Northern Spain

Historically, what happens in this part of the Iberian Peninsula?

Why are they such chads?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's an Asturian phrase than says "Asturies is Spain/Europe and the rest is conquered land"

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Basque is a made up language

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, Basque doesn't behave like a creole or a code. It doesn't have IndoEuropean rules. If it was made up, it was made up before the Bell Beaker culture got there.
      Compare Haitian. THAT might count as a made up language. The people who made it up, from French words, were West African.
      Which reminds me. Do people still think Welsh is a creole of a preBritish language which relexified itself with Celtic and Latin loanwords? Or is it provably Celtic now?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hard cope

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    still too brown to be considered human, the pyrenees are the great filter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      people on either side of the pyrenees are pretty much the same
      there's some river whose name i forgot in france which does separate wops from normal europeans

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Loire. North/East are white Germanics, South/West are brown Moorberians.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          too far north

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Literally the same latitude as Northern Italy and the Balkans

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Historically, what happens in this part of the Iberian Peninsula?
    All modern iberians descend from them
    They systematically deported the people of the area they (re)conquered and resettled it with their own

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      white iberians got raped to extinction by moors, every single iberian today has Black and north african admixture

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's from unironically before roman times which is why it peaks in galicia and its strip of colonization (portugal)

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's from unironically before roman times
          coping moor rapebaby, multiple studies have dated the admixture pulse to Al Andalus

          >There is an axis of significant genetic differentiation along the east–west direction, in contrast to remarkable genetic similarity in the north–south direction. North African admixture, associated with the Islamic conquest, can be dated to the period between c. AD 860–1120

          >To distinguish between possible scenarios that could produce these patterns, we applied the GLOBETROTTER method to each of our six clusters (Methods). GLOBETROTTER infers dates of admixture and the make-up of the source populations, and tests whether admixture patterns are consistent with a simple mixing of two groups at a single time in the past, compared to more complex alternative models. GLOBETROTTER found strong evidence (p<0.01) of admixture for all six clusters.

          >For all six clusters, an extremely similar event was inferred, in a tight time-range of 860–1120 CE, and with similar source groups, present in varying proportions (4–10% for the minor group). The major source was inferred to contain almost exclusively European donor groups, and the minor source is made up of mainly north-west African donor groups, including Western Sahara, and to a lesser extent west Africans (YRI), consistent with the overall ancestry profiles.

          >The ‘Portugal-Andalucia’ cluster shows the greatest YRI contribution, and also shows some evidence of a second admixture date, with a more recent event involving only sub-Saharan-African-like and European-like source groups. This indicates a recent pulse of sub-Saharan African DNA, independent of the north African component.

          Stop trolling that's not true

          It is, all iberians today have Black admixture

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stop trolling that's not true

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not really. There still was a massive population of christian iberians (mozarabs) in the reconquered areas who were reabsorbed into Christendom. There was a big movement of northern iberians into the south to recolonize it indeed tho, but its not like most of the southern half population had disappeared.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but its not like most of the southern half population had disappeared
        It literally is. Modern day andalusians don't cluster with them. The only who are close to them are Canarians who have significant north african admixture through the guanches and even them aren't as far of the main iberian cluster

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wtf? Why is Asturias so isolated, almost as much as the basques? Thought they were in the same cluster as the castillians, galicians and leonese.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly I don't know.
            Maybe because they have less roman admixture

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, that makes sense. Gonna research further.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Asturias so isolated
            Celts

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No since they don't cluster with other celts

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wasnt andalusia recolonized by iberians from all over the peninsula? ? i think they should be a bit closer to the eastern iberians tbqh

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's less than 120 km between Burgos and Soria, and yet they are so far apart on this plot... What's the signal to noise ration on this?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Basques = GigaChads
    Asturians = Celts
    Southern Iberians = arab/carthaginensis

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t.moor rapebabby

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Basques and Asturians were the main ones who expelled the Moors and bleached the Roman mutts who were inhabiting the peninsula since the Roman period. Muslims conquered Roman mutts, not modern Iberians. Most Roman Iberians and Andalus Iberians were genetically the same.

    The ancestors of modern Iberians were living on the Cantabrian Mountains at the time of the Arab invasion.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's the crispy mountain air

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mortugal

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        least european people ın europe, nothing new, funny how turkiye gets lumped with MENA bc of their geography white moortuguese nafris get to be called european bc of their geographie

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hello Pierre

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mountain iberiBlack folk

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