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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol, I'm still on 80/20 VDSL in UK. My contract runs out in August, so I'll be looking for synchronous FTTP next. But so far all I've found is asynchronous.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look for internet providers that give matching upload speeds
      Fiber has great upload

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's what synchronous means.

        Modern DOCSIS 4.0 should be capable of gigabit upload speeds, if the ISP cared to offer it.

        >if the ISP cared to offer it.
        That's the main issue here in the UK. Most don't offer it unless its some small niche service. BT, Plusnet, Virgin (the big three)... I don't think any of them provide synchronous fibre.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah one of the big ISPs in my city has 2gbps download with 45mbps upload. So fricking moronic.

          For $20/month less I have fiber service with 1gbps in both directions.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You mean symmetric

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Different names for the same thing. Just depends on the part of the world you live in.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            where in the world is symmetric called synchronous

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Synchronous means aligned by a signal, often a shared clock signal.
            Asynchronous means it doesn't align by a signal, such as interrupts.
            These words are not used for what you're describing. They are not different names for the same thing.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.google.com/search?q=synchronous+internet

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronous_optical_networking
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronous_optical_networking#Difference_from_PDH

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Virgin
          lol I checked the website and they're offering 2000/200 for 85 quid. I'd prefer 2000/2000 to be honest.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FibreSmart.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i suffer in bongland

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know what I'm switching to when my contract expires.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >FibreSmart
        Do they even offer this residentially?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seems like it

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what's wrong with this pricing? for $100 more you get 100x faster internet?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >10G exists
        huh

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ISPs offer asymmetric fiber? Wtf? I have symmetric gigabit FTTH.
      Also it's symmetric not synchronous

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      10/1 ADSL2+ in the US and somehow we are considered a 1st world country

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nationwide FTTH with 4+ strands of fiber is a good idea.

        1025 megabytes/s and 3125 megabytes/s..... are we sure they aren't giving you 1024 and 3072 and lying with the rounding and using gigaBITs? Motherfricking israelites be honest.

        It's 10gbit, yes. Or 25gbit if you can build the hardware cause a $700 or so mikrotik is only like 15-20gbit actual iirc. Pretty good latencies too.

        If you want some details https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXmJCzMeIBo

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I got fiber installed recently, they ran a fiber with 72 strands, seemed overkill for 200mbps service.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >72 strands
            >for 200mbps service
            Considering each strand can probably handle 1gbps+, yes that's overkill for 20pmbps.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >72 strands
            >for 200mbps service
            Considering each strand can probably handle 1gbps+, yes that's overkill for 20pmbps.

            Yes, that 10/10 25/25Gbit service here uses 1 strand (with a different SFP module for the other of the two).

            72 strands may not be all just for you, maybe they intend to branch off? Of course if they put 72 strands in each premise just for the premise that's nice.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's a fairly large facility so they might've thought we were hosting businesses, but we're the only occupants (across all 3 buildings on site) and we only need 200mbps, and I told the engineer as much when he came out to do the site survey before installation.

            But yeah, they threw in a 72-strand fiber, a breakout box with like 48 ports (pic related) and then they spliced a SINGLE fiber strand and handed that off to the ONT.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That almost deserves an inscription... or label for your great-grandchildren who eventually get to use these strands of fiber.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's what synchronous means.

      [...]
      >if the ISP cared to offer it.
      That's the main issue here in the UK. Most don't offer it unless its some small niche service. BT, Plusnet, Virgin (the big three)... I don't think any of them provide synchronous fibre.

      It's symmetric/asymmetric you fricking cretins. So much for the english coming up with english, you c**ts clearly don't know it any more.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're both acceptable English, just depends where you live which would be used by most people.

        >Synchronous bandwidth provides equal upload and download speeds, while asynchronous bandwidth offers different upload and download speeds, with the download speed typically faster.

        > Symmetric bandwidth means that an internet connection has equal upload and download speeds, while asymmetric bandwidth means that the download speed is faster than the upload speed.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >THE MENTAL GYMNASTICS

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh poor you.

      I'm dying here.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I suffer in France

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what? I thought you guys had like free or whatever they are called with FTTH? are you in Toulouse proper? that's basically rural Canada speeds wtf lol. c'est vraiment un rituel d'humiliation de vivre hors de l'île de France lmaooo

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Virgin does symmetric as an addon package

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do they still force you to use their shit modem? Back when I was with them they had ones with shitty Intel Puma chips with known flaws that caused them to overheat all of the time.

        I shudder to think what they'll be like handling even higher bandwidth requirements (I know that's mostly offloaded but the CPU does still do something).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They do but you can put it in bridge mode and use your own router. That's what I'm doing and it works fine (500Mb).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            For their symmetric speeds bridge mode supposedly isn't a thing though. At least from what I was reading.

            You have to let it do the routing. You can still plug a switch into it though which is probably what I'd do.

            Not that I'll be considering them anytime soon. It'll be years before they upgrade their network outside of England.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >so I'll be looking for synchronous FTTP next
      Good luck, it doesn't exist unless you live in London or one of the select few areas with an altnet available.

      Best you can get is BT 900/120 or EE 2.5gbit/120 (assuming you live in an area served by Openreach Fibre)

      Virgin Media will do faster sync speeds for all eventually when they're finished upgrading all of their shitty copper which they should have invested in replacing ages ago.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate that most providers give shit upload
    Fiber Optic is the only was i know to get get gigabit+ upload speeds

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Modern DOCSIS 4.0 should be capable of gigabit upload speeds, if the ISP cared to offer it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So cool
        Fast upload always have super fast ping
        My area gives up to 5000/5000 fiber internet
        I want the 2000/2000 plan because of ts $99 a month

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here is my wifi speeds with my phone and a 2x2 802.11AC access point.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lol. 20/5 here.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are no symmetrical fiber ISP options in your city?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Symmetrical internet filters out so many providers

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there is im swapping to AT and T tomorrow 2 gig for the same price im paying for this

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >41.28 upload
    ngmi

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >seeding

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Still nice to upload pirated games and movies to your friends directly.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    average internet speed in ohio xD

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not surprised to see Spectrum is still the same years later. I used to have them when they were still called Time Warner Cable, but when my local phone company rolled out fiber in my neighborhood back in late 2016, I switched and never looked back (this was about the exact same time TWC rebranded to Spectrum). Had so many problems with Spectrum and I was well past done, all I needed was another viable option and I was outta there. I'm convinced most of their success these days is probably owed to the fact that there's little to no competition for their customers to escape to.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Time Warner" actually became a lot better when it switched over to Spectrum. That said, FTTH has been creeping up from Cinci and Spectrum needs to just get with the times instead of harassing me to try and get me to go back to copper.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >finally got symmetrical gig docsis 3.1 from spectrum
    i'm almost a first worlder now... there's even a contractor running fiber half a mile down the road

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      About to swap my modem from 3.0 to 3.1 lets see how this goes bros

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Humiliation ritual

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Next morning, definitely hitting that gig on the upload but nowhere close on the download

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Still quite nice though.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think they've got me over-provisioned like crazy, those speeds will probably be half of that when I get home from work

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >symmetrical gig docsis 3.1
      Damn Black person I thought you americans were cucked to 1000/30 even with OFDM. What stupidity avoiding running 100 meters of fiber. HFC must be across the street for that kind of speed surely?

