My grandma said she learned from some tv program that its impossible to clone a human being because of some "God gene".

My grandma said she learned from some tv program that its impossible to clone a human being because of some "God gene". Is that true? (The soul notwithstanding). I figured it was just too controversial, so nobody put in the time and money.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nope, as far as I know it's only the moralgays that run ethics boards stopping human cloning at this point.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Count me among these "normalgays"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moralgays*

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moralgays*

        Why do you think cloning is ethically wrong?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          for the same reason why giving birth is wrong

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Based

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            Why do you think cloning is ethically wrong?

            I believe in the soul. I don't think you could create anything with a conscience by cloning a human.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NTA, but it creates far too many legal uncertainties. Consider a non-cloned human. They have rights X, Y, and Z; and if you violate those rights you break the law. Now, let's say some lab clones a human being. Can they patent anything? Even just a specific gene code? Who is the child's legal guardian, the mother used as a womb donor, or the genetic donors or the lab staff? If the technology is mass produce-able, what are its applications? Are there in fact any? Does cloning really produce a better result than the old fashion way?

          It's a cool technology, but anyone who tries it will instantly become hated by both religious and human rights groups no matter what, and they are highly likely to be dragged through the courts at the smallest sign of "abuse".

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There is also the issue of adaptability. the reason why evolution works is because life is constantly adapting via mutation. when you clone you're essentially just making a living organism that is stuck in evolutionary time and unable to adapt.
            of course there is room for genetic errors in cloning so maybe this idea isn't correct.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The allure of cloning comes from the idea that a certain set of genetics can be "better" than all others, but across a whole organism and in multiple environments this immediately becomes dubious. Maybe you want to clone livestock or plants, and this would be fine, but also has some danger in the form of disease. In humans, we are so far from identifying what genes are better than others and also much better able to spread these through gene editing that cloning is just a big "so what?"

            Cloning would be really cool if we didn't already know how to make humans. But we do. So... yeah.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            moron, you don't understand evolution

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not if you can introduce mutations to the clone, or even better, engineered changes.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What if a female scientist cloned herself and birthed the clone? Would not that just be her normal child with extra steps?

            I havent read much into clones but I recall the sheep clones dying early. Is cloning technology still as bad? I imagine it could theoretically be done without legal/ethic issues but the high death rate would likely leave a psychological toll.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Would not that just be her normal child with extra steps?
            See, that's half the problem. Nature itself already has cloning, and it abandoned it in favor of sexual reproduction due to all the faults of cloning. So yeah, you are skipping some legal loopholes, and then entering into the "but why would you want to?" side of things. It shifts from ethical questions to practical ones.

            Dolly died early, possibly out of bad luck. It's a common misconception from Dolly that cloning = genetic degregation, but the reality was that Dolly may have gotten cancer even if she was naturally conceived. Every other clone is fine.
            https://www.statnews.com/2016/07/26/dolly-sheep-clone-aging/
            >13 other sheep clones from the same batch of cells are aging normally, showing no signs of hypertension, diabetes, or serious arthritis at their relatively young age

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    television is unironically for morons

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's what I tried to tell her; if you want real information, get on the internet and find good sources.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >My grandma said she learned from some tv program that its impossible to clone a human being
    What are twins for $200 Alex

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, I meant artificially

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If that were true identical twins couldn't exist

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your grandma is a moron.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      seems hereditary

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You must be 18+ to post here grandma's boy

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 32. Grandma is going to die in a matter of years

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