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Are monks the prototype of the "internet addict" (information addict) personality?

And how has our view on history been biased through the fact that they did most of the work to preserve information?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Are monks the prototype of the "internet addict" (information addict) personality?
    Tell me you know nothing about monks without telling me you know nothing about monks.
    The screen addicted, coomer brain, life in luxury homosexuals are unable to even comprehend, in any kind of proximity, the kind of hardship and renunciation a monk goes through.
    And whilst I know some of you gaiboys are "suffering" or whatever, you're still suffering in the lap of luxury, and your suffering serves no purpose and has no reason to it.
    You may not be normies, but don't fool yourselves, you've got nothing in common with monks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've always considered typing anonymous shitposts into the void akin to the Buddhist monks crafting elaborate sand paintings just to be destroyed when they're finished.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Baffling conclusion considering that people on the internet are usually obsessed with winning arguments and the like. Seems like the polar opposite of the monk mindset.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not as long as you remember that none of this matters, and this conversation will disappear into the void shortly after its conclusion.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but no one does this. People on the internet are even pettier & more confrontative than IRL and will never admit to an error.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I ain't frick with Buddhists anon.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Black folk usually don't.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Buddhist monks crafting elaborate sand paintings just to be destroyed when they're finished.
        They're not the buddhists, they're the vajrayanaists.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP isn't exactly wrong and is likely unaware of Orthodox asceticism. I'm Orthodox, but really some of these Western monks had their own equivalent of being terminally online. You can still be observe this in the scholastic mindset of some Autists who know everything and understand nothing. Fr. Seraphim Rose represents the more mystical attitude of the Eastern mindset of knowing truth in wisdom gained through asceticism; praxis over theory: East vs West.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Picrel pretty much sums up my opinion of orthodoxy

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You're not as rich as us.
          Ok, why does that matter? Americans are very rich but for all that they're spiritually bankrupt. Material riches don't enrich the soul necessarily.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The spiritual richness of the Russian civilization
            Ivan... Please

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My wife is Romanian. I go there often to visit her family. The people there are extremely religious. You go to the train station and the employees have icons of the virgin in their kiosks. You take a taxi and every time the driver passes a church he crosses himself. The priests in Bucharest go around to every apartment periodically to bless the houses. It is obvious they have a deeper respect towards religious matters than those of us in the West. And yes, Eastern Europe was late to industrialise, resulting in communism, which accounts for a lot of their economic problems. Remember before the Industrial Revolution there was practically no significant economic or technological progress worldwide for centuries. Countries which were late to industrialise had to play catch up. But are the fruits of industrialisation and capitalism really that beneficial, or have the Amish got something right in some sense?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >My wife is Romanian
            fap fap fap fap fap

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Would you recommend moving to Romania as a westerner (not a sex tourist)?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why not?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-cons-of-living-in-Romania

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Depends on your life situation and character. There are some nice places to live there, I like their mountain towns away from the city like Sinaia. Beautiful nature, quiet, peaceful. Lots of great places to hike, Orthodox monasteries and churches, castles, skiing in the winter. The city of Bucharest is ok but there are lots of beggars and people and I personally hate living in cities. Their countryside is still rooted in peasant culture, very tightly knit remote villages, probably would be lonely for a foreigner to move there alone.

            All round it’s a very interesting culture, they represent sort of a bridge between East and West being Latin in race and language and Orthodox in religion. Low income tax (10% flat tax) is a plus, some good schools if your kids turn out smart (lots of mathematics Olympiad winners come from there), free university and healthcare.

            As I said it all comes down to your personal and financial situation. Probably the wages are lower on average. If you don’t already know people from there it will also be harder socially.

            Anyway that’s my two cents

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Interesting, are you Romanian?
            >Probably the wages are lower on average
            What if I was an English teacher there?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Low income tax is a meme btw the real taxes are income tax (10%), CASS basically social security (25%) and CAS healthcare tax (10%)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How many Americans do you know personally? I like how you accuse of making blanket statements about us but then turn around and do the same thing to us. For all I know Russia is a country full of alcoholic drug addicts who pimp their wives out to the west for creepy sex pests. But I don’t know any personally so I can’t make that claim so I suggest you don’t do the same, capiche?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            American spirituality is Pentecostalism kool aid, mega-church brainwashing, fundie baptist preachers screaming about how gays should get brain cancer, Black folk churches where everybody shouts DAS RITE all the time, millionaire televangelists, Jehova's witnessses, mormons, crazy people, etc.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Reformation really did a number on Western thought. The Faustian thirst for knowledge is really just desire for Theosis without Christ. Pic rel is on par with the prosperity gospel.

          Lol, Eastern "Christianity" is low IQ superstition. They literally believe that God is sometimes physically observable as a light. That God's "energies", which are divine, come down into this world and are really distinct from his essence, and undergo change, and are sometimes visible to the eyesight. Even Islam doesn't have such idiotic superstitions. Islam and Western Christianity teach that God is metaphysically simple, which follows from him being the metaphysically necessary ground of all existence. Islam and Western Christianity both teach that God does not change, that his will is not successive but unified in one single comprehensive act of eternal will. Eastern "Christianity" is still in the stage of animism; it hasn't even ascended to monotheism yet.

