New ancient DNA preprint from the Caucasus.

The Genetic History of the South Caucasus from the Bronze to the Early Middle Ages: 5000 years of genetic continuity despite high mobility: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.06.11.597880v1.full.pdf+html
Mainly from Eastern Georgia.
>Archaeological and archaeogenetic studies have highlighted the pivotal role of the Caucasus region throughout prehistory, serving as a central hub for cultural, technological, and linguistic innovations. However, despite its dynamic history, the critical area between the Greater and Lesser Caucasus mountain ranges, mainly corresponding to modern-day Georgia, has received limited attention. Here, we generated an ancient DNA time transect consisting of 219 individuals with genome-wide data from 47 sites in this region, supplemented by 97 new radiocarbon dates. Spanning from the Early Bronze Age 5000 years ago to the so-called "Migration Period" that followed the fall of the Western Roman Empire, we document a largely persisting local gene pool that continuously assimilated migrants from Anatolia/Levant and the populations of the adjacent Eurasian steppe. More specifically, we observe these admixture events as early as the Middle Bronze Age. Starting with Late Antiquity (late first century AD), we also detect an increasing number of individuals with more southern ancestry, more frequently associated with urban centers - landmarks of the early Christianization in eastern Georgia. Finally, in the Early Medieval Period starting 400 AD, we observe genetic outlier individuals with ancestry from the Central Eurasian steppe, with artificial cranial deformations (ACD) in several cases. At the same time, we reveal that many individuals with ACD descended from native South Caucasus groups, indicating that the local population likely adopted this cultural practice.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PCAs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Muh PCA clusters
      You either belong to one Ydna cluster and from that will determine what tents you encamp with

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As a Georgian, I wish I were born in Switzerland or Norway.
    There's so much shit wrong with this region and its fricking people, it's insane.
    We're too European for Asia, but not European enough for Europe proper.

    Interesting study, albeitever.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure it gets better.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >We're too European for Asia, but not European enough for Europe proper.
      the Medbug experience

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seething pajeet.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Summarize

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it really that hard to read the abstract I posted?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stable population structure in Eastern Georgia since the Bronze Age, with some outliers from the Levant, Anatolia, the central Eurasian steppes and Eastern Europe in Late Antiquity/Medieval times.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Our israeli king imported kipchaks

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you, don't get me wrong, I have problems reading and writing... I literally have a different type of TDH

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So, the IE lost in the caucasus?
            Good.. i always love when they lost, it's make me happy=0

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if they didn't find any new CLV samples, what's the point of this study anyway?

            Cope

            So, the IE lost in the caucasus?
            Good.. i always love when they lost, it's make me happy=0

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes? Do you wanna a gift Mr. Obvious? We already know that they were/are basically iran_N+CHG lol
            You aren't so smart as you think

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How does that contradict what I said?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s not so important to me that IE lost in the Caucasus in BA because most of the Caucasus now belongs to IE (Russians).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            not genetically or culturally.
            The IE (Egomania incels) lost in Anatolia, the Caucasus, the near east, central Asia and much of the Balkans and southern Europe. Assyria did more than them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the greatest MENA people (Persians) still speak IE, in addition Iranjeets and especially south Asia have a noticeable genetic contribution of IE.
            btw, I consider the Eastern Slavs to be the legitimate and completely legitimate owners of the North Caucasus, I personally have as much as 15% of CHG.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They had some Aryan lineages so I don't know if it was a complete defeat. they lost? yes but not that much
            T: Armenian

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ops
            My source

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they are less r1b than the Basques
            big shit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes you moron
            That's why I said ***some*** and I have no intention of wanting to be white or European. It has been known for years that, although its influence was not as high as in other places, it existed and can be seen even in genetics.
            Stop being sick dude.. the OP is saying something interesting and you're just cursing everyone like a woman. Fu c k 0ff junior

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Their r1b is in regions that were historically populated by armenians that got assimilated.
            Georgians often hold the opinion that east and south Georgia are just assimilated Armenians and udis. You can find them openly claiming it here.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Georgians often hold the opinion that east and south Georgia are just assimilated Armenians and udis. You can find them openly claiming it here.
            Name 1 example with tbharchive

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9094659/#9096240

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Armenians are a historically Mesopotamian population, the claim that eastern Georgia was ever inhabited by them is more comical than delusional, your average eastern armenian(who is way more Caucasus shifted than an average medieval, Classical Armenian or even a modern Western Armenian) is still closer to an Assyrian, Lebanese or a mountain israelite than they are to even the most MENA shifted Georgians from kakheti or southern Kartli

