it's nothing more than a hobbyists discussion. proving determinism requires a scope beyond phenomenon.
        correct, you have no idea how refreshing it is for me to see someone who actually gets it. though despite being unprovable, the question is still vital.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your mistake is in assuming the "many worlds" are in parallel rather than in series.
    Sorry but you're actually just too low IQ to have this discussion.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Consciousness is what collapses the wavefunction.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Morphism

      correct.

      they say that all quantum objects exist as a wavefunction by default, and are then collapsed somehow. And this is a real phase change that is nontrivial. I agree. Yes
      so
      In double slit experiment, the photon is emitted, and is a wave, and is defined its wavefunction, correct? This is the default state of it as the photon is a quantum object. And the mainstream interpretation is that the detector (when on) collapsed the wavefunction of the photon, making it a particle.
      yea, so
      so
      but in order for something (like a detector) to perform an observation, it must also be be collapsed in-and-of-itself in order to have any causal impact on the photon
      so
      the problem is, and I dont know why anyone ever asked this:
      what collapsed the detector? It is indeed a quantum object, with a cpu, lens, ect. All these parts, and the aggregate whole of the dectector by default should be merely an uncollapsed wavefunction. Unable to have causal impact and perform an observation

      In fact
      the entire laboratory should be in superposition. All of it. All of it should be an uncollapsed wavefunction.
      yes. There must be some object in the laboratory that is very special, such that its existence cannot be in a superposition of states. If there existed an object like that, it would imply the necessity of the rest of the laboratory to collapse with it. Since this hypothetical object cannot be in a superposition of states, then anything it interacted with would collapse.
      hmmm, I wonder what that very special object is?
      hmmm, come to think of it, nothing ive ever perceived or experienced has ever been in a superposition of states. Nope. Never seen anything like that. I look around my room, and I see a real physical chair. Not a statistical amalgamation of infinite states. The chair has 4 legs, not a probability distribution of legs. Nope. Anyway, still wondering what that very special object that cannot be in a superposition of states is. Anyone have any guesses?
      hmmmmmmmmmm...

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    today i remind them all.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      honestly you have to be aproper spastic to come up with this shit

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sorry but the wave function never collapses, that's all

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do you even collapse gravity bro?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, it is pathetic. Scientists reached the fundamental limit of observation by a human brain and instead of realizing that there are many brains observing, they concluded that there are many worlds. It is the dumbest logical leap ever.

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