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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No no, you see anon, it's the Father who sends you to hell, the Son saves you, they're not the same person (although they are both God), so it's fine

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not Jesus that's gonna mess you up, it's the Holy Ghost because no forgiveness and all that… so… that means like… us… society and stuff and the elements and stuff, God who lives in people type situation.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's there to refute?

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Enter: Arius

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Arius was not a psilanthropist.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And? His theology still completely refutes the message of OP’s meme because Arian Jesus and Arian Yahweh are two different people of different minds.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Arian Jesus is divine being that is formless, intangible, incorporeal, compositeless, etc. through whom God created and sustains everything. He is one will with God.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never refuted

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is there to refute? All features of the Gospel narratives are derived from pre-exilic and exilic prophecies about the Anointed One. Saying Christianity drew from Greco-Roman mythology just shows the mediocre intelligence of those who propound such theories as they cannot parse the obvious Second Temple Judaism and Hebraic OT context of the milieu from which Christianity emerged. Ironically it's just perpetuating the Protestant hysteria about Hellenistic influences in Catholicism in a secular form by searching for the antecedents of Christian theology in Greco-Roman narratives as opposed to ancient Judaism itself, hence deranged delusions about the Eucharist, even though the real presence in the Eucharist is just the logical conclusion of the fact that sacrifices in the OT were eaten by the sacerdotal priesthood.

      Not to mention that it's dubious that people in the Greek East would have been perfectly familiar with *Latin* histories and mythologies. Compare the historical narrative of a Livy about the constitutional changes brought about Augustus as a continuation and not abrogation of the old Roman Republic, with the frank admission of a Cassius Dio writing for a Greek audience that Augustus had instituted something akin to the monarchies that the Hellenes were used to.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Saying Christianity drew from Greco-Roman mythology just shows the mediocre intelligence of those who propound such theories as they cannot parse the obvious Second Temple Judaism and Hebraic OT context of the milieu from which Christianity emerged.
        Lol

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mythicism always leads to Dan Brown-tier conspiracy theories, just look at Caesar's Messiah.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I imagine life must be quite difficult with an IQ of 90.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >projecting
            Say something obviously moronic again and you will get the same response.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >le thing is... le similar
            I guess John F. Kennedy was based on Lincoln and Hitler was based on Napoleon.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is one is the biggest stretch by far LMAO

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            [...]
            These have got to be some of the most moronic comparisons I've seen. Do people in academia take this shit seriously?

            At the time, you had to read Homer if you were to become literate.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/IlbmnrR.png

            >projecting
            Say something obviously moronic again and you will get the same response.

            https://i.imgur.com/ogWKXuh.png

            >Saying Christianity drew from Greco-Roman mythology just shows the mediocre intelligence of those who propound such theories as they cannot parse the obvious Second Temple Judaism and Hebraic OT context of the milieu from which Christianity emerged.
            Lol

            These have got to be some of the most moronic comparisons I've seen. Do people in academia take this shit seriously?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Academia propounds a lot of dumb shit, but this in particular they do not take too seriously. You have to show actual literary dependence and borrowing to establish influence, not simply point to similarities in a vague manner.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > You have to show actual literary dependence and borrowing to establish influence, not simply point to similarities in a vague manner.
            You'd think that mythicists would've learned their lesson after Zeitgeist and Caesar's Messiah, but apparently no.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Rejoice greatly, Daughter Zion! Shout, Daughter Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and victorious, lowly and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey. (Zechariah 9:9)

            It's a clear instance of fulfilling a prophecy lol

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Jesus' disciple Peter follows the Sanhedrin into their courtyard where he renounces Jesus. He does not flee per se. Pilate is not a divine being foreordaining a judgement, he is reluctant administrator seeking to propitiate a rebellious region. The comparison between Achilles and Hector exchanging insults with Jesus' being humiliated after a punishment is profoundly fricking funny and among the most embarrassing instance of the author reaching up his ass to force the Markan narrative into a Greco-Roman mold.