      About to swap my modem from 3.0 to 3.1 lets see how this goes bros

      1000/100 is about the practical maximum for Euro 3.0 so expect improvements.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah the fiber is real close but I don't think it will ever actually make it to my house

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick off Black person you are elon musk compared to my i ternet.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >finally get 200/200
    >CS2 ping is 60ms
    It's over

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my ISP is in the same datacenter cluster that valve uses in my region

      2ms ping to my regional CS servers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds nice, if you play valve games anyway

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well it's the largest datacenter cluster in the united states, so basically everything is hosted there.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this is considered good internet in inner suburban Melbourne, Australia
    >you can pay twice as much to make it maybe twice as fast

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's what I had, but our israeli landlord must have got a free upgrade and doubled that. Let us almost be able to play a game locally now..

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >look at latest plans
      >250 mbps offered
      >godawful 20mbps upload only increases by 5mbps

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure the government imposes this on ISPs here to prevent piracy.
        Classic Aussie fashion. I hate the goycattle of this country so much

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My suburb was originally flagged for fiber and then libs happened. Finally got it this year but yeah 1000/50 bullshit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Better than 100/20

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have fiber to my house
    Frick the liberals for ruining the future infrastructure of Australia

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Both parties fricked it up, but yeah the original Labor plan to copy the US's Verizon FTTH rollout would've been the best thing, sure it cost more upfront but the long term benefit would've been massive.

      Now in the US Verizon can upgrade their OLTs and ONTs, keep the existing fiber runs, and upgrade their customers from 1gbps fiber to 10gbps fiber with almost no infrastructure development work (you're just replacing endpoint equipment, not having to lay new fiber runs)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It could be worse. At least they moved away from rolling out FTTN to FTTC early enough before more damage was done. FTTC is much easier to upgrade to full fibre as the copper is only going from a curb side pit every few houses.

        >That being said, I have no idea why the other anon is "sure" you're on fiber, you might be, but you might not be. Nothing about your speedtest indicates if it is or isn't fiber.
        In the UK and Aus "fibre" comes in two forms. Fibre to the cabinent (FTTC) where it terminates at the local phone cabinet and the last stretch is done over regular copper phone lines. It maxes out around 300 from memory. Then there's Fibre to the home / Fibre to the premises (FTTH/FTTP) which is full fibre that termintes in an ONT as you mentioned.

        So effectively you have full fat fibre and I can't believe it's not full fibre. But both are sold as "fibre".

        >Fibre to the cabinent (FTTC)
        Fibre to the curb. See pic related

        FTTC is VDSL from the cabinet to the home. VDSL2+ supervectoring maxes out around 250 down and 100 up. You're unlikely to get faster unless you go "full fat fibre" as you call it, with FTTP, unless they do some black magic to again increase the throughput on copper.

        There's G.fast which gives gigabit over DSL but NBN are opting to replace with full fibre rather than upgrade the DSL parts. Back when NBN was a politically hot topic G.fast was touted as making fibre obsolete, along with 4G and WiFi making the whole NBN thing obsolete.

        What dumbass had the idea to terminate fiber with dsl?

        Saves money not having to deal with arranging someone into everyone's house to do a cable run. Also saved time and got most on board just as the whole work from home thing took off.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Fibre to the curb. See pic related
          This is what we have in the UK.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That would be what NBN call fibre to the node. Big arse cabinets with VDSL DSLAMS that serve however many homes. Those suck because some of those homes had a long enough cable run that killed performance. FTTCurb only has about 100 to 200m and can get full VDSL2 speeds.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol starlink was quicker most of the time and i had 1gbit fiber in bris

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that the frick? is my internet slow? I thought my internet was normal to fast

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You might need a flagship router to give a stronger signal
      I think youre on fiber so the modem is irrelevant

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I think youre on fiber so the modem is irrelevant
        >so the modem is irrelevant
        Elaborate?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fiber doesn't use a modem, it uses an optical network terminal (ONT) connected via fiber to an optical line terminal (OLT).

          The ONT is usually mounted externally on the property, or internally depending on the ISP and their specific network.

          The ONT will usually give the customer a 1gbps Ethernet to connect to the WAN port on their router. Though some ISPs have multi-gig ONTs and occasionally ISPs will use MoCA (though this is pretty rare these days).

          That being said, I have no idea why the other anon is "sure" you're on fiber, you might be, but you might not be. Nothing about your speedtest indicates if it is or isn't fiber.

          And at the end of the day, an ONT as far as laymen are concerned is a fiber modem as it converts fiber to ethernet, just like a DOCSIS modem converts the coax into ethernet.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Remembering that guy on YouTube who had his fiber going directly into his pfsense box
            Lucky bastard

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            comcast in my area used to install their fiber service with an $8000 Juniper edgerouter (normally intended for datacenters, not sure why they used them for customer installs) and it would just give you a direct SFP+ at up to 6gbps. It would also give you a 1gbps ethernet handoff, and then you had to use your own router if you wanted to use the SFP+ drop as they didn't provide customers with an SFP+ capable router.

            But yeah, you were able to just directly attach your own Pfsense box with an SFP+ NIC to the Juniper router and get 5gbps+ when testing to things hosted nearby.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >That being said, I have no idea why the other anon is "sure" you're on fiber, you might be, but you might not be. Nothing about your speedtest indicates if it is or isn't fiber.
            In the UK and Aus "fibre" comes in two forms. Fibre to the cabinent (FTTC) where it terminates at the local phone cabinet and the last stretch is done over regular copper phone lines. It maxes out around 300 from memory. Then there's Fibre to the home / Fibre to the premises (FTTH/FTTP) which is full fibre that termintes in an ONT as you mentioned.

            So effectively you have full fat fibre and I can't believe it's not full fibre. But both are sold as "fibre".

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            FTTC is VDSL from the cabinet to the home. VDSL2+ supervectoring maxes out around 250 down and 100 up. You're unlikely to get faster unless you go "full fat fibre" as you call it, with FTTP, unless they do some black magic to again increase the throughput on copper.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            FTTC isn't limited to 300mbps by any sort of technical limitations unless the copper is just old as frick and they can't be fricked to replace it.

            FTTC with DOCSIS 4.0 for last mile connections should have no problem delivering even multi-gigabit speeds.

