Nietzsche's "The Last Man"

>The last man, or the last race (German: Letzter Mensch), is a term used by the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche in Thus Spoke Zarathustra to describe the antithesis of his imagined superior being, the Übermensch, whose imminent appearance is heralded by Zarathustra. The last men are tired of life, take no risks, and seek only comfort and security.

>The last man's primary appearance is in "Zarathustra's Prologue." According to Nietzsche, the last man is the goal that modern society and Western civilization have apparently set for themselves. After having unsuccessfully attempted to get the populace to accept the Übermensch as the goal of society, Zarathustra confronts them with a goal so disgusting that he assumes that it will revolt them.[1] Zarathustra fails in this attempt, and instead of repelling and manipulating the populace into pursuing the goal of the Übermensch, the populace take Zarathustra literally and choose the "disgusting" goal of becoming the last men. This decision leaves Zarathustra disheartened and disappointed.

>The lives of the last men are pacifist and comfortable. There is no longer a distinction between ruler and ruled, strong over weak or supreme over the mediocre. Social conflict and challenges are minimized. Every individual lives equally and in "superficial" harmony. There are no original or flourishing social trends and ideas. Individuality and creativity are suppressed.

>Nietzsche warned that the society of the last man could be too barren and decadent to support the growth of healthy human life or great individuals. The last man is only possible by mankind having bred an apathetic person or ethnic group who are unable to dream, who are unwilling to take risks, and simply earn their living and keep warm. The society of the last man is antithetical to Nietzsche's theoretical will to power, the main driving force and ambition behind human nature, according to Nietzsche, as well as all other life in the universe.

>The last man, Nietzsche predicted, would be one response to the problem of nihilism. But the full implications of the death of God had yet to unfold: "The event itself is far too great, too distant, too remote from the multitude's capacity for comprehension even for the tidings of it to be thought of as having arrived as yet."

are we the last men?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If he still revolts you you're not all the way to the end but we keep boiling frogs and pretending they'll live.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >are we the last men?
    If you are white. Yes.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The lives of the last men are pacifist and comfortable
    Only in Europe and even there you can argue it's not.
    >There is no longer a distinction between ruler and ruled
    Bullshit, try to sue Gates or Bezos, or any other capitalist bonza, you'll see "no distinction" in action, lol.
    >Social conflict and challenges are minimized
    Never was, never is, never will be. Smashing your neighbour with bronze axe is NOT the way to live btw.
    > Individuality and creativity are suppressed.
    On contrary, being "urself", being "creative" is almost mandotory in late capitalism.
    So, frick the mustache guy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Completely delusional and exactly what the walrus man was talking about. You actually celebrate your own decay. No hint of revolt just an enthusiastic yes please.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No hint of revolt just an enthusiastic yes please
        Nice strawman, b***h.

        Superficial.

        Quality response for sure.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Superficial.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bullshit, try to sue Gates or Bezos, or any other capitalist bonza, you'll see "no distinction" in action, lol.
      Tranitors deleted a thread that shows exactly what Nietzsche meant by this https://warosu.org/lit/thread/23445717
      In any other era of history, there was high culture for the elite and low culture for the proles. Ours is the only where our leaders consume the same slop as the commoners. I would sleep better knowing that they're out playing a highly codified and ridiculous game of keep-up that takes a lifetime to memorise the intricates of.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Biggest cope post I've seen on lit this week lmao.

      The rest of your points are already BTFO but I'll wreck your coping ass a little more on this one:

      >On contrary, being "urself", being "creative" is almost mandotory in late capitalism.

      You think that posting pics of what you ate on Telegram or your fricking cat or dog on Instagram makes you creative? Holy cope lmfao. One of the illustrators for Godzilla Zero and its manga is now selling hand drawn coasters shilling on social media just to get by. Creativity is completely dead and its all memes now.

      Amazing how filtered you are by "the mustache guy" (another cope by you, a worthless last man drone).