          And now for the most embarrasing part in this comparison: Jesus was not complaining that God had abandoned Him, He was quoting Psalm 22 to indicate that He had fulfilled a prophesy, especially about His hands being pierced and His clothes being divided. His tormentors say that He is calling to Elijah to indicate that they are illiterate of the Scriptures and incapable of seeing how Jesus fulfills them, just like the entirety of the Gospel narratives -- completely different from the Homeric narrative. Clear instance of someone who has no background in the Old Testament context of the Gospels.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's okay. You're an idiot full of hot air. We understand.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Uh oh, someone's angry his favourite charlattan got debunked

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing was debunked.
            Christianity borrowed both from Greco-Roman mythology and the Old Testament. These things aren't mutually exclusive. Please don't act so stupid in my presence ever again.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Christianity borrowed little to nothing from Greco-Roman mythology. Next time, don't quote from someone moronic enough to not understand that the Roman soldier who witnesses Jesus' death came to BELIEVE that Jesus was the Son of God. He wasn't mocking him at all lmao. I'm sure someone with basic reading comprehension is a VERY trustworthy source.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Christianity borrowed little to nothing from Greco-Roman mythology.
            Keep coping

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're legitimately so moronic you might actually be Derek from MythVision himself.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Keep coping

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not much cope required about insubstantive crap

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/dn9OLi0.png

            Keep coping

            Source for these books?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dennis R. MacDonald
            Mythologizing Jesus

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Christ's proclaiming a coming kingdom of God on Earth that will be a universal one is tied to Old Testament prophesies about the coming Messiah. A few examples:

      [...] so that your ways may be known on earth, your salvation among all nations. May the peoples praise you, God; may all the peoples praise you. May the nations be glad and sing for joy, for you rule the peoples with equity and guide the nations of the earth. May the peoples praise you, God; may all the peoples praise you. (Psalm 67 [LXX 66]:2-5)
      May his name endure forever; may it continue as long as the sun. Then all nations will be blessed through him, and they will call him blessed. (Psalm 72 [LXX 71]:17)
      All the nations you have made will come and worship before you, Lord; they will bring glory to your name. (Psalm 86 [LXX 85]:9)
      Declare his glory among the nations, his marvelous deeds among all peoples. [...] Ascribe to the Lord, all you families of nations, ascribe to the Lord glory and strength. (Psalm 96 [LXX 95]:3 and 7)
      The heavens proclaim his righteousness, and all peoples see his glory. (Psalm 97 [LXX 96]:6)
      Shout for joy to the Lord, all the earth. (Psalm 100 [LXX 99]:1)
      Give praise to the Lord, proclaim his name; make known among the nations what he has done. (Psalm 105 [LXX 104]:1)
      I will praise you, Lord, among the nations; I will sing of you among the peoples. (Psalm 108 [LXX 107]:3)
      Praise the Lord, all you nations; extol him, all you peoples. (Psalm 117 [LXX 116]:1)
      Nations will come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your dawn. (Isaiah 60:3)
      Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the temple of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.” The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. (Isaiah 2:3)

      And so on and so forth.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's all schizophrenic
    There is no intermediator, there is only repentance to God

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dont you see anon, this is what love is. You tell someone that if they don't love you, you will burn them alive for all time. And you say thank you.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Believe it or not, but there is not a single verse in the entire Bible that specifically calls the israelites or the tribe of Judah God’s chosen people. This misconception comes from the fact that the israelites of today have declared themselves to be Israel and not the house of Judah, as the Scriptures rightfully call them.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're only the same person when it's convenient

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hell isn't something God inflicts on people, nor is it a place he literally sends them. It's a state of being born from rejecting God, who is the essence of all things good. When you "sin", you stray away from the essence of goodness and harm yourself. Becoming closer to God entails distancing yourself from behaviors that are detrimental to you, both physically and spiritually. If you choose the path of "sin" you inevitably ruin yourself.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We cannot square hell as a non-spatial state of separation from God given Jesus has been there. It is quite clearly a place.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who's "we"? I don't hold to any tradition that says Jesus literally descended into hell.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Bible straight up says so.
          The only thing that is extra-biblical is the word “hell” itself with introduces a lot of Pagan baggage into Christian cosmology. But the Bible is clear. There is a place where the dead, righteous or not (at least before the resurrection of Christ), go and it is called Sheol/Hades. The Bible is also clear that Jesus has been there and there is a great range of verses in agreement on this.
          If the Bible describes anything as a non-spatial “state” of separation from God that is death itself. The Bible tells us if not for sin and the resultant separation from God we would all live forever.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't be spreading that around when it comes time for fundraising.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll refute it then. Hell is the absence of God (ie utter darkness, to be cast out from the light). God isn't going to force you to live in His presence, and so you'll be cast into utter darkness if you reject His will. Jesus offers us a chance to redeem ourselves with the Father through His sacrifice.

    There, refuted, now anything else to refute?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah now do "islam" which means "submit"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bruh, the stuff in Islam is just made-up. Don't worry about it.

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