            They're just too cheap to invest in modern standards.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >FTTC isn't limited to 300mbps by any sort of technical limitations unless the copper is just old as frick and they can't be fricked to replace it.
            Which it is in the UK and Aus. I live next door to a telephone exchange for my town and despite the fact that they replaced all the internals at the exchange to fibre, the roll out for full fibre broadband was horrifically slow. It was several years later that I got the leaflet through the door that my area was now full fibre capable. It also took the government forever to legislate that all new build projects had to have fibre laid to them instead of copper because the telecoms companies didn't want to invest until it was passed as a legal bill to make them do it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yea but that comes down to beancounters being israelites, not some technical limitation that hasn't been figured out yet.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The first DOCSIS 4.0 modems were certified just a couple months ago, give it some time. Comcast (of all companies) just started to roll it out

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but even DOCSIS 3.0/3.1 would be better than what they have with VDSL.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            DOCSIS is the worst thing that has happened to consumers. made ISPs lazy as frick and it doesn't even work well it there's even a little bit of usage in the area. literal Black personlicious tech (not the actual underlying implementation, that shit is technical wizardry, but no amount of magic can make it less fricking shit in real life usage).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly (V)DSL is even worse. But ISPs and the government can't be fricked to do anything.

            I'm considering buying a 5G router since that'll probably be faster and more reliable than what I get with my current plan. Unlimited and fast mobile plans just have to get a bit cheaper.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >DOCSIS is the worst thing that has happened to consumers
            Nah, ISPs are israelites and are slow to upgrade to new standards, but at least new DOCSIS standards are decent, DSL hasn't seen much development recently and is reaching the end of the line.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes but it made ISPs complacent. here in Canada our main provider in my region (Videotron in Montreal) basically raped us for 15 years with even shittier oversubscribed docsis as they could use their cable infra, and nominally advertise a better Mbps every once in a while. In reality it was absolute cancer at peak times even with 3.1 . then Bell came and actually built fiber, and it's now cheaper than the equivalent dogshit DOCSIS we used to have. full FTTH too

            like why would they build fiber if DOCSIS v1488 just let them advertise some shitty made up peak bandwidth?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and it doesn't even work well it there's even a little bit of usage in the area
            It's because of dogshit 8x4 modems or ISP incompetence. I live in a very dense area, literally picrel, 24x8 can do a constant 1000/100 but it is expensive so 600/60 it is. Still it never slows down, it just shits the bed entirely or just works.
            >but no amount of magic can make it less fricking shit in real life usage
            More channels can and fricking did

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are telephone cables and coaxial cables the same thing? Like when people say "cable" and "DOCSIS", I think of American cable (TV/Internet over coaxial)... which are larger than telephone cables.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Are telephone cables and coaxial cables the same thing?
            No.
            https://blog.frontier.com/2019/07/dsl-vs-cable-vs-fiber-broadband-internet-technologies/
            In Europe, there were some places that used coaxial, but the majority used telephone lines and so the majority are VDSL. Cable was primarily the US and elsewhere. We didn't use cable in the UK because we used satellite (Sky TV being the main provider).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >We didn't use cable in the UK because we used satellite (Sky TV being the main provider).
            There was more than a few attempts at cable TV in the UK, but cost to lay the infrastructure was beaten out by the fact slapping a dish on the side of your house and pointing it the right direction was more affordable.

            Yeah but even DOCSIS 3.0/3.1 would be better than what they have with VDSL.

            That's the fricking truth.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They're not the same thing, but they're both copper based technologies that have similar infrastructure costs.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They're not the same, but the costs are similar, the UK (and other areas of Europe) already had phone lines and DSL cabinets and infrastructure, so instead of replacing it, they just upgraded it. But since it's an older tech that is using less copper, you get worse performance. Unless a big advancement comes in DSL tech again, Europe is going to need to upgrade their infrastructure because they're already hitting the limits of VDSL2+

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Telephone wires are two very thin copper wires, whereas coax is one rather thick and stiff copper wire.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What dumbass had the idea to terminate fiber with dsl?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's what happens when bean counters run companies and not engineers

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Most of europe where VDSL was already commonplace, to save some $$ they decided to just keep upgrading the VDSL cabinets instead of replacing with DOCSIS or upgrading to pure fiber to the home.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Could be worse. My ISP has been full FTTH for over a decade and still offered dialup until 2020. While also offering 1gb/1gb at the same time.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Some people (boomers) just don't like change.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The ONT is usually mounted externally on the property
            What fricking year is it?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            as I said, it depends on the ISP. Verizon still does tons of outdoor ONTs and they've got over 6 million subscribers and are one of the largest fiber ISPs in the US.

            They ALSO do ONTs inside the premises too, but the network was largely built from ~2006-2012 so if you're already in their network and have an externally mounted ONT on your house and your ONT dies, verizon will generally replace it with another exterior mounted ONT instead of running fiber into your house for an ONT inside the premises.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >verizon will generally replace it with another exterior mounted ONT instead of running fiber into your house for an ONT inside the premises.
            Makes sense, no one wants to run/splice more fiber if an existing run is already in place and can be used.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All in one ont-modem solutions are fricking hell if the router sucks ass because then you'll have to fight the ISP in order to use your own equipment (separate ont and router)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >All in one ont-modem solutions are fricking hell if the router sucks ass
            The pictured HG8245Q2 is fine.
            ARMv7 CPU, 256MB RAM 128MB NAND, AR9381 and QCA9880 and the wifi range is seriously good.
            >because then you'll have to fight the ISP in order to use your own equipment (separate ont and router)
            Telekom Srbija will give you your PPPoE creds if you pay for a static IP. I think there was a trick to dump them from the Huawei over telnet, if you are under a CGNAT it's of no use anyway, you won't be hosting shit.
            Frick coax Black folk.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We can get PPPoE creds as well in greece, the problem is that because ftth deployment is kinda new over here, getting the isp to register the SN of your ont is tricky some times (or some isps outright refuse to do it). Which is why most advanced users usually spoof the ont SN on their new equipment with the one of their old.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Also most isps here have extremely convoluted voip configurations which usually require DHCP option 61 on the client call, a thing that most cheap voip devices dont support.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have never, ever, ever heard of someone making ISP VoIP work with their own equipment. You gotta use the fricking phone jacks on their unit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >getting the isp to register the SN of your ont is tricky some times (or some isps outright refuse to do it). Which is why most advanced users usually spoof the ont SN on their new equipment with the one of their old.
            You don't need to do it here at all, plug your router into the Huawei combo unit and that logs into PPPoE, the Huawei doesn't route shit anymore.