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yep. that's a bandwagon fallacy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >On contrary, being "urself", being "creative" is almost mandotory in late capitalism.
      kek is this a bait? your average mandatory creative "content creator" in youtube is a low iq drooling tard

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not quite, but to this extent: the people who envision that kind of life as the good to be sought for man are still passionately fighting and struggling for it, and that approach would be precisely what disappears when the Last Men rule.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a last man and I'm not apologizing for it. Nietzscheans can kvetch all they want.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In fairness iirc Nietzsche does make mention of entertainment itself becoming too much of a burden/harrowing endeavor so we may not be at the actual last man phase just yet but I would say we are pretty close, maybe a 3rd from the last man type of scenario, or possibly a 2nd to last man type of scenario would actually be closer to the mark. The previous barometric indicators are evaporating so you may actually be closer to the mark than I am, perhaps entertainment is already a burden to society at large and I am out of the loop so to speak due to circumstances. The usual tried and true Nietzschean remedy to the agreeable amount of poison does implicitly contain a notion of tolerance to the poison itself.

    >'We have invented happiness.' Say the last men, and they blink.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah that's me. Ask me anything.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is so fricking low effort. No commentary or opinions. Literally just a copy pasted Wikipedia article and "is we dem last menz?" I fricking hate you, OP. Read a fricking book.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think we are closer to Plato's Democratic Man.

    >Neither does he receive or let pass into the [mind] any true word of advice; if any one says to him that some pleasures are the satisfactions of good and noble desires, and others of evil desires, and that he ought to use and honour some and chastise and master the others –whenever this is repeated to him he shakes his head and says that they are all alike, and that one is as good as another.

    And

    >I mean that the father grows accustomed to descend to the level of his sons and to fear them, and the son is on a level with his father, he having no respect or reverence for either of his parents; and this is his freedom, and metic is equal with the citizen and the citizen with the metic, and the stranger is quite as good as either.

    And

    >And these are not the only evils, I said --there are several lesser ones: In such a state of society the master fears and flatters his scholars, and the scholars despise their masters and tutors; young and old are all alike; and the young man is on a level with the old, and is ready to compete with him in word or deed; and old men condescend to the young and are full of pleasantry and gaiety; they are loth to be thought morose and authoritative, and therefore they adopt the manners of the young.

    And

    >And above all, I said, and as the result of all, see how sensitive the citizens become; they chafe impatiently at the least touch of authority and at length, as you know, they cease to care even for the laws, written or unwritten; they will have no one over them.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Nietzsche's "last man" is remarkably relevant to our present times. "Health," which is nowadays considered an absolute value — almost a religion — was already "respected" by the last man. At the same time, he was also a hedonist. He had his "little pleasure for the day" and his "little pleasure for the night." In him, sense and longing have given way to pleasure and delight: "What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star? thus asks the Last Man and blinks." His long, healthy, yet uneventful life finally becomes unbearable to him, and so he turns to drugs, and in the end is killed by drugs: "A little poison now and then: that produces pleasant dreams. And a lot of poison at last, for a pleasant death." He seeks to extend his life to infinity through a rigorous politics of health, yet it is paradoxically cut short even before his time has come. Instead of dying, he comes to an end in non-time. Whoever cannot die at the right time must perish in non-time.

    >Against perishing in non-time, Zarathustra invokes an altogether different kind of death: "Many die too late and some die too early. Still the doctrine sounds strange: 'Die at the right time.' Die at the right time: thus Zarathustra teaches. To be sure, he who never lived at the right time could hardly die at the right time!" We humans have altogether lost the sense of the right time. The right time gives way to non-time. Death, too, comes in non-time, like a thief: "But equally hateful to the fighter as to the victor is your grinning death, which comes creeping up like a thief — and yet comes as a master." It is not possible to fit a freedom unto death within life itself. As opposed to death as a perishing in non-time, what Nietzsche has in mind is a "consummating death" which actively shapes life itself. Against those "rope-makers" weaving their long lives, Zarathustra expounds his doctrine of a free death: "I shall show you the consummating death, which shall be a spur and a promise to the living."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can take a Korean off the peninsula, but you can't implant a soul in one.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        t.tranime watcher

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >are we the last men?
    How could we possibly not be? We've tried everything, every possible lifestyle is a remixing of dusty memes now. That's why everything can only be done ironically, which means everything can only be done as a larp; even if someone were to start a bloody revolution or a world war, it would be a desperate attempt to power up an inert history, action for its own sake, and in giving an order to, say, kill 1000 civilians for some greater good, the men involved couldn't possibly avoid a tinge of hipsterish irony, because we've been there, done that, and they would know it.

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