>movie about greatest emperor in the history of mankind. >...

>movie about greatest emperor in the history of mankind
>...
>it's made by americans and is 3 hours of constant cuckoldry
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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >greatest emperor in the history of mankind
    alexander wept

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      alexander was a great general and a great conqueror but an absolute crap emperor
      judge the worth of an emperor in what happened to their empires after their deaths

      Napoleon by this is also a crap emperor by the way

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Napoleon by this is also a crap emperor by the way
        Implying, he literally lifted Germany from the dark ages through clever legislation which included kneecapping city guilds and making commerce free. Places where napoleonic laws stuck ended up better off than their peers

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Greatest emperors should be guys who actually consolidated power and had on going empires after they were gone so Augustus, Cyrus and that Chinese guy who burried all those nerds

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Qin Shi Huang is kind of a shit emperor by the metric anon applied. He died without a proper heir or affairs of state in order for succession and his dynasty was almost immediately usurped and reverted to fractured states. Sure, unifying China was impressive but his legacy was pretty short. Was he not the first to do so he wouldn't be remembered

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            he set a precedent, that's something

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            precedent matters little if you can't actually keep it together
            the first and most important task of any empire is to keep existing

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i was just yessaying, he fricked up, but did end up an inspiration later on.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            sure but that does not make him a good emperor
            it makes him a great conqueror and competent administrator while he was alive (and before mercury cooked his brain)
            and while being an inspiration is useful, it is not something that can be considered an inherent quality, after all inspiration can be both positive and negative, and what matters is how the people who are inspired interpret it and what "they" do with it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            right. but he did give good inspiration. i think we're between downplaying and praising so I'll just onions and drop this.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nah I'm neither downplaying nor praising, more that I'm personally judging emperors quite harshly by their long term thinking and succession plans and how stable the systems they set up were without them in charge

            Augustus for example compares very favorably in this equation, mostly because the levers of governance he set up were stable enough to survive several outright hated successors
            He also paid a lot of attention to succession and it was a cruel twist of fate that both his groomed successors died early, the foresight to have 2 of them again being something to praise him for, and the ability to pivot adequately to a third is a measure of competence as Emperor again

            That said Augustus is a pretty terrible conqueror, and was somewhat lucky to have Agrippa

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Liu Bang absolutely fits it though, the Han dynasty was by every possible measure of empire a massive success

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Napoleon by this is also a crap emperor by the way
        No he isn't. He took a state that literally had something known as "The Terror" barely in the rearview and was being invaded by every European power and organized it to be able to conquer Europe. It literally took all of Europe like 6 tries to defeat him and he still fricking came back and almost won the rematch.

        I'm never going to see Scott's movie because it's absolutely impossible that the guy who made Gladiator, basically a PG revenge fantasy in le Rome, did justice to the actual history.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          His empire did not succeed him, by every measure of empire that is a failure
          the fact that europe ganged up on him is HIS failure

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >His empire did not succeed him
            The Napoleonic Code established legal norms throughout all of Europe and his nephew, Louis Napoleon, was the first president and last monarch of France. What's this nonsense you're talking of le lasting empire? Lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the fact that europe ganged up on him is HIS failure
            Also, that's an absolutely moronic take. Europe ganged up on the Revolutionaries for being insane frickers trying to start civic religions and cutting everyone's heads off. Napoleon not only took control of the fricked up nonsense the Revolution had become but defended France from invasion. Again, they had to team up on him 5 times before barely being successful only to all collectively shit their pants when they found out he made his way back into Europe.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Napoleon completely bungled the diplomatic and administrative aftermath of his conquests
            He did not need to turn Spain into a clusterfrick, he did not need to install widely unpopular family members everywhere, incompetent family members at that, he did not need to destroy the peace he had with Russia

            There are so many things he did that were not necessary and were critical to his eventual downfall and yes these are all things that count against him as emperor

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Napoleon completely bungled the diplomatic and administrative aftermath of his conquests
            Lol, France was literally being continuously invaded on all fronts. Your reaction is "he wasn't nice enough..."

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            France was not, after the defeat of Austria and Prussia nobody was invading France from anywhere

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they were all just leaving France alone but Napoleon messed up (I would have done better because...)
            Lol, stop. My sides.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how come the "greatest emperors in history" all died/were exiled right before it became time to actually manage an empire?