          You see with your nous, not your material eyes. It's not light from a flashlight. The bible clearly states Moses face was shining with light after he descended from Sinai after talking with God. The grace of God shining from Moses' face is the uncreated light, God's energies. You deny scripture. Allah is a demon who makes dogs out of men.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lol, Eastern "Christianity" is low IQ superstition. They literally believe that God is sometimes physically observable as a light. That God's "energies", which are divine, come down into this world and are really distinct from his essence, and undergo change, and are sometimes visible to the eyesight. Even Islam doesn't have such idiotic superstitions. Islam and Western Christianity teach that God is metaphysically simple, which follows from him being the metaphysically necessary ground of all existence. Islam and Western Christianity both teach that God does not change, that his will is not successive but unified in one single comprehensive act of eternal will. Eastern "Christianity" is still in the stage of animism; it hasn't even ascended to monotheism yet.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn’t actually explain information junkies though, just coomers.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gaiboys
      Would be more impactful if you weren't posting a literal homosexual

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >posting seraphim rose
      Automatically everything you say is discredited.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This Trappist monk is one of my favorite authors

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Pennington

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/rTwPN5q.jpg

      this Vietnamese Thiền Buddhist monk is one of my other favorite authors

      Do you practice centering prayer? I have enjoyed it as a spiritual practice.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this Vietnamese Thiền Buddhist monk is one of my other favorite authors

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. A better parallel would be antiquarians. Less interested in having in-depth knowledge on anything, more interested in being able to tell people fun facts about obscure books.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this assclown here is Thomas Merton, a Trappist monk in the 40s, 50s and 60s at a abbey in central Kentucky

    For some reason people love this guy's books, but I found him to be pompous and self-aggrandizing while lacking any real substance

    But my boy Thich Nhat Hanh above has shared the eucharist with Merton (talks about it in one of his books) and the Pope has praised Merton for being a "man of dialogue, a promoter of peace between peoples and religions"

    In don't know much about him in that regard as that's not part of his books I read. Books I read where his talk about his personal life and spiritual quest. There are a lot of people that like it books but it was gag to me. Now Basil Pennington above, that dude is a good author on the spiritual life

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I actually was thinking of picking up Merton books

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my guess is the only reason he was popular to anyone because he was literally the only American monk that wrote a book about being a monk from 1900-recent history, so people thought it was cool because that was the only one. The one you hear about is . The Seven Storey Mountain. Harvest Books, 1948.

        It sucked donkey dicks. But nowdays, you have lots of American monks writing books, and they are actually good. Basil Pennington is one I recommend.

        he's written
        Centering Prayer: Renewing an Ancient Christian Prayer Form (1980, 1982, 1998, 2001)
        "Monastic Journey to India" (1982, 1999)
        "Monastery: Prayer, Work, Community" (1983)
        "Called: New Thinking on Christian Vocation" (1983)
        "Daily We Follow Him: Learning Discipleship from Peter" (1987)
        "Mary Today" (1987)
        "Living Our Priesthood Today" (1987)
        "Prayertimes" (1987)
        "Through the Year with the Saints" (1988)
        "Monastic Life" (1989)
        "The Monastic Way" (1990)
        "The Fifteen Mysteries: In Image and Word" (1993)
        "Praying by Hand: Rediscovering the Rosary As a Way of Prayer" (1995)
        "Awake In The Spirit" (1995)
        "Daily We Touch Him" (1997)
        "A Place Apart: Monastic Prayer and Practice for Everyone" (1998)
        "Lectio Divina" (1998)
        "Centering Prayer in Daily Life and Ministry" (1998)
        "Centered Living: The Way of Centering Prayer" (1999)
        "Living in the Question: Meditations in the Style of Lectio Divina" (1999)
        "True Self/False Self: Unmasking the Spirit Within" (2000)
        "Eucharist: Wine of Faith, Bread of Life" (2000)
        "Listening: God's Word for Today" (2000)
        "The Bread of God: Nurturing a Eucharistic Imagination" (2001)
        "A School of Love: The Cistercian Way to Holiness" (2001)
        "The Abbey Prayer Book" (2002)
        "20 Mysteries of the Rosary: A Scriptural Journey" (2003)
        "Call to the Center, Revised: Gospel's Invitation to Deeper Prayer" (2003)
        "Who Do You Say I Am?: Meditations on Jesus' Questions in the Gospels" (2005)

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I admire monks from every religion. Must be a hard way of life. This doc about modern christian ascetics is kino

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >our view on history been biased through the fact that they did most of the work to preserve information
    Their biases kind of give a lot of insight into the era too. Sometimes they redact things, and so long as we have another copy, we can tell what they found taboo. Sometimes they write sermons against things so we can tell that's suddenly a large social problem that's sprung up in the community. But the one I like best is that monks complain a lot in marginalia. They write about the monk they hate, how this monastery is so much more shit than this other one they want to go to, how long it takes to write a page with a fufking feather, how the food is this winter, and all kinds of shit they figure nobody is going to read because the only people who can read are monks and they're all too busy writing today's quota to bother looking at your copy. Some of our most important and oldest written extant works we have because someone used it as scrap paper, accidentally conserving medieval pop songs alongside weird rants the abbot had about whatever the monks had or hadn't been doing lately.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No? Are you fricking moronic?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's known that the temptation of knowledge is one the last tempatation of a wise man and it's known for monks because these two categories interlapse. Monks are dedicated to wisdom, but the Wisdom of God, second person of the trinity (the revelation of God the unknown (Father) to humans through the incarnation) not the wisdom of books, but their can be tempted to settle down to philosophical/human wisdom.
    Human knowledge has to be subordinated to prayer and spiritual insight. Read the philokalia for exemple.

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