            Virgin does symmetric as an addon package

            God I wish TS had that. They used to have a fricking "upload booster" option in the earlier days of ADSL it's not even unprecedented for them!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      absolute state of that loaded latency

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wait is that why I get random 300 ping spikes in CS and get insane rubberbanding even when it shows low ping

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes

          Upgrade your router

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            maybe, it could be a number of things. i recommend buying a router yourself instead of the underpowered ISP provided one. Bonus points if it has queueing like fq_codel or cake
            https://www.bufferbloat.net/

            any router reccs?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Look for a tier list. I like Asus. They mesh.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          maybe, it could be a number of things. i recommend buying a router yourself instead of the underpowered ISP provided one. Bonus points if it has queueing like fq_codel or cake
          https://www.bufferbloat.net/

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and this helpful video to understand, if this is what you're experiencing

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          maybe, it could be a number of things. i recommend buying a router yourself instead of the underpowered ISP provided one. Bonus points if it has queueing like fq_codel or cake
          https://www.bufferbloat.net/

          https://youtu.be/LjJW_s5gQ9Y
          and this helpful video to understand, if this is what you're experiencing

          https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat

          This is the best bufferbloat test.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            For those running pfSense this is a good guide. Just keep decreasing the upload/download limits until you go below 5ms at least.
            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/codel-limiters.html

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Make sure you aren't using a cat 5 cable bro. The fact that you're just sitting at 100mbs dl/ul makes me think you're using an old ethernet cable. Get a cat 5e or newet. It's weird to have a symetrical 100/100. Most telcos offer 250/250 as their base fiber speed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What are you paying for and is what is pictured in line with what you're paying for? If not and it should be faster, then like

      Make sure you aren't using a cat 5 cable bro. The fact that you're just sitting at 100mbs dl/ul makes me think you're using an old ethernet cable. Get a cat 5e or newet. It's weird to have a symetrical 100/100. Most telcos offer 250/250 as their base fiber speed.

      said, change all your cables to Cat 5e or Cat 6. If you're on wireless then you'll want the latest wireless standard to make the most of the bandwidth.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just remember that just because your router has fast wifi doesn't mean the device you're using to connect to the wifi is capable of those speeds.

        A 4x4 802.11AX router for example isn't going to give you more than ~600mbps at MOST when connecting with a device that only has a single wifi antenna. You need a device with 2x2, 3x3, or 4x4 antennas to properly take advantage of a routers capabilities.

        Many cell phones and laptops, especially cheaper ones use 1x1 wifi cards which will be the limiting factor even if your router supports crazy fast speeds.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Good point. Forgot about that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Make sure you aren't using a cat 5 cable bro. The fact that you're just sitting at 100mbs dl/ul makes me think you're using an old ethernet cable. Get a cat 5e or newet. It's weird to have a symetrical 100/100. Most telcos offer 250/250 as their base fiber speed.

        Im supposed to have verizon gigabit (advertised as up to 940 mbps) and Im on wifi on the router they provided
        the router is in the basement and Im on the first floor in a small <1000 sqft ranch house, I was concerned about it being in the basement but the person who installed it (a woman) said the router is powerful enough that it shouldnt matter that its in the basement

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just buy a mesh system or some repeaters. 5g wifi works like shit between floors. 2.4 will be fine. If you're on unified all your shit is going to steer to the 2.4 band

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I live in the boonies and wouldnt trade it for any speed.
    23.39 up1.55 down

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I also live in the boonies and have pic related. RDOF was the best thing to happen to rural america in a long time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        OS MASTER

        howdy, neighbor

      • 4 weeks ago
        OS MASTER

        howdy, neighbor

        forgot pic

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >that ping
          Gross, I bet you live in Nashville
          Captcha: ATTV

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            att fiber still sucks?

          • 4 weeks ago
            OS MASTER

            ew no, too many Black folk and too expensive (however that works out)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        forgot pic

        lmao

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the test ID doesn't reveal your IP, it only shows the IP on the first view, if you load up that same page in another tab it'll just show the result without your IP address info.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            lmao

            or add .png after the web address to get a nice single condensed image.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this also works for mobile speedtest results on android/ios, though with a slightly different web address you still just have to add .png after it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          pussy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        forgot pic

        ft campbell Black folk get off my cemc fiber

        • 4 weeks ago
          OS MASTER

          go to war Black person

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            go die in a trench in israelitekraine?
            only army Black folk and college kids live in clarksville

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fellow Columbusgay here, my Spectrum has been slow as wieners recently, maybe due to all the shitty weather? Beats the frick out of using AT&T (or fricking Wow Internet) though.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Calix > Plume

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was going to ignore this thread, thinking OP was just humble baiting.
    Seeing the other replies... the situation is grim.

    This is my internet. Australia. A nice suburb too.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the situation is grim.
      It took the UK government officially legislating that any new builds had to have fibre laid to them rather than copper line to see us start to catch up with the rest of the world in internet speeds. And roll out to old areas has trundled along like an old horse and cart. Otherwise the telecoms companies were in no hurry to spend the money to upgrade.

      https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/the-product-security-and-telecommunications-infrastructure-psti-bill-factsheets

      And we're still not going to hit our target for fibre for all by next year. Which isn't a surprise since the government has failed on every big infrastructure project they've implemented (such as HS2 being the biggest known one).

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Our government mandated copper for new installations after the previous one invested $50b in fibre infrastructure that's now mostly sitting in flooded ditches or still on spools on the roadside never to be connected to anything. Pic related is what $55/mo buys you.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Whereas they've now spent as much or more on copper when if they'd spent that money on fiber again you guys would've had FTTP/H across the nation.

          NBN could've been great, the US ISP the original NBN was based on is still operating great in the US offering gigabit speeds to their entire footprint and multi-gig speeds in New York.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This is my internet. Australia. A nice suburb too.
      Fixed Wireless or FTTN? If it's FTTN upload is under spec and needs to be fixed. But that depends on node length.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        with 12ms ping it's unlikely to be fixed wireless, though i guess it's possible.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        FTTN
        Used to have Fixed Wireless through Pentanet. It was good for a few years but as soon as we had service issues they cancelled on us. Villainous company.

        I am just a cursed individual. No other human has had internet troubles as bad as me.
        >dial-up internet stopped being supported before broadband was available.
        >absolute nightmare and eventual failure trying to get some basic copper internet
        >A new company (forgotten name, they are gone now) is offering 3G internet.
        >it does not work, we cannot get a signal at all
        >We get satellite internet, paid for by the local government.
        >It is slower than the old dial-up, so basically only usable for email. A very consistent 800ms ping, basically no packet loss.
        >A new company, Vivid Wireless is offering 3G internet.
        >It works okay outside of peak hours, for a few years. Service gets worse and worse, eventually just a constant 80% packet loss.
        >A new company Pentanet, is offering Fixed Wireless.
        >These 2 years were the golden age. In 2018 I learned what it is was like to play a videogame with only 150ms ping, and what is like to stream 720p video.
        >Suddenly packet loss spiked to over 70% and stayed there. Pentanet cancelled us instead of trying to resolve it.
        >only a month of using phone for internet. 4G is out now and I an almost get a usable signal from inside our house.
        >In 2021 we are finally able to get a copper cable. Service by Optus.
        >Up until this year, service was a fraction of that speedtest result. I think it wasn't even Fiber to the Node yet.
        >As of 2024, service is a consistent 10Mb up, 4Mb down. FTTN upgrade complete.
        FTTP has been offered to residents in my area since April.
        I've had mine installed through AussieBroadband. The works are set to complete tomorrow, as long as there are no complications. (There were complications so far. That's why it has taken almost 2 months.)

        Praying it works and I am finally free.

        I will forever hold this hatred in my heart.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This is my internet. Australia. A nice suburb too.
      Fixed Wireless or FTTN? If it's FTTN upload is under spec and needs to be fixed. But that depends on node length.