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not denying that, but only armenians and Assyrians in the region report a high r1b. It's not exhibited in Georgians avd jts observed in those two specific locations.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Trialeti-Vanadzor culture included parts of modern Eastern Georgia.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are there samples from this culture? They were supposed to be Indo-Europeans. In the earlier study there was one sample with plenty of steppe and I2a.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >However, it was only during the Middle/Late Bronze Age that Eastern hunter-gatherer ancestry became entrenched in Armenia, at least for a while, forming an “enclave” of steppe influence in West Asia that eventually dissipated during the 1st millennium BCE. This period of relatively high-steppe ancestry corresponds to the “Lchashen-Metsamor” culture of the Bronze-to-Iron Age (1). Linkage disequilibrium dating of steppe admixture (Fig. 5F) in our extensive set of individuals of average late 2nd millennium BCE date suggests it occurred a millennium and a half earlier, at the middle of the 3rd millennium BCE, and thus in parallel to the transformation of mainland Europe and the Balkans. In Armenia itself, the mid-3rd millennium BCE corresponds to the demise of the Kura-Araxes culture and its succession by the “Early Kurgan” culture, followed during the end of that millennium by the “Trialeti-Vanadzor” complex from which an individual from Tavshut (2127 to 1900 calBCE) already has the ~10% Eastern hunter-gatherer ancestry of the Lchashen-Metsamor population, the first documented steppe descendant in Armenia two millennia after the Chalcolithic. The analysis of Y chromosomes to which we now turn provides an independent line of evidence for a link between the Yamnaya and populations of Armenia after this 3rd millennium BCE reappearance of Eastern hunter-gatherer ancestry.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, that's the old study. Some samples in this one seems to be from Trialeti too.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Non-ie

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I2a? Lol what the frick?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            btw, many maps mark a noticeable spot of this Slavoid sperm somewhere in eastern Turkey.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            These samples are form the Bronze Age, Slavs expanded in the Middle Ages

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, Slavic I2 sat somewhere on the territory of Belarus until the Middle Ages. however, I suspect that they have common roots in the Dniper-Donets culture, which lived in the steppe and was either absorbed by the Yamnaya expansion or participated in its ethnogenesis.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Closest matches to Slavic I2 are found out west, by the Rhine in particular but we're talking modern branches. The oldest ancient DNA match is from Bronze Age Croatia.
            So basically, an EEF lineage got lucky.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's I2c/I2a2, the same type as in BA/IA Armenia

            lol why is bioRxiv so buggy lately?

            I don't know. I can't access the paper but had the tables previously saved. Someone reposted the Y results in page 104 of the Stolarek paper thread on genarchivist if you're curious.

            The paper itself didn't have anything particularly interesting beyond:
            >They model the vast majority of samples with 3 way models involving Catacomb/Yamnaya, Kura Araxes, and Ikiztepe_ChL.
            >They find ~7% EHG in Kura Araxes as a set.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So much for muh CHG conquerors meme, their main haplogroups are r1b and I2a, fricking rape babies

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Didn't see that coming.

            It's I2c/I2a2, the same type as in BA/IA Armenia
            [...]
            I don't know. I can't access the paper but had the tables previously saved. Someone reposted the Y results in page 104 of the Stolarek paper thread on genarchivist if you're curious.

            The paper itself didn't have anything particularly interesting beyond:
            >They model the vast majority of samples with 3 way models involving Catacomb/Yamnaya, Kura Araxes, and Ikiztepe_ChL.
            >They find ~7% EHG in Kura Araxes as a set.

            Is that from a late WHG/ANF group or Yamnaya possibly?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its closest relatives are from Central Europe/the Balkans. Hard to say how exactly it ended up there.
            https://discover.familytreedna.com/y-dna/I-BY420/tree

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Interesting.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >HMA
            >EEHG is genocided
            TOTAL WHITEOID DEATH

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You chimp

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'd rather be a chimp than a corpse tbqh.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s not so important to me that IE lost in the Caucasus in BA because most of the Caucasus now belongs to IE (Russians).

            not genetically or culturally.
            The IE (Egomania incels) lost in Anatolia, the Caucasus, the near east, central Asia and much of the Balkans and southern Europe. Assyria did more than them.

            So, the IE lost in the caucasus?
            Good.. i always love when they lost, it's make me happy=0

            IE didn’t lose. There aren’t many samples from the Middle Ages, however going by modern sampling IE lineages have increased slightly since the initial incursion.
            Whites always win.
            Also CHG were as blue eyed as WHGs but had fairer skin.
            You brown subhumans erroneously consider CHG some ugly ape group like yourselves but ignore the data that proves they were tall, light eyed, fair skinned, and had Europoid facial structure.

            You browns have never won. Is it any surprise you are subhuman animals in the past as you are subhuman animals today

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Also CHG were as blue eyed as WHGs but had fairer skin.
            source on lighter eyes? as for skin, sure i`ll concede that out of all the groups of pre-historic west eurasia they were probably the fairest in terms of skin color.
            >had Europoid facial structure.
            This is debatable, they probably looked somewhat like kadyrov on the lighter side or topuria on the darker side. do you consider these people to have a "europid" look?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you mongols for genociding mongrels from tbilisi and restoring our genetic purity

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if they didn't find any new CLV samples, what's the point of this study anyway?

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol why is bioRxiv so buggy lately?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >more churka ooga booga ancient DNA
    Boooooring.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, the Trialeti samples are all G2a and J. So the I2 guy from the earlier study could've been an outlier.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      R1b and I2 shows up in Middle Bronze Age, but becomes dominant in Late Bronze Age and Iron Ages, then declines in Antiquity and Middle Ages.

      Early and Middle Bronze Age samples are mostly G2a and J1.

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