>no one will ever need more than 8gb ram. >t.

>no one will ever need more than 8gb ram
>t. time wiener
was he right?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >$200 for 256gb soldered storage
    l m a o

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you are silly OP, the people who need more usually have a dedicated workstation they connect to. 8gb really is all you need, 4gb really is more than enough. The macbook air is just a really nice SSH client and interface for locally hosted web apps

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The macbook air is just a really nice SSH client
      $1300 for an ssh client is ridiculous.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >$1300 for an ssh client is ridiculous.
        every apple product is ridiculous, assuming it wasn't from the start was a fault of your own. Apple is a luxury brand and so it's a really nice SSH client, an albeit expensive one. I have a m1 mac mini exclusively just for managing debian workstations

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          homie you could have saved yourself a lot of money and used a Raspberry Pi with a tiler for that

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I have many raspberry pis, from the zero 2W to rpi5. they're nice machines to use without a screen, not as a desktop daily driver. Rpi5 is getting there but not yet. There's a lot of little things that apple does just right and with the mac mini, the price is justified like safari, peripherals like the magic keyboard and magic mouse, airpods. The mac mini is the best desktop but a desktop is just a something you use to connect to your real workstation and so as long as the software is good for connecting to other things, that's all I care for. I think the macbook air is overpriced, you get a better deal getting the m1 macbook air on Amazon or getting a certified refurbished machine directly from apple
            https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Apple is a luxury brand

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so it's just a premium thin client

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cope of EPIC proportions.... Delusion of unprecedented magnitude... So lucky I wasn't born a macgay, Mohamed or jeet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >8gb really is all you need
      Holy shit the cope-o-meter is off the charts with this one

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >4gb really is more than enough
      no
      but I agree that 8gb is enough for most programming
      the exceptions are things that have to be done locally like xcode and android studio because the tools are unoptimized bulky garbage
      even game dev is fine on 8gb if it's not AAA unreal engine

      note for moronos: 8gb mac RAM != 8gb windows RAM

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i rather buy a steam deck

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >8GB RAM
    >cuked hardware
    >hw lockwd everything

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    iToddlers btfo

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA1111111!!!!!1111

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  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i'm using 25G ram right now and not even doing that much
    in fact i'd be using more but i only have 32G ram so i'm stuck running only 3 instances of the thing i'm doing, which is only using 60% of my cpu
    i can't believe someone would spend US$1,300+ on something with 8G of ram and 256G of storage, in $currentYear at least, maybe if it was 2012 that'd make more sense

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This product's target market were the same idiots who defended iPhone's 16gb storage back in the day. I'm sure they also bought the 8gb variant of the iphone 4.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    imagine starting work and your boss asks you to build the project
    "Sorry I can't I'm getting OOM errors"

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No one should need more than 8gb of RAM
    Unfortunately optimization is a lost art and everyone is using bloated frameworks so 16gb of ram is barely passable right now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, 32GB RAM allows me to run ~40 tabs + Docker + Spotify + Discord + VSCode and have enough space to play Apex Legends.
      Sorry boomer, but more RAM allows me to zoom zoom.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        PS: I run 5 containers at a time in Docker (database + server + utils).

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    my mbp has 32gb

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's not RAM.
    It's _unified memory_

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      which is even worse for capacity, since it means that's your main ram AND your vram

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Normies who buy macbook air unironically will do fine with 8GB because the swap is so fast on these models.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    8 GB still functions well enough for office suite. I'm not really quaking in my boots over the prospects for my x1 yoga gen 6 with its 16 GB of RAM. It will still be useful for as long as the T61p it replaced.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >8 notched cores

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    8gb is too little for serious work

    My Android studio is taking 9gb right now

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    8gb already isn't enough now.
    My work MBP has 16GB and Safari decided to kill tabs when I was moving from one meeting room to another. Utterly ridiculous.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >buying fanless shite with 30+ WATT TDP

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    8gb ram is sufficient on MacBooks. I daily a Mac mini with 8gb of ram and it rarely uses it swap. it only uses swap when I have freetube, safari + couple tabs, one note, photoshop and mail applications all open at once. Otherwise it's very good at handling memory.
    16gb is for media creation/big projects and longevity

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >16gb is for media creation/big projects and longevity
      But what if you wanted to do that all of a sudden, would you buy a new computer just for that? You realise that for many people living in poorer countries that you may need to work for many months in order to buy a new computer, right? You already paid a frickton of money for the Mac and now you’re fricked because they didn’t just add the 16GB. At those prices every single one of their Macs should come with at least 16GB.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        with RAM, you buy as much as you can afford in your budget.
        its a double edged sword with Macs, since you can't upgrade them yourself but their re-sell values are great. I like to assume the ram is so expensive to upgrade due to the fact it's unified therefore a component of the cpu/gpu and nowhere near soldered memory (as a seperate component) but Apple be apple, they flog stupid prices for their storage too, which you can accommodate with e-sdds.
        My go to has been buy what I can afford without breaking bank, then if I need to upgrade, sell it on eBay, get a buyer, then upgrade. Sure you lose ~100 bucks net overall but its better than wasting money on a RAM upgrade you will never use
        Also I don't think its wise for people in less well-off places to buy apple products as its the peak of grubby corporatism

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Apple’s RAM has always been overpriced, even when you could upgrade it yourself. Most SMART people would just buy an aftermarket kit.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only reason as for why they put in so little is that iCattle will purchase a new $1000+ iChromebook within 2-3 years.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    RAM sharing is better on macos. Windows has LOADS of libraries from 30 years of application development in 32 and 64bit forms. So any random app could be in any combination of those, necessitating loads of allocated memory. On macs all the old stuff is deprecated which pisses people off, but it means everything is using the much smaller subset of libraries and sharing the code. Also the ObjC method of doing things means that a program compiled for 10.10 doesn't need Cocoa 10.10 to run the way it does in windows. ObjC doesn't call functions with baked in call methods, it passes messages, which means that even if the underlying library changes with different parameters, modified classes, etc. the method can still work. So even two programs 5 years apart can share the same loaded shared library code.
    Also, M3 macs fix the integrated RAM sharing problem. If you want to draw something on screen you need to get it from system RAM to GPU RAM even if it's shared RAM. This has always meant duplication. The M3s allow the GPU to use the exact same page without copying.

    Does this mean 8GB is enough? No. But you asked what makes macos memory management better and that's just one example. There's other stuff like how compression has been on for decades on os x whereas windows had it as a default off until very recently.

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