            Mutt spotted

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry guys, Julius Ceaser died so he sucks at empires. Also, he wasn't even biologically related to Octavian (cuck, lol) and who cares if his name became the title.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Julius Caesar objectively sucked at empire building yes
            He tried to have himself crowned king and then tried to play it off as a joke when the Romans were baffled and outraged by it
            He allowed a political resistance to grow under his direct nose, a political resistance so large the majority of the senate was either sympathetic or actively involved

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >durrrr, here's what you got wrong Julius Caesar
            Lol, moron confirmed.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            he got assassinated in full view of the entire Senate with nobody coming to his rescue
            and it wasn't a clean assassination, it was a struggle

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he got assassinated
            Holy shit you're dumb.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            were you there, mate?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >...y-you weren't there!
            Always the last retreat of a historically illiterate pseud.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Julius Caesar objectively sucked at empire building yes
            Yeah except for the fact how he built a fricking empire and had the wisdom to give his name to Octavian. He made the mistake of assuming people wouldn't be moronic enough to try and assassinate the most popular man in rome, they did it anyway and look at where it got em

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He did fricking nothing but leave it to Octavian and even that he didn't do properly, it was Octavian's own swift thinking in how he used Caesar's money that secured his place as successor
            He built nothing, Caesar was trying to be king in a society that flat out would never tolerate a king

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >t. watched HBO's Rome and thinks he earned a PhD in History

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >judge the worth of an emperor in what happened to their empires after their deaths
        Peak brainlet. Never post again.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >judge the worth of an emperor in what happened to their empires after their deaths
        Based and high IQ take.

        >judge the worth of an emperor in what happened to their empires after their deaths
        Peak brainlet. Never post again.

        Braindead moron.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >judge the worth of an emperor in what happened to their empires after their deaths
        posting the GOAT

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Alexander should never be used as a comparison for anything. He died far too early to be judged on the same metric as other great leaders of human history. Always found it somewhat foolish that so many inspired by his conquest puts him on such a high pedestal when we're deprived of the opportunity to see him operate post-conquest.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ridley scott is not american

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >film about cuckold
    >frogs seethe that the cuckold gets cuckolded

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >greatest emperor in the history of mankind

    You rang?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Hmmm, let me completely destroy this power-sharing thing the empire has and take all the power for myself
      >Also, I am going to divide the empire between my heirs on my deathbed ensuring a stable future for my empire, surely they will all learn how to get along and won't plunge the empire into another round of civil war in an attempt to emulate me
      Yeah he was pretty good gotta admit.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kubrick wept

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OCEANS ARE NOW BATTLEFIELDS

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The traits men respect in other men are not the traits that make a good frick necessarily

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This shlop was forgotten so fast.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I stopped caring the second I saw Josephine. Whenever ads put that much attention on a wife like that you know the script is shit.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I watched it in the theater and i cant remeber anything about it.
    Its a shame, i always defend ridley scott when anons on tv talk shit about his movies but this one i have to admit was just forgettable

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was made by bongs and israelites, not Americans.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh frick it anon. We get blamed for everything else so just bite the bullet on this too. WTF.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Scott also declared, responding to French critics, that "the French don't even like themselves".
    How can one man be so based?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >greatest emperor in the history of mankind
    ?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >movie about greatest emperor in the history of mankind
    wrong picture, here's the right one

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who gives a poop about the greatest emperor when I can instead learn about the greatest empires.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Napoleon was a manlet who was legitimately cucked by his wife. There's no getting around this. Many a great man has been cucked. Such is life.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Napoleon was above average height at that time you mongoloid britbong

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >didn't deny his wife cucking him

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how come the "greatest emperors in history" all died/were exiled right before it became time to actually manage an empire?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Conquering an empire probably takes a lot out of a man.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its like saying you're the greatest dad because you creampied a woman

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >i'm le fan of le emperor
    cringe ass nerd

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >greatest emperor in history
    Genghis Khan?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >YOU THINK YOU'RE SO GREAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE BOATS
    I stood up from the couch and yelled KINOOOO

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did he even make it about Napoleon? Why not just make up a character and say it's loosely based on him, instead of the senile pseud take of insisting it's really Napoleon but history doesn't matter.
    What a complete fricking meme of a film; pretty sure nobody even talks about it anymore outside of IQfy to take the piss out of Ridley for 50 posts.

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