      >the situation is grim.
      It took the UK government officially legislating that any new builds had to have fibre laid to them rather than copper line to see us start to catch up with the rest of the world in internet speeds. And roll out to old areas has trundled along like an old horse and cart. Otherwise the telecoms companies were in no hurry to spend the money to upgrade.

      https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/the-product-security-and-telecommunications-infrastructure-psti-bill-factsheets

      And we're still not going to hit our target for fibre for all by next year. Which isn't a surprise since the government has failed on every big infrastructure project they've implemented (such as HS2 being the biggest known one).

      Our government mandated copper for new installations after the previous one invested $50b in fibre infrastructure that's now mostly sitting in flooded ditches or still on spools on the roadside never to be connected to anything. Pic related is what $55/mo buys you.

      FTTN
      Used to have Fixed Wireless through Pentanet. It was good for a few years but as soon as we had service issues they cancelled on us. Villainous company.

      I am just a cursed individual. No other human has had internet troubles as bad as me.
      >dial-up internet stopped being supported before broadband was available.
      >absolute nightmare and eventual failure trying to get some basic copper internet
      >A new company (forgotten name, they are gone now) is offering 3G internet.
      >it does not work, we cannot get a signal at all
      >We get satellite internet, paid for by the local government.
      >It is slower than the old dial-up, so basically only usable for email. A very consistent 800ms ping, basically no packet loss.
      >A new company, Vivid Wireless is offering 3G internet.
      >It works okay outside of peak hours, for a few years. Service gets worse and worse, eventually just a constant 80% packet loss.
      >A new company Pentanet, is offering Fixed Wireless.
      >These 2 years were the golden age. In 2018 I learned what it is was like to play a videogame with only 150ms ping, and what is like to stream 720p video.
      >Suddenly packet loss spiked to over 70% and stayed there. Pentanet cancelled us instead of trying to resolve it.
      >only a month of using phone for internet. 4G is out now and I an almost get a usable signal from inside our house.
      >In 2021 we are finally able to get a copper cable. Service by Optus.
      >Up until this year, service was a fraction of that speedtest result. I think it wasn't even Fiber to the Node yet.
      >As of 2024, service is a consistent 10Mb up, 4Mb down. FTTN upgrade complete.
      FTTP has been offered to residents in my area since April.
      I've had mine installed through AussieBroadband. The works are set to complete tomorrow, as long as there are no complications. (There were complications so far. That's why it has taken almost 2 months.)

      Praying it works and I am finally free.

      I will forever hold this hatred in my heart.

      i FINALLYL GOT IT
      FREE FREE AT LAST

      i have actual tears in my eyes

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just got mine doubled for free today, regional vic

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are travel routers a meme? Been thinking about investing in one, because most hotels I've been in don't have either wifi repeaters or the signal sucks balls. Also I get to stop the morons from the other hotel rooms to mess with the smart TV I'm using.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By travel router, do you mean a device that is a 4/5G mobile hotspot. If so just use your phone

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It would be nice to have a 6G hotspot, but I believe that might just be overkill since I always travel with a family.

        I live in a tiny flat and use the GL.iNet AXT1800 which is tucked away with the draytek modem down the back of the TV cabinet and it's great. Covers the entire place. Otherwise I just use my phone as a hotspot when travelling. I considered on of GL.iNET routers that take sims, but honestly, using a phone that takes two sims and using the second sim and phone as my travel router works just as well. I have seen GL.iNET sim routers become popular with van lifers though.

        I've been camping a lot recently, but it makes it harder to work when it takes forever to upload stuff due the lack of mobile coverage. And I just figured out that maybe using it as a wifi repeater or if I'm lucky enough, as a personal router if I happen to encounter an ethernet port.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I've been camping a lot recently
          When I was looking for GL.iNET reviews, this was one that popped up.

          I imagine it'll cover you in most places unless you're going into the absolute middle of nowhere, in which case starlink or some other satellite provider and hardware would be the best option. But you're really have to be off the beaten track not to get cell service in most places.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've been considering GL.iNet routers though, but seems that video cleared most of my doubts. Much appreciated anon.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          6g range will basically be line of sight at supposedly 7-100ghz. There is no way it will work outside of cities. 5g only goes to 6ghz and that already reduces the range from each tower. They're supposedly trying to spin the radio waves to get them to go further but all I have seen is directional shit, think yagi. If they can set that up it would improve fixed wireless and make star link look like dogshit for people in remote areas. But I'm not sold on 6g cell service until I see more on wtf it's actually supposed to be. It seems like all the companies are researching different shit right now.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            5g and 4g and 3g are also all clusterfricks with ill defined meaning

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I live in a tiny flat and use the GL.iNet AXT1800 which is tucked away with the draytek modem down the back of the TV cabinet and it's great. Covers the entire place. Otherwise I just use my phone as a hotspot when travelling. I considered on of GL.iNET routers that take sims, but honestly, using a phone that takes two sims and using the second sim and phone as my travel router works just as well. I have seen GL.iNET sim routers become popular with van lifers though.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I get 80 download 8 upload

    homie you have sub gigabit internet shut the frick up

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    R*ssia

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    25/25gbit or 10/10gbit is really pretty decent.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1025 megabytes/s and 3125 megabytes/s..... are we sure they aren't giving you 1024 and 3072 and lying with the rounding and using gigaBITs? Motherfricking israelites be honest.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The I3 tiling WM / former Debian dev built a 25gbit build & did a speedtest: https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2022-04-23-fiber7-25gbit-upgrade/#speedtest

        Also somewhere in there is linkage to the cost calculation on the ISP's side, they published them. Perhaps good information to smack your municipal/national govt with.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Speed thread? This is advertised as 1 Gbps. Then again, I'm on laptop and it's beyond the minimum of 200 Mbps. It's 9$ a month.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If over WiFi, that's expected unless you're standing right next to your router.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am two feet away, yeah. That's why I expected better.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If the laptop only has a 1x1 or 2x2 wifi card, then that's also reasonable.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty, late but yeah, it's a 2x2 card. Thanks for the input kind stranger.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yea 2x2 802.11ac maxes out around 600mbps in real world use.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *up to 1gbps
      I'm paying $90 a month for maximum 11 mbps.
      You aren't being fricked nearly as rough as you think.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I frequently check the map at thinkbroadband to see if an alternate fibre provider has become available in my area as I'm fed up of Incel Media being the only decent option. I tried having a cheaper FTTC option for a while but games and downloading virtual machines took way too long. It sucks that 66% of the UK has FTTP but my part of the city is the only part without it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They really scam you on upload speed and only having ipv4. Plus this is on the old DOCSIS network instead of their new Nexfibre network they are building in new areas.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >only having ipv4
        Do they have an IPV6 road map at least?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No public one and they've been actively been hostile to people who want ipv6 including slowing down tunnels. See

          https://www.havevirginmediaenabledipv6yet.co.uk/

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Considering they closed the IPV6 megathread on their forums a few months ago, that could mean deployment is imminent.

            It took my ISP around 10-12 years from when they announced dualstack IPV4/6 implementation to when it ACTUALLY got implemented for customers. And when it did eventually get deployed, it was a slow rollout that took 2 or 3 years.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My ISP offers 2gbps download with 45mbps upload, so at least you're getting 100mbps upload.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pretty similar here in MN, also on Spectrum, the lower upload speed is annoying

    For those of you posting shitty speeds, why not go with Starlink? It's got fast internet and is available everywhere.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick you all. i pay $90 a month for this fricking shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Starlink is $120 a month for 100mbs, I would look into it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >satellite internet
        This is an old meme. I used to live even farther out in the boonies, and looked into whatever the prevailing sat tech was at the time. It was clearly a scam. All speeds had an asterisk, and inevitably you'd be billed for data on top of the flat rate.
        >Associating with a Musk company
        I just can't. Dude's an antiethical douche whose list of priorities doesn't contain "satisfied customers."

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lol the old geostationary satellite internet companies are shit, but Starlink is entirely different tech and is good. If you want to keep suffering 3rd world internet speeds because of some weird political stance on Musk then ok I guess, I find it weird when people let their politics take over their lives like that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >politics take over their lives like that.
            wtf are you talking about. Dude isn't trustworthy. I don't want to get $700 + bucks invested into equipment costs just for him to pull some homosexual shit and require new equipment in 6 months.

            Under the strictest definition of "politics" it is my "policy" not to lose money to conmen. At some point you're going to have to realize that idolizing conmen, grifters, traitors, and liars isn't a political stance but a failure in personal judgment and the most impotent form of edgelording.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't idolize anyone, all the top tech billionaires are scummy pieces of shit, I'm just annoyed that everyone's focused on hating on Musk while still buying things from Amazon and using Windows and forgetting all the scummy things Bezos and Gates have done, honestly at this point I don't care who makes the tech as long as it's good I will just use it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >top tech billionaires are scummy pieces of shit
            fact
            >windows/amazon
            I've minimized my Amazon use. We canceled Prime after their second (?) price hike. I think if that bald frick wants to launch dick rockets to the Moon he can do it without my help.
            Microsoft is a spyware company and I hate their ass, but Windows is more practical than any flavor of Linux, and no amount of me being mad about it changes that. I've been trying make Linux my default OS for nearly 20 years, and somewhere in hour 6 of typing nonsense into a black screen to fix a problem I didn't break and should have been default, I just push away and wipe the partition.

            tl;dr- I'm trying to have ethics, but it isn't always easy.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nah with those numbers if you care about internet speed at all, get starlink.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Richardson is a suburb of Dallas
      Wtf. I thought you lived in the middle of nowhere. How is that possible?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm actually in Arkansas.
        AT&T is a moron homosexual thief company.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They'll give you fiber eventually. The frick do you expect from dsl

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Europe seems to have no problems delivering 50-100mbps on DSL.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Europe seems to have no problems delivering 50-100mbps on DSL.
            Yes, 100mbit was around 15 years ago in 2009 (asymmetric 100/20 or 100/10 most of the time).

            It was pretty fast then and I think there were even 250mbit offers a few years later, but I prefer the current fiber rollout with its 1/1 10/10 25/25gbit.

            There's also a story how the respective cable operator just was not doing well after being purchased by an international conglomerate and the local fiber operators cared a lot more.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Currently paying $1020 dollars doos over a year for 50/20, previous provider has offered 3 months free if I switch back, only switched because there was no way to get off cgnat, but now they offer static IP which would get me off it

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have the standard britbong 80/20 setup and while 80 down is perfectly livable for me, the 20 up really fricks with my self hosted stuff and I'm gasping for more. My exchange is listed as being "planned" for FTTP rollout at least, but you just know it's going to take years to happen and even when it does it'll be over 9000 down and 50 up because frick you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bongistan is such a husk. The fabians really raped your country.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tf is that DL to UL speed ratio, is that even allowed there?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Comcast (Xfinity) has 2gbps down with the same 45mbps upload cap.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They only do that to force business that host to pay more. There is no reason for it in terms of technology, it's an artificial restriction.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >artificial restriction
        Just like how cellphone plans used to charge for minutes and texts but unlimited data and now charge for data but unlimited minutes and texts

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I may have the greatest DOCSIS 3.0 in the world (can even do 1000/100) but I am still mad that it's not fiber.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let me guess, you *need* more?

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh well. Not sure if changing to a gigabit router would help much since I don't have fibre installed.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have less that 1mbps on both upload and download.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >want to lost speedtest results
    >website takes 2 mins to load
    >click to start
    >stuck for at least a minute
    svffermaxxing rn

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    🙁

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do I know if I'm being throttled by isp

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      vpn a/b testing

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any recs? Cheap and fast are the priority. I don't care if you can't torrent or privacy isn't guaranteed by a dozen independent audits

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          always been a fan of mullvad

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sure there are cheaper services

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally unusable, anon

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've learnt to live with the pain

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That latency is wild

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    29 euro for asymmetric 200 ffth is expensive but thats just how the ISP cartel runs this shit here in greece.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I live in KY. Don't even ask me what my down speed is.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    at least i learned that even if you're stuck with a cable ISP you don't have to deal with bufferbloat... and all it took was an x86 router with openwrt + sqm + cake + cake-autorate

    also i hate encoding video for this website

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Give a try on fq_codel. I get better performance with it on MikroTik at least

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i'm noticing that oddly the speed test traffic is getting tagged as voice on download, and the rest above the threshold is getting dumped into the bulk bin. that might have something to do with the more varied ping in the download results. i should probably just wash diffserv on downlink. shaping overhead isn't an issue in my case with cake since i've got a quad core to work with

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nevermind it's 5 am i'm hallucinating and that's not how diffserv works

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >even if you're stuck with a cable ISP you don't have to deal with bufferbloat...
      What?
      >and all it took was an x86 router with openwrt + sqm + cake + cake-autorate
      How many dicks did you suck to get bridge mode?
      I get these stupid gifts but I never get bridge mode.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bufferbloat is what causes your ping to spike when your internet under load (downloading or uploading). all of those other things allow me to have dynamic QoS so i can keep ping down whether i'm loading my network myself or my isp is overloaded since docsis is shared with your neighbors. i've noticed at certain times of day upload especially can't hit the 60 mbps provisioned, so cake-autorate will dynamically set the shaper rate to highest speed possible without ping spiking. it does so by pinging various dns servers 20 times per second.

        as far as bridge mode, i just got my ISP to allow me to use my own modem, so I'm using a Netgear CM1000-1AZNAS which is as basic as it gets

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >i just got my ISP to allow me to use my own modem
          'Mericans really can do shit like this and then complain... I have the choice between 2 chinky modems both terrible and completely cucked. Bridge mode was simply wiped from the software by the ISP.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah most american DOCSIS ISPs just don't give a frick what equipment you use, they'll also refuse to provide any sort of technical support if you're using your own router/modem though.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            pretty much, if anything goes wrong you have to fight to prove it's not on you

            Shit dude those are half off on Amazon right now

            the renewed/refurb one is perpetually half off, i spent 99$ on it over 2 years ago. hard to complain though since it has worked perfectly fine

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shit dude those are half off on Amazon right now

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Right I'm ready to burn Australia, if it wasn't already burnt, but I would've put the Kola's on a boat and pushed it out, but the Indonesians wouldn't have taken'em..

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      50mbps isnt amazing, but it's not terrible either.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why do you need more? you have a datacenter in your home?

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Supposedly I might be getting an upgrade from 100 to 300 mbps but haven't seen any change. Shall see though.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My ISP has been giving me 300-330mbps for years when I only pay for 200mbps.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm on spectrum but it was an old time warner cable plan but they sent notice that the plan is changing and spectrum's lowest seems to be 300 according to their website.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Update: I did notice we got channels on cable (yes we still have the cable tv don't bully) that we didn't before but the internet is still showing 100meg even after resetting so ether they aren't changing that or that takes longer to do than unlocking tv channels. Really have no idea. Modem's docsis 3 so should be able to handle that.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is using an x86 PC as a router a good idea? I thought routers needed to be on superfast routing hardware or something.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, it's a good idea. Your average X86 box has way more power than the shitty ARM SOCs most routers use.

      Since you're building it yourself it can be as good/bad as you want it to be depending on your budget too. You can build in some room for future proofing or upgrades, later down the line.

      This plucky box uses an ASUS ROG STRIX B550-I GAMING motherboard and a ASUS XG-C100C PCI-E Network Interface Card (this was the cheapest 10 gigabit NIC I could buy at the time) connecting to my TP-LINK T1700G-28TQ JetStream switch.

      This is all consumer hardware and it mostly works great.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does it have to be a dedicated router? Will using the PC as HTPC + router or NAS + router or home server + router make routing too slow? I want the lowest possible overhead for routing.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't have to be dedicated, but you'll obviously need enough hardware horsepower to handle whatever bandwidth you pay for.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    computre

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man, I remember dial up. I was happy when I finally recieved 60Mb down and it doesn't take a week to download 7GB.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nowadays download is aplenty, the issue is upload bandwidth.

      Outside of torrenting and game downloads I really don't need gigabit down.

      I do however need considerably more upload bandwidth than the poultry 100mb/s my ISP gives me.

      I'd be happy to swap the upload/download around (100mb/s down is plenty) but we all know how most ISPs would feel about that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The vast majority of consumers would disagree with that opinion.

        Most people only give a shit about download speed and would happily trade upload performance for more download performance as long as they didn't notice any slow downs from that lack of upload performance in their day to day usage, which most people wouldn't as long as you're at least getting ~50mbps up.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's because they've been brainwashed by advertisements telling them that "more speed == better" when in reality outside of a few usecases you're never even using that bandwidth. It's just sitting there.

          Latency is more important and its a known fact that that tends to take nosedive when you have a heavy household all uploading pictures to the cloud, streaming 4K video, playing online games, seeding torrents (not just downloading), etc.

          Upload bandwidth is more important now than it has ever been before.

          Download bandwidth is rarely touched in most cases. I have monitoring for this on my own network and can see when its being heavily used. I rarely max out that gigabit of download bandwidth except in synthetic speed tests.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is horseshit.

            I have 6tb download traffic a month with barely 500GB upload.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can't upload when your upload speeds are so slow, so of course you don't have much uploaded.

            I download a lot, like most others, but I'd be happier with a 500/500 connection compared to something like the 1000/120 I have right now. Yeah, it'd take a bit longer to download games and the speedtest results wouldn't look as good but the bump in upload bandwidth would more than make up for that.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have gigabit upload

            Modern DOCSIS 4.0 should be capable of gigabit upload speeds, if the ISP cared to offer it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then you just don't use it. I am constantly running into scenarios where I am bottlenecked by my 100 meg up. I even had to set my managed switch to drop packets after 100mb/s traffic flows through it because otherwise I would get excessive buffering.

            I'd be laughing if I had 1000mb/s up.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Like I fricking said, 99% of people don't need it, and frankly would never trade their download speed for it.

            You're one of a few who would, so sucks to be you, but you're the minority by a massive amount.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, most don't think about it until they're doing a big backup, or streaming, etc.

            Big ISPs have brainwashed people into being mindless consumers that only want to DOWNLOAD MOAR. People don't even think about their upload bandwidth until they actually use it (sometimes inadvertently so in the case of things like online backups).

            Most ISPs don't even mention upload bandwidth in their marketing, it's all about downloading which is quite frankly shocking.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lmao just admit you're one of the few people who cares. That's it.

            There isn't some imaginary need that everyone has but just isn't being fulfilled because they lack upload performance.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Online backups aren't imaginary.
            Streaming isn't imaginary.
            Sharing files isn't imaginary.

            The reason most people don't do these things is because they can't. The connection most people have physically can't sustain it. It'd be alright if everyone had gigabit up like you.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Even with gigabit up though, you still might reach a bottleneck if you have good hardware.

            NVMe drives are stupidly fast nowadays so you could easily bring your connection to a crawl by doing a big backup. You can't physically shift the data fast enough. If you have multiple people in your household it's even worse.
            This has always been the case with every bump in storage technology though, only now it's much worse because your drive is 10-100x faster than your Internet.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's arguably a good thing though. You don't want uploads using 100% of your disk read speed, then you can't use your computer while uploading something. And on the receiving end same thing, download shouldn't saturate the disk. Disk read/write should always be faster than upload/download.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I/O schedulers will throttle this nicely but even if it only uses half of the available I/O speed, if you have two people in your household both doing big backups at the same time then the effect on your connection is the same anyway.

            We are producing more data now than ever before. The fact that nobody gives a frick about any of this is not a good thing. People should care more, I'll concede with you that most don't though. I wish they would. At the very least symmetrical connections should become the norm, and if most people don't use it then there should be no issue with increasing speeds for people "for free".

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No the reason most people don't do those things is because most people simply don't give a frick.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A lot of people have automatic backups turned on for things like their photos and videos, actually.

            You are right though, a substantial amount of people do not know how to look after their data properly because they do not give a frick. Data recovery specialists make a fortune off of them when their $THING inevitably dies.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >A lot of people have automatic backups turned on for things like their photos and videos, actually.
            Yes, and outside an initial backup, would largely be a few hundred megabytes at most per day uploaded.

            Why the frick are you convinced the average person is just RARING to upload 4k/8k movies to the cloud every day and the only thing holding them back is their upload speed?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not an everyday occurrence, no, just like people's gigabit download mostly goes unused the majority of the day. The problem is more that people have no way to address it. ISPs pretend it's not an issue and there's not enough competition outside of a handle of altnets in certain specific areas.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Again, you're just grossly overestimating the average persons needs because YOU personally need it.

            The average person doesn't give a frick about upload bandwidth and if they had 1gbps upload bandwidth tomorrow and you didn't tell them, then waited a year and watched how their online habits changed, you'd notice NO FRICKING DIFFERENCE at all.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People do give a frick, they just can't do anything about it.

            Maybe you are a single person living on your own and don't have to deal with multiple people on your network but that's not everyone.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lmao no, YOU give a frick.

            I literally manage an office internet connection and for 10 employees we have 200/200mbps and we barely even need that, we could easily have 100/100mbps and it would be fine.

            My home internet is 1gbps fiber and the only reason I have it is for the download speeds.

            And again, I have 6TB/month of personal traffic at home, work traffic for 10 employees is less than 1.5TB/month.

            Unless you're regularly working on 100GB+ projects in the cloud, you simply don't need gigabit upload performance.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Unless you're regularly working on 100GB+ projects in the cloud, you simply don't need gigabit upload performance.
            So what do I do if I am?

            There isn't really an option. I've been considering experimenting with multiple WANs and using Multipath TCP but it'd be a lot easier if I could just pay somebody more money for a better connection (a foreign concept to most ISPs I know).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Again, like I said, i'm not saying your needs don't exist and I'm not saying people like you aren't around, simply the AVERAGE adult is not in that group, and so the AVERAGE internet connection also isn't going to focus on upload bandwidth.

            Even on my fiber connection it's 1gbps service, but the connection itself is GPON shared with a few of my neighbors and the GPON link is only 2.4gbps download with 1.2gbps upload, and that gets split to 4 to 8 homes. So even on a fiber connection, technically they've only got HALF the upload bandwidth as download, but because 99% customers don't really use the upload bandwidth, even though they only have an aggregate 1.2Gbps for 8 households, all 8 households can have 1gbps service since the likelihood of 2 households BOTH uploading heavily simultaneously is low, and even if they are, they're likely limited by the destination server or a peering connection in-between where you'll get throttled well below 1Gbps anyway.

            The solution as much as you don't want to hear it, is to move, or pay a frick ton of money to get a fiber line installed.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The solution as much as you don't want to hear it, is to move, or pay a frick ton of money to get a fiber line installed.
            That's too expensive for something that's not a daily occurrence. I already have fibre but like you it's not a dedicated line, it's GPON and the split is considerably worse than what you get because ISPs are greedy and want to maximise the amount of subscribers they can serve.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you can ask your ISP if they can install another OLT split with just you on it. But it sounds like your ISP might tell you to frick off, even if you offered to pay.

            But yeah, my ISP is already upgrading their backhaul fiber to NG-PON2 for future multi-gig service upgrades and they already don't like putting gigabit customers on crowded OLTs so they'll install a new OLT if they need it.

            My neighborhood for example has ~20 1:8 GPON splits, but they've got a 72 strand fiber so they could easily install another 20-30 GPON splits if they wanted to buy the OLT hardware and do the splices, but instead their replacing the GPON OLTs with NG-PON2 OLTs that are backwards compatible with GPON ONTs so customer facing equipment doesn't have to change.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like your ISP is smart. I don't see mine switching away from GPON anytime soon. I just have to wait for their competitor to roll out multi-gig everywhere.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well they fricked up with BPON in the early days of fiber, ended up having to rip it all out and replace it with GPON, so now instead of moving to XGS-PON (10gbps both down and up) like AT&T and others have done (since they don't have older GPON networks to support), they're upgrading to NG-PON2 (10gbps per light wavelength, higher-end ONTs can use 4 or even up to 8 wavelengths to allow up to 40gbps or 80gbps (per fiber strand) service in the future) which is backwards compatible with GPON. So they can keep their customers with 1gbps (or slower) speeds on old GPON ONTs/routers and upgrade multi-gig customers to NG-PON2 ONTs when they need to.

            So much more flexible for long term deployment and growth.

            Meanwhile AT&T with XGS-PON has 25GS-PON as a potential upgrade path which is only 25/25gbps. And is still in the very early days of the standard being defined. Or Higher Speed PON (HSP) which is 50gbps capable and is similarly new and no ISPs currently use it outside of some testing runs.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Maybe you are a single person living on your own
            That is the default lifestyle of the average human, nobody want destroy his/her/they own life with a useless marriage and stupid kids

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how much do ISPs even save by offering only 1/20th of the download speed for uploads?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a bottleneck issue on cable and dsl but is completely arbitrary for fiber. For fiber it's just decoy pricing.

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A few days ago my computer stopped being able to pass cloudfare check, phone is alright, where the frick do I even begin trying to debug this? It happens with every browser, if it's a website that can wiener block you completely with cloudfare then it'll say it's trying to check you but never finish. On IQfy the captcha will never lose, you click the checkbox it spins for a bit and then it gives you another captcha prompt to checkbox mark without ever actually loading the captcha

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Despite my ISP's name, it does not in fact suck wieners. I cannot imagine having something slower these days. It would be miserable. And I grew up with dialup! The things you can get used to is amazing. It also is nice to have good speeds since I live in the US and pirating movies/tv shows requires a VPN (unless I was to get a letter in the mail), so this speed at least allows for decent speeds when throttled by VPN nonsense when I'm downloading those things.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A powerful enough router could offload the VPN overhead, you'll still be limited by the VPN server throughput, but at least you remove local processing overhead from your computer.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I see. Luckily, I only use it for minutes at a time since I don't download those things that often. But if I ever did need to use a VPN more long-term, I would look into something like this.

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tfw starling
    >Starlink loses signal to the satellite for a millisecond
    >Wifi on every device in the house turns off for a minute and then comes back
    Is there an explanation for this? I tried using a third party router and static DHCP and that didn't help at all so it can't be an IP address thing

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it hopping between WiFi and mobile data? Phones try to be "smart" but this connection hopping is more trouble than its worth in my experience. Particularly, if you want to access resources on your LAN while your WAN is down and you have no Internet.

      Android needs to be smarter there, and somehow stay connected to the WiFi but use mobile data for Internet access.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah phones do hop off the starlink wifi and go to cellular, the PCs (Windows) lose their wifi connection as well and just go offline
        Not really sure what to do about it, I'm hoping other people have this issue but I haven't seen much chatter online

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the PCs (Windows) lose their wifi connection as well and just go offline
          That's probably just them being stupid.
          >Whoops! The Internet has gone, better disconnect everything and try again!

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My brother is moving house in London. The new place he's looking at, has gigabit internet for £26.00 per month.

    c**t.

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How powerful of a router do I need for 1g/1g cake queuing? I feel like my mikrotik hap ax3 isn't handling it, but I haven't isolated it to the cpu performance alone

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A Raspberry Pi 4 can handle Cake at 1 gig. If Mikrotik isn't cutting it then their hardware is truly shit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How powerful of a router do I need for 1g/1g cake queuing? I feel like my mikrotik hap ax3 isn't handling it, but I haven't isolated it to the cpu performance alone

        I also wouldn't bother running Cake on your download traffic. It's not worth it and is more of a hack.

        Run it on the upstream interface only.

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >48 Mbps download
    >19 Mbps